Spotify pays us $0.003 cents per stream when someone listens to one of our songs. 3 tenths of a cent. They make a fortune by paying such a small amount to the creators of the music. So yeah, I guess they're losing so much money to Apple's fees and that's a crime. If Apple charged less, would Spotify pass the savings on to the artists they exploit? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
"As it turns out, Spotify is mostly not subject to Apple's 30% commission either. After the first year of a subscription, Apple's fees drop to 15%."
oh.
Well that seems more than fair.
And while we're on the topic of complaining: Hey Spotify how about paying an actual user interface designer to clean up the train wreck that is your interface no matter what you're trying to do??
The Romans already said 2000 years ago:" De gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum": I find the Spotify UI better than the Apple Music UI.
So do I. So do many people. I prefer more information on screen to big, colorful images everywhere. Plus, Spotify have had Crossfade and collaborative playlists for years, while Apple Music just added them today.
But God are they a bunch of whiny little babies. Nobody even subscribes through the App Store anymore, and before that only a fraction of people did. Shut the f up and give us HomePod support already.
When Spotify hosts competitor apps on its own App Store, markets them, and pays for the data centers, the electric bill, and manpower, then they can talk about fees. Bet they’d change their tune real quick.
huge fan of Spotify, but this is stupid. Apple Pay’s big money to host these apps and the developers know this. Just to have a book in a bookstore, authors give up 50% of the sale. And that not counting if it’s through a major publisher. In that case, the author loses 90%. 30% is nothing. Apple is the bookstore and the publisher. Not only do they provide all of that, they create and continuously refine the tools/programming language with which developers make their apps. Considering Apple has the most successful App Store and an incredible platform, it seems they’re not even charging for access to their millions and millions of customers.
Weirdos crying about 30% have no idea what goes into running a successful App platform. Either that, or they do and they’re just scumbags trying to tear the whole thing down just so they can temporarily gain a few more Pennie’s.
"As it turns out, Spotify is mostly not subject to Apple's 30% commission either. After the first year of a subscription, Apple's fees drop to 15%."
oh.
Well that seems more than fair.
And while we're on the topic of complaining: Hey Spotify how about paying an actual user interface designer to clean up the train wreck that is your interface no matter what you're trying to do??
The Romans already said 2000 years ago:" De gustibus et coloribus non est disputandum": I find the Spotify UI better than the Apple Music UI.
It’s way better. Too bad Apple left the simplicity of iTunes behind when it went the Apple Music route. Jimmy Levine really messed that up. The new ui is better, but still nowhere near as dead simple and rock solid in terms of UX as iTunes was.
Spotify pays us $0.003 cents per stream when someone listens to one of our songs. 3 tenths of a cent. They make a fortune by paying such a small amount to the creators of the music. So yeah, I guess they're losing so much money to Apple's fees and that's a crime. If Apple charged less, would Spotify pass the savings on to the artists they exploit? ߤ㰟䣰藍ߤ㰟䣦lt;br>
For a musician that have songs available for streaming on a streaming service, you don't seem to know how you are paid and who is paying you for your streamed songs.
All the big music streaming services (Apple, Spotify, Amazon and Google) pays about the same percentage of their paid subscription revenue to the music industry. It comes to about 70% (60% for the artists royalties and 10%for the songwriters). From there, it is the music industry (labels and unions) that "pays" you. None of the big streaming services pays the artists directly, on a per stream basis. The music industry takes the 60% of subscription revenue they receive from the streamers each month and pays all the artists based on what percent of all their streamed songs were, out of all the streamed songs for that service, each month.
If an artist songs was .001% of all the songs streamed from a service for that month, the artist will receive .001% of the revenue that service paid the music industry that month. So 1000 streamed songs might be .001% of the total streamed songs one month and might only .00005% the next month because Taylor Swift came out with a new album that captured 10% on all the streams that month. If the subscription revenue did not increase significantly for the month, the payout to all the other artists takes a hit, while Swift gets 10% of the total revenue received. And then you have the fact that 1000 streamed songs on one service might be .001% of the streams and with another service, 1000 stream songs might be .0015% of their total streams. It is only after receiving what ever percent of the revenue they earned for the month, that an artist can come up with how much they earned per streamed songs They were never directly "paid" on a per stream basis, by any of the big music streaming service.
Now this is for paid subscription revenue. With ad supported stream songs, the pay out is much, much less as revenues from ads are far less than revenue from paid subscription. So for services like Spotify, Google and Amazon, who offer a free ad supported streaming service, their payout "per stream" are seen as less than that of Apple Music, (who don't have a free ad supported service), when those steams are entered into their mix.
They also point out the inconsistency in Apple's policies, where Apple's apps like Apple Music are not subject to the 30% commission, putting third-party developers and their customers at a disadvantage.
When you buy from Spotify through Apple's store, Apple gets 30% of the money. When you buy from Apple Music through Apple's store, Apple gets 100% of the money. This puts Spotify at a huge, unfair advantage. Spotify should be required to send 100% of its revenue to Apple, so it can play on a level field with Apple Music.
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Spotify speaks out againstwhinges about Apple's 30% commission fee -- again