EU tells Apple to open everything up to its rivals

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  • Reply 81 of 86
    spheric said:
    That was the ENTIRE POINT of the initial "European ECONOMIC Community" that became the EU. 

    OPENING UP these things. 

    Wrong wrong wrong lmao!  The EU was made to give greater economic power to a bunch of countries that are very very weak on their own.  In fact, if it wasn't for France and (mostly) Germany, the union would fall apart entirely.
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  • Reply 82 of 86
    Scot1 said:
    As a Canadian, while, I don’t support legislation to force Apple to open up their eco stream, make no mistake, the EU is as economically powerful as the United States. 
    No even close.  US in nearly twice the size of the EU economically.  And Facebook didn't even launch Threads in the EU indicating that the region may be losing it's relevance with the tech sector.
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  • Reply 83 of 86
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,800member
    dee_dee said:
    spheric said:
    That was the ENTIRE POINT of the initial "European ECONOMIC Community" that became the EU. 

    OPENING UP these things. 

    Wrong wrong wrong lmao!  The EU was made to give greater economic power to a bunch of countries that are very very weak on their own.  In fact, if it wasn't for France and (mostly) Germany, the union would fall apart entirely.
    I was talking about the EEC, the initial precursor to the EU. 

    One of major goals was to stop war between France and Germany from ever happening again, by tying central Europe together economically. And it was all about INTERNAL coöperation.

    External economic clout wasn't really on the table in the 1950s, when the EEC was founded — a number of the initial members still though they had empires at the time, and we all still had entire countries to rebuild. 

    You seem to have strong opinions about why the EU exists — they have nothing to do with the historical facts of its creation, though.
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  • Reply 84 of 86
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,800member
    dee_dee said:
    spheric said:
    “Check and mate”? ߘ⦡mp;nbsp;
    So the entire argument that destroyed your point never happened, or what?

    Let me spell it out, since it was apparently too many words, before; 

    I’m in the EU.
    I can order ANYTHING I WANT from outside of the EU. It’s allowed, and it’s always been possible, long before the EU. 

    It’s just EASIER to stay within the economic union. 

    I see your checkmate and raise you a full house. 
    I'm guessing english is not your first language, because none of that made any sense.  Full House?  You seem to know even less about poker than trade.  
    [rah-rah bullshit snipped]

    Royal Flush!  Hahaha you are as bad at poker as you are at EU protectionist trade laws!
    Yeah, I figured it might be an entirely too-subtle way of pointing out that you think you've "won" at a game nobody was playing anymore. 

    I do appreciate that you gloated over your own inability to grasp that subtlety and your supposedly superior language skills and game knowledge, without actually countering my argument. 

    That's one way to cede a point and still feel like you're "winning", I guess. 🥸

    Here, have a cookie: it's made in the EU. 
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  • Reply 85 of 86
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,800member
    dee_dee said:
    Scot1 said:
    As a Canadian, while, I don’t support legislation to force Apple to open up their eco stream, make no mistake, the EU is as economically powerful as the United States. 
    No even close.  US in nearly twice the size of the EU economically.  And Facebook didn't even launch Threads in the EU indicating that the region may be losing it's relevance with the tech sector.
    a) The actual GDP of Europe and the United States have been mentioned in this very thread. Read back and look them up. 

    b) Meta didn't launch Threads in the EU because we have data protection laws that we expect companies to follow. And they really found out the hard way, again and again and AGAIN, having got fined 
    265 million € https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/28/facebook-gdpr-penalty/
    405 million € https://techcrunch.com/2022/09/05/instagram-gdpr-fine-childrens-privacy/
    60 million € https://www.taylorwessing.com/en/insights-and-events/insights/2022/01/google-and-facebook-fined-by-cnil-over-cookie-consent
    17 million € https://techcrunch.com/2022/03/15/facebook-2018-breaches-dpc-decision/
    390 million € https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/04/facebook-instagram-gdpr-forced-consent-final-decisions/

    and 1.2 BILLION € https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/232106/meta-slapped-with-record-1-3-billion-fine-over-eu-us-data-transfers#latest

    so it really feels like they're not releasing Threads until they've worked out whether it's even POSSIBLE to run their data-sucking business model in compliance with Data Protection laws. 

    I don't think anyone outside of Meta is particularly bothered by their difficulties in understanding how laws work. 
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  • Reply 86 of 86
    Open iOS would be a feature making iPhone a whole lot better. How do you not see that? What EU is doing to regulate tech giants the best thing to happen anti-trust since pro-business libertarianism infected the USA.
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