Apple to double Indian iPhone production in 2024, says Ming-Chi Kuo

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Noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said Wednesday that Apple will double iPhone production in India through 2024.


Foxconn's iPhone manufacturing facility in Sriperumbudur, India



In recent years, India has emerged as a high-tech manufacturing and assembly hotspot as Apple and other businesses have sought to reduce overall dependency on China. The efforts have been further spurred by the Indian government's focus on developing local manufacturing and technology sectors.

A note from analyst Ming-Chi Kuo states Apple will double iPhone production in India through 2024. Multiple factors play into this development beyond Apple trying to decrease its reliance on China.

"In 2023, 12-14% of global iPhone shipments are made in India," he said. "If all goes well, the proportion of iPhones made in India will increase to 20-25% by 2024."

Kuo cited Foxconn's continued Indian manufacturing efforts and Indian conglomerate Tata Group's recent acquisition of Wistron's iPhone production lines in India as reasons for the change.

The Indian government recently announced Tata Group's acquisition of Wistron's iPhone production facilities, turning iPhone assembly over to an Indian business for the first time.

The $125 million transaction was announced over the summer and completed last week. Kuo said that the Tata deal will help Apple strengthen its relationship with the Indian government.

"This move will benefit future sales of iPhones and other products in India and is critical to Apple's growth over the next decade," Kuo added.

Another reason cited by Kuo the rapid Indian expansion of another Chinese Apple assembly partner, Luxshare. Luxshare has grown from making iPhone cables in 2011 to doubling its iPhone production in 2022, and soon will be putting together the Vision Pro for Apple. Luxshare chairperson Wang Laichun recently said that her firm is currently producing three of four iPhone 15 models.

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After threatening to throttle imports made by Apple and other companies over the summer, the Indian government dialed back its plans with a new program launched in November to more carefully account for them.

Deputy IT Minister Rajeev Chandrasekhar said the new program is part of an effort to reduce India's trade deficit with China and to ensure that only trusted hardware and systems are imported to the country.

Kuo sees Apple manufacturing partner Foxconn's production scale in its Zhengzhou and Taiyuan, China facilities as decreasing "by 35-45% and 75-85%, respectively," in 2024 as Foxconn turns to India and Apple spreads its bets with companies like Luxshare.

"Foxconn owns 75-80% of the iPhone production capacity in India," Kuo said in his note.

Kuo anticipates that Apple will begin development of a new iPhone model in India for the first time in 2024, beginning with the iPhone 17 -- a model not expected to publicly debut until the following year. The standard iPhone was chosen as the first model to be designed outside of China because it is seen as a low-risk device with a low difficulty design.

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  • Reply 1 of 8
    AppleZuluAppleZulu Posts: 2,011member
    "Noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo..."

    Noted for what, exactly? Let's remember Kuo's record from way back earlier this week.

    Apple announced an all-new M3-based MacBook Pro lineup on October 30, with the devices available starting on November 11. 

    Ming-Chi Kuo, the Apple supply-chain expert, up until six days before that announcement, was on record telling us this would not happen until next year. On October 18th, Kuo declared that there would be "no new products in 4Q23." Let that sink in for a minute. This isn't Kuo missing a minor product feature prediction. This is the guy who is supposed to be "better than most" at understanding Apple's supply-chain and making predictions about upcoming Apple products. Against that backdrop, we see Apple shipping an entire new suite of MacBook Pros to customers squarely in the 4Q23 bullseye. 

    So for once, instead of letting his last-minute corrections - after Apple made obvious pre-announcement hints - be what's counted towards Kuo's scorecard, let's remember that he got something really big totally and completely wrong. 

    The real question should be about whether Kuo is just that in the dark, or was this a stock manipulation gambit? Either way, it isn't good, and it shows Kuo to be an unreliable source. It is time to stop lacing reports of Kuo's pronouncements with superlatives telling us how great he is.
    edited November 2023 watto_cobraFileMakerFeller
  • Reply 2 of 8
    Wesley HilliardWesley Hilliard Posts: 190member, administrator, moderator, editor
    AppleZulu said:
    "Noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo..."

    Noted for what, exactly? Let's remember Kuo's record from way back earlier this week.

    The only real leakers in the game today are Gurman, Kuo, and a handful of social media anons. Kuo is noted as an analyst for years of quality reporting. Note that everyone changed their tune at the last minute before this event, not just Kuo.

    Apple clearly kept this under wraps better than previous releases. The reason it was easier to hide was the lack of form factor changes. Everything is identical except for the chips and a MacBook color.

    I'm not sure that "noted" is a superlative. It's accurate. He's a long time supply chain analyst of note and worth paying attention to. We're not just going to ignore him.

    And to quash that conspiracy theory, no, Kuo doesn't manipulate the stock market. Leave that to the professionals at CNBC. lol
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  • Reply 3 of 8
    While China’s Xi was criticising Foxconn on 2023.11.1 about paying too little tax and too little daily wages, do you still think Apple have years to move out at such a slow pace?
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  • Reply 4 of 8
    dewmedewme Posts: 5,376member
    The term “noted” only conveys recognition with something, not necessarily the quality of what the party is recognized for. It can go either way, famous or infamous, good or bad, etc. A quick search for “noted troll,” “noted idiot,” and "noted philanthropist" all yield plenty of results. Even “noted Apple fan” gets at least one hit.

  • Reply 5 of 8
    AppleZulu said:
    "Noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo..."

    Noted for what, exactly? Let's remember Kuo's record from way back earlier this week.

    Apple announced an all-new M3-based MacBook Pro lineup on October 30, with the devices available starting on November 11. 

    Ming-Chi Kuo, the Apple supply-chain expert, up until six days before that announcement, ewas on record telling us this would not happen until next year. On October 18th, Kuo declared that there would be "no new products in 4Q23." Let that sink in for a minute. This isn't Kuo missing a minor product feature prediction. This is the guy who is supposed to be "better than most" at understanding Apple's supply-chain and making predictions about upcoming Apple products. Against that backdrop, we see Apple shipping an entire new suite of MacBook Pros to customers squarely in the 4Q23 bullseye. 

    So for once, instead of letting his last-minute corrections - after Apple made obvious pre-announcement hints - be what's counted towards Kuo's scorecard, let's remember that he got something really big totally and completely wrong. 

    The real question should be about whether Kuo is just that in the dark, or was this a stock manipulation gambit? Either way, it isn't good, and it shows Kuo to be an unreliable source. It is time to stop lacing reports of Kuo's pronouncements with superlatives telling us how great he is.
    🤦‍♂️🙄
  • Reply 6 of 8
    AppleZuluAppleZulu Posts: 2,011member
    AppleZulu said:
    "Noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo..."

    Noted for what, exactly? Let's remember Kuo's record from way back earlier this week.

    The only real leakers in the game today are Gurman, Kuo, and a handful of social media anons. Kuo is noted as an analyst for years of quality reporting. Note that everyone changed their tune at the last minute before this event, not just Kuo.

    Apple clearly kept this under wraps better than previous releases. The reason it was easier to hide was the lack of form factor changes. Everything is identical except for the chips and a MacBook color.

    I'm not sure that "noted" is a superlative. It's accurate. He's a long time supply chain analyst of note and worth paying attention to. We're not just going to ignore him.

    And to quash that conspiracy theory, no, Kuo doesn't manipulate the stock market. Leave that to the professionals at CNBC. lol
    I wouldn't expect that you'd just ignore Kuo. You use the sources you can get. There's just this long history of Kuo citations routinely including language that's complimentary or otherwise promotes his reputation to the point that it seems either pointedly intentional or oddly habitual. That's not just here, but in other places as well. It doesn't seem like Gurman gets that treatment. Not that I think he should, either, it's just an observation that Kuo's frequently being specifically praised, and while he gets some things right, he also frequently revises predictions shortly before announcements, with the result being more compliments about how he's so highly accurate. It's just odd.
  • Reply 7 of 8
    AppleZulu said:
    "Noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo..."

    Noted for what, exactly? Let's remember Kuo's record from way back earlier this week.

    Apple announced an all-new M3-based MacBook Pro lineup on October 30, with the devices available starting on November 11. 

    Ming-Chi Kuo, the Apple supply-chain expert, up until six days before that announcement, was on record telling us this would not happen until next year. On October 18th, Kuo declared that there would be "no new products in 4Q23." Let that sink in for a minute. This isn't Kuo missing a minor product feature prediction. This is the guy who is supposed to be "better than most" at understanding Apple's supply-chain and making predictions about upcoming Apple products. Against that backdrop, we see Apple shipping an entire new suite of MacBook Pros to customers squarely in the 4Q23 bullseye. 

    So for once, instead of letting his last-minute corrections - after Apple made obvious pre-announcement hints - be what's counted towards Kuo's scorecard, let's remember that he got something really big totally and completely wrong. 

    The real question should be about whether Kuo is just that in the dark, or was this a stock manipulation gambit? Either way, it isn't good, and it shows Kuo to be an unreliable source. It is time to stop lacing reports of Kuo's pronouncements with superlatives telling us how great he is.
    🤦‍♂️🙄
  • Reply 8 of 8
    AppleZuluAppleZulu Posts: 2,011member
    AppleZulu said:
    "Noted analyst Ming-Chi Kuo..."

    Noted for what, exactly? Let's remember Kuo's record from way back earlier this week.

    Apple announced an all-new M3-based MacBook Pro lineup on October 30, with the devices available starting on November 11. 

    Ming-Chi Kuo, the Apple supply-chain expert, up until six days before that announcement, was on record telling us this would not happen until next year. On October 18th, Kuo declared that there would be "no new products in 4Q23." Let that sink in for a minute. This isn't Kuo missing a minor product feature prediction. This is the guy who is supposed to be "better than most" at understanding Apple's supply-chain and making predictions about upcoming Apple products. Against that backdrop, we see Apple shipping an entire new suite of MacBook Pros to customers squarely in the 4Q23 bullseye. 

    So for once, instead of letting his last-minute corrections - after Apple made obvious pre-announcement hints - be what's counted towards Kuo's scorecard, let's remember that he got something really big totally and completely wrong. 

    The real question should be about whether Kuo is just that in the dark, or was this a stock manipulation gambit? Either way, it isn't good, and it shows Kuo to be an unreliable source. It is time to stop lacing reports of Kuo's pronouncements with superlatives telling us how great he is.
    🤦‍♂️🙄
    😚
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