Some people want free services from Apple. Beeper, Epic, EU, etc. One possible solution is for Apple to start charging for its free services.
The Android users I know would gladly pay for an iMessage app that works on Android. But Apple has no interest in doing that, hence Beeper.
they can get iMessage. Simply by buying an iPhone. Pretty simple and without the shady stuff. Plus, they get a better OS, a better phone, better security, and an overrall happier experience.
Why would any company think it's okay to hijack proprietary technology from another company, let alone Apple?
I would ask if at first blush because it is better for the customer...?
As I recall Jobs saying to the effect that ~ to build the best computers they have to be profitable, to keep building better computers, however building a computer to be profitable will eventually fail... or something like that... Does that seem in line with this...?
The Beeper site sums it up well: www.beeper.com/cloud
Chat today is broken. We have 5-10+ different chat apps on our phones, each for a different set of contacts. There's no unified inbox or search. Our inbox is cluttered with one-time codes and spam.
So, we're fixing it. Beeper Cloud is a universal chat app. It’s a single app to chat with friends on 15 different chat networks. We’ve added chat superpowers that make it the best chat app on earth.
I have a ton of contacts that will never, ever, ever buy an iPhone (on walled garden principle), and I for one have no desire to ever embrace other message apps like What's App or the like...
Maybe this is the start of a universal solution - a message app 'for the rest of us'... ?
iMessage is the universal standard “for the rest of us.” Not Apple’s fault that some people strangely want to avoid their offering.
Why would any company think it's okay to hijack proprietary technology from another company, let alone Apple?
I would ask if at first blush because it is better for the customer...?
As I recall Jobs saying to the effect that ~ to build the best computers they have to be profitable, to keep building better computers, however building a computer to be profitable will eventually fail... or something like that... Does that seem in line with this...?
The Beeper site sums it up well: www.beeper.com/cloud
Chat today is broken. We have 5-10+ different chat apps on our phones, each for a different set of contacts. There's no unified inbox or search. Our inbox is cluttered with one-time codes and spam.
So, we're fixing it. Beeper Cloud is a universal chat app. It’s a single app to chat with friends on 15 different chat networks. We’ve added chat superpowers that make it the best chat app on earth.
I have a ton of contacts that will never, ever, ever buy an iPhone (on walled garden principle), and I for one have no desire to ever embrace other message apps like What's App or the like...
Maybe this is the start of a universal solution - a message app 'for the rest of us'... ?
iMessage is the universal standard “for the rest of us.” Not Apple’s fault that some people strangely want to avoid their offering.
Unless everyone uses an iPhone and every iPhone has IDP enabled, then iMessage is not private nor as secure as it could be. It becomes open to carrier snooping, "Others", and for authority demands for backed-up message contents. There are messaging services that by default are better protectors of your privacy than iMessage.
That said, if you are an iPhone owner, and don't have contacts you communicate with outside the fold, it's a pretty secure and private service, so I don't know why outside of the US market it's not looked on as favorably as some other messaging apps.
Some people want free services from Apple. Beeper, Epic, EU, etc. One possible solution is for Apple to start charging for its free services.
Until the EU bureaucrats declare it anticompetitive for Apple to charge for services on other devices that it offers for free on its own. Never mind, of course, that the cost is offset by the money Apple makes from you buying their devices.
But you have it backwards. If Apple were to charge for a service on other platforms, that they offer for free on theirs, the EU bureaucrats would declare that Apple is being anti-competitive ....... by offering the service for "free" on their own platform.
What I said was "Apple should start charging for its free services" you somehow interpreted that as "Apple should start charging non-Apple users for its free services." No, that's not what I meant at all.
I was not responding to your comment about how Apple should start charging for their 'free" services. I was responding to @rorschachai reply to your original comment.
Besides, if Apple were to start charging for their "free" services, what would prevent Apple device users from using a comparable free service. Why should Apple device users pay to use Apple Map, when Google Map is free. Why should they pay to use iMessage when WhatsApp is free. Why pay for iWorks when LibreOffice is free (not to mention Google Docs and Google Sheet.). Why should software developers develop for Apple devices, if they had to pay for Xcode and Swift. If Apple were to start charging for their services, they would have the difficult task of competing with the services that are "free", on Apple own platform.
Some people want free services from Apple. Beeper, Epic, EU, etc. One possible solution is for Apple to start charging for its free services.
The Android users I know would gladly pay for an iMessage app that works on Android. But Apple has no interest in doing that, hence Beeper.
they can get iMessage. Simply by buying an iPhone. Pretty simple and without the shady stuff. Plus, they get a better OS, a better phone, better security, and an overrall happier experience.
You're missing the point. Most people don't give a shit about iMessage. The problem is that in the U.S. group chats with mixed iPhone and Android users suck because iPhone users are too dumb or lazy (or both) to use a universal app like WhatsApp. Your opinion about iPhones being better is, well, your opinion. And you know what they say about opinions . . .
Some people want free services from Apple. Beeper, Epic, EU, etc. One possible solution is for Apple to start charging for its free services.
The Android users I know would gladly pay for an iMessage app that works on Android. But Apple has no interest in doing that, hence Beeper.
they can get iMessage. Simply by buying an iPhone. Pretty simple and without the shady stuff. Plus, they get a better OS, a better phone, better security, and an overrall happier experience.
They don't want an iPhone. They just want a better experience when messaging with iPhone users who are too lazy to use anything other than iMessage.
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That said, if you are an iPhone owner, and don't have contacts you communicate with outside the fold, it's a pretty secure and private service, so I don't know why outside of the US market it's not looked on as favorably as some other messaging apps.