Apple gets backlash from India after uncovering hacks on journalists

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  • Reply 21 of 31
    This is a terrible look for the Modi government. Sheer arrogance. 
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  • Reply 22 of 31
    India is well on its way to becoming a real dictatorship, cheering Russia for its war against Ukraine and even selling them huge amounts of arms and ammunition for this.
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  • Reply 23 of 31
    sreesree Posts: 153member
    India is well on its way to becoming a real dictatorship, cheering Russia for its war against Ukraine and even selling them huge amounts of arms and ammunition for this.
    delusional shit. India supports russia because they have been an all-weather friend unlike the US, and its defence is deeply dependent on russia. India doesn't sell arms to russia, russia sells to india
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  • Reply 24 of 31
    sreesree Posts: 153member
    chasm said:
    This has been a big story in Canada as well, with the government there openly saying India targeted a Sikh separatist living in Canada for (a successful) assassination.

    The Modi government is hopelessly corrupt and deserves to be overthrown. Hopefully this revelation, and an international tribunal looking into the separatist targeting in the US and Canada will be the straw that broke this camel’s back.
    Its not some "seperatist", he was a terrorist involved in terror attacks and running a huge international drugs trade. you know, like one guy called osama bin laden.... Canada has been harbouring terrorists targeting India for 3-4decades now. If Indian agencies were truly involved in a hit on that guy, I would be really proud of them. (It looks highly doubtful though, more likely it was the pakistani ISI cleaning house or a gangwar between those drug lords)
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  • Reply 25 of 31
    sreesree Posts: 153member
    Good for Apple and I hope they stand their ground no matter the consequences! Modi and his officials are criminals who have been committing massacres and genocides against minorities in India.
    By god the hate! Massacres and genocides? If anything it is the opposite. There hasn't been a single massacre or genocide in India. some riots - yes, one big one too. But if anything the modi govt has managed to stop decades of seperatist violence in many parts of India - from kashmir to the recent peace treaty with ULFA in assam. This stupid george soros funded narrative building against a democratically elected leader has to stop. 


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  • Reply 26 of 31
    sreesree Posts: 153member

    y2an said:
    It’s telling that the government took “state sponsored” attackers to mean Indian state. Whoops. 
    The govt. took nothing. The opposition started a huge campaign saying it was the govt. doing it, so the govt. had to call up apple and go through the process. Unlike the delusional shit you see on this forum, nothing was actually done other than asking Apple for explanations. There was also a certain pattern to the whole thing indicating a george soros type involvement. (to those unversed in the politics of India, the current opposition is funded by both china and soros. So, let that sink in a bit before you start blabbering about modi).

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  • Reply 27 of 31
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 2,943member
    Apple, be smart and don't behave the same as you can in USA as in other countries. But, if Apple continues to try to be hero against the government of countries where it's supply chain and assembly factories are located, I need to be smart and sell the Apple stocks soon.
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  • Reply 28 of 31
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 2,943member
    India is well on its way to becoming a real dictatorship, cheering Russia for its war against Ukraine and even selling them huge amounts of arms and ammunition for this.

    IMO, India needed a dictatorship for 2-3 decades similar to China's Mao when India freed itself from the British. That would allowed India from local politics, focused on right things. Like China, today India would be strong and independent of developing own advanced weapons to defend itself from foreign forces. Look at China after 2nd world war! Badly wounded China became strong, giving scare to rest of the world and care none to stand on it's own.
    India needs cheap Russian oil and weapons but in heart do not support Russian invasion to Ukraine.
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  • Reply 29 of 31
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,733member
    blastdoor said:
    Soon to be: India will pass a law making it a crime to report on such hacks.  Apple will, of course, comply with all local laws and regulations.
    Exactly. Apple is doing the right thing here because they can. As bad as the Indian government is (and it’s very bad), India is still more free and democratic than China. 

    Apple really needs to figure out how to manufacture products in more democratic countries. 
    I agree, but dictatorships provide cheaper labour, which is what Apple (i.e., its stockholders) really wants.
    Yup! Interesting, isn’t it, that Apple’s production model only works in countries run by dictators where people have no rights. That’s what I was referring to when I said they need to figure out how to manufacture products in democratic countries. They need to figure out how to profitably manufacture products without exploiting workers. 

    I actually think they are capable of doing that — it’s just that the profits will be lower than they are now. 
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  • Reply 30 of 31
    Its a fine line here.  Countries like India have need to protect against terrorism.  Any measures they are using should require discipline and allow their country to have proper protections, while not being oppressive to their citizens or to visitors, with proper safeguarding.
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  • Reply 31 of 31
    wood1208wood1208 Posts: 2,943member
    blastdoor said:
    blastdoor said:
    Soon to be: India will pass a law making it a crime to report on such hacks.  Apple will, of course, comply with all local laws and regulations.
    Exactly. Apple is doing the right thing here because they can. As bad as the Indian government is (and it’s very bad), India is still more free and democratic than China. 

    Apple really needs to figure out how to manufacture products in more democratic countries. 
    I agree, but dictatorships provide cheaper labour, which is what Apple (i.e., its stockholders) really wants.
    Yup! Interesting, isn’t it, that Apple’s production model only works in countries run by dictators where people have no rights. That’s what I was referring to when I said they need to figure out how to manufacture products in democratic countries. They need to figure out how to profitably manufacture products without exploiting workers. 

    I actually think they are capable of doing that — it’s just that the profits will be lower than they are now. 

    Apple should do what is right for it's investors, employees and users at large without getting into cross hairs of politics. Those having different opinions should help figure out where Apple should build products at lower cost to compete with those companies who has advantage of local cheap labor, government support with seed money and PR and you know I am talking about China's CCP/PRC and indirectly Huawei.
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