iPhone 15 isn't regarded as well as the iPhone 14 or iPhone 13 were

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Apple's shares have taken a big hit in 2024, with sentiment surrounding the iPhone 15 down compared to the iPhone 14 and iPhone 13 perhaps playing a part of it.

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Apple's start to 2024 hasn't been great for its shares, with a 6% drop in the first week, notes J.P. Morgan in a Monday note seen by AppleInsider. This reduction is apparently down to "building pessimism around a lack of momentum in iPhone sales."

Sentiment for the iPhone 15 is "a bit worse" than the iPhone 14 and iPhone 13, reckons the analysts, with the blame leveled at a re-emergence of Huawei in the important China marketplace.

For 2023, iPhone revenues declined 2% year-on-year according to the analysts, and it started weakly with an 8% iPhone revenue decline in the first quarter.

In 2024, there's a different setup, with Apple guiding to iPhone revenue growth for the first quarter. This is combined with JPM's "flat" iPhone revenue forecast embedding modest year-on-year declines from the second quarter.

Without discounting the competitive threat Huawei poses to Apple, JPM still believes Apple's rival will have a steady ramp, and that its impact is already being included in forecasts of limited iPhone revenue growth for 2024.

Even so, there should be iPhone revenue upside for the first quarter "to change the linearity of the de-rating" of Apple's shares. JPM expects a 25x multiple to be the floor valuation, with multiple years of iPhone revenue expectations "settling out in the flattish range."

However, while there's a recent increase in concerns around iPhone 15 momentum, JPM sees a "positive set up into earnings with supply chain feedback indicating robust C4Q23 iPhone units and only modest downside to C1Q24 iPhone units."

The supply chain apparently believes there to be 85 million iPhone unit builds in the fourth calendar quarter of 2023, with 48 million in the first quarter of 2024 pointing to unit sales in the high 70 million range for Q4 2023 against a consensus of 74 million units.

J.P. Morgan rates Apple as Overweight with a price target of $225.

JPM's comments follow after Piper Sandler downgraded Apple to "Neutral" over concerns of handset and macro weakness in 2024.



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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 5
    Like clockwork every post-holiday season. You guys can't help yourselves.
    muthuk_vanalingammagman1979mattinozdanoxwatto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 5
    magman1979magman1979 Posts: 1,293member
    This is the tech equivalent of a smut / smear piece, it's pathetic.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 5
    bonobobbonobob Posts: 383member
    Funny how mature markets don't have a lot of room for exponential growth.
    Alex1Nwatto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 5
    M68000M68000 Posts: 728member
    Does anybody find this really hard to believe?  There is an acceleration rate on objects that increases per second because of gravity.  It’s something like 9.8 meters a second per second.  A freefall from 16000 feet is no joke.  Could this be a made up story? I have cracked iphone screens from about 5 feet, can’t imagine what 16000 feet would do.
  • Reply 5 of 5
    ktappektappe Posts: 824member
    M68000 said:
    Does anybody find this really hard to believe?  There is an acceleration rate on objects that increases per second because of gravity.  It’s something like 9.8 meters a second per second.  A freefall from 16000 feet is no joke.  Could this be a made up story? I have cracked iphone screens from about 5 feet, can’t imagine what 16000 feet would do.

    I think you responded to the wrong story. But assuming you're talking about the iPhone that survived falling out of the Alaskan 737 MAX, it's believable because iPhones have large flat surfaces so their terminal velocity is not very high; probably less than 100MPH. As long as it landed on a soft surface (grass, leaves), it's totally possible for the iPhone to have sustained minimal damage.
    gatorguywatto_cobramuthuk_vanalingam
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