'Verifiably untrustworthy' Epic Games iOS app store plans in EU killed by Apple

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  • Reply 61 of 65
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,943moderator
    What has trust to do with it? Either you follow the rules within the laws or not. You can’t distrust preventively without them making a mistake with their new developer account – after all I can understand. 
    Would your logic apply to a pedophile applying for a job as a child care worker?  Past is prolog.  
    Except this isn’t not a pedophile applying for a job. Your comparison is not relevant legally speaking. 

    Also, even in your flawed comparison the person’s rights based on the past are relative. You cannot cancel someone for everything, for ever.  
    There are rights afforded to both parties.  Are you sure that Apple does NOT have the right to refuse to do business in the future with a party who breached a contract with them?  
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  • Reply 62 of 65
    radarthekatradarthekat Posts: 3,943moderator
    hmlongco said:

    Requiring a company not owned by the government to do business as the government demands is a hallmark of fascism.  Benito would be proud.

    Or the hallmark of one protecting its citizenry. The government demands fair treatment and wages for the company's employees. The government demands the company not utilize child labor. They demand that said company doesn't pollute the air we breathe and the water we drink.

    Those would be regulations applied evenly to all companies. What the EU has done here is to create special groupings in order to apply rules to specific companies that other companies in similar business are not held to.  
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    tmaytmay Posts: 6,470member
    hmlongco said:

    Requiring a company not owned by the government to do business as the government demands is a hallmark of fascism.  Benito would be proud.

    Or the hallmark of one protecting its citizenry. The government demands fair treatment and wages for the company's employees. The government demands the company not utilize child labor. They demand that said company doesn't pollute the air we breathe and the water we drink.

    Those would be regulations applied evenly to all companies. What the EU has done here is to create special groupings in order to apply rules to specific companies that other companies in similar business are not held to.  
    What seems apparent is that "gatekeeper", is specifically aligned with Big Tech"; all the other "gatekeepers" of lesser size in the lower orders, such as Spotify, as an example, are irrelevant. 
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  • Reply 64 of 65
    longfanglongfang Posts: 555member
    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    This doesn't look good for Apple on the face of it.

    Apple has the last word on 'trust'?

    I can't see that going down well in the EU. 

    I suppose Epic will accuse Apple of discrimination. 

    We'll see. 

    Does Epic has any "trust" left at all? Maybe the EU can guarantee to Apple that Apple will be fully supported by the EU, if Epic "breaks that trust".

    Oh, never mind.

    https://theconversation.com/ukraine-got-a-signed-commitment-in-1994-to-ensure-its-security-but-can-the-us-and-allies-stop-putins-aggression-now-173481

    Just words on a piece of paper, or worse, words in a cloud.
    The amount of trust is irrelevant. The question is if Apple has the last word here because Epic could well try to throw a discrimination card into the soup.

    Is this, for example, the same as the right of admission to a bar? 
    No shirt, no shoes, no trustworthiness, no service 
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