Spotify upset over 9 day App Review, cries antitrust to EC

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Ten years and a $2 billion fine later, Apple is still upsetting EU favorite Spotify but this time, because the company isn't making App Review for the company any faster than it is for other developers.

The Spotify app shows prices and links to its website
Spotify preps its app on iPhone for new EU rules



The biggest music streaming company on earth continues to cry antitrust after getting a free pass to do almost everything it ever wanted in the EU. Spotify has returned to the European Commission with a new complaint -- Apple isn't approving its app update fast enough.

According to The Verge, Spotify has written the EC stating Apple has "neither acknowledged nor responded to Spotify's submission." A ruling from the EC fined Apple $2 billion and ordered the company to stop its anti-steering practices.

Spotify submitted an update to Apple on March 5 with its new in-app subscription details and a link to its website. Nine days later, Spotify feels like Apple isn't communicating properly and may be delaying approving the app on purpose.

"It's been nine days now and we're still waiting to hear from Apple about our app submission to show EU consumers pricing and a link to our website, which we are now authorized to do by the European Commission's decision on the music streaming case," Spotify spokesperson Jeanne Moran said in a statement. "Apple's delay directly conflicts with their claim that they turn around reviews on app submissions within 24 hours, and it also flies in the face of the timeline for adoption the Commission laid out."

App Review has always been a bit of a black box, but going days or a couple of weeks without approval after submission isn't entirely unusual for nearly every developer. The delay could be caused by Apple taking extra care with this new EU requirement.

It also likely doesn't help that Apple's App Review team is dealing with one of the most significant changes ever to occur to iOS simultaneously. Complying with the Digital Markets Act requires extensive involvement from Apple alongside 600 new developer APIs and changes to iOS.

Also, it isn't as if Spotify stands to lose money by Apple delaying the inevitable.

Spotify hasn't allowed customers to sign up for its premium subscription in the app since 2016. Adding the ability to tell users to go to the website and subscribe to avoid a 30% fee is pointless when customers can't even subscribe in app.

Clearly, users don't have any issue finding Spotify Premium and subscribing. Spotify is the EU market leader with 56% share, while Apple Music is at 11%.

Spotify is a company like any other and can't force Apple to prioritize an app update. However, after all the special treatment from the EC, perhaps Spotify is a little spoiled and believes it can ask for anything and get it.



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  • Reply 1 of 13
    I wish the EU would make whining illegal. 
    nubusNickoTTwilliamlondonmacxpresswatto_cobrajony0
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  • Reply 2 of 13
    nubusnubus Posts: 759member
    EU proposed the legislation 4 years ago and it was signed in April 2022. It is hardly a surprise to Apple that Spotify would submit an app for review.

    And we all know the next steps:
    1. A politician (probably French or Belgian) will make a bombastic statement on X/Twitter on Friday, and Apple will then approve the app on Saturday.
    2. Someone here will complain that EU is communist, bureaucratic, and/or corrupt. Even though Apple is mainly getting their products manufactured in a "communist" country and on corruption the US is doing worse than 11 countries in EU... but the story is once again that EU is the worst thing ever.
    3. And someone will complain about the courts or the legislation or something else. This is mainly due to the use of common law in US/UK while EU is - like most of the world - isn't using common law.
    4. Stock owners will bleed again. 
    But at the core... why didn't Apple expect Spotify to submit an app?
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  • Reply 3 of 13
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,636member
    Ha Ha Ha......
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  • Reply 4 of 13
    nubus said:
    EU proposed the legislation 4 years ago and it was signed in April 2022. It is hardly a surprise to Apple that Spotify would submit an app for review.

    And we all know the next steps:
    1. A politician (probably French or Belgian) will make a bombastic statement on X/Twitter on Friday, and Apple will then approve the app on Saturday.
    2. Someone here will complain that EU is communist, bureaucratic, and/or corrupt. Even though Apple is mainly getting their products manufactured in a "communist" country and on corruption the US is doing worse than 11 countries in EU... but the story is once again that EU is the worst thing ever.
    3. And someone will complain about the courts or the legislation or something else. This is mainly due to the use of common law in US/UK while EU is - like most of the world - isn't using common law.
    4. Stock owners will bleed again. 
    But at the core... why didn't Apple expect Spotify to submit an app?
    You seem to not understand the situation. Yes Apple knew it was coming so why does whinie cry baby Spotify not understand that what the EU has done has made the problem worse for developers as Apple now has to adhere to a completely unthought out set of rules with each new app being released for the EU market.

    So not only does Apple have to check that your data isn’t being siphoned by crooks, these apps aren’t doing anything dodgy or illegal, aren’t going to introduce issues, aren’t going to break people’s phones, aren’t going to give easy access to pornography to minors, aren’t going to take photos of children in compromising situations and upload those to bad sites, etc etc etc, but now Apple has to make sure all of these checks are being done in such a way the EU is happy.

    If I was Apple, Spotify would be pushed to bottom of the priority list because at least small developers are prepared to pay their way on Apple’s platform.

    If Spotify want special priority they should develop their own AppStore and have to do all the work.
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  • Reply 5 of 13
    Did the EU stipulate how much time Apple is allowed to approve any apps or app updates?  No.  So stop whining about every little thing already — NOBODY GIVES A DAMN.
    teejay2012NickoTTstompywilliamlondonwatto_cobrajony0
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  • Reply 6 of 13
    Daniel Ek has the EU regulators on speed dial, and now even they are getting tired of Spotify constant whining.
    Like the old saying 'A watched app never gets approved.'
    williamlondonh2pwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 7 of 13
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,711member
    Hey everyone, check out my impersonation of Spotify and its top executives!

    WAAAAH!! WAH WAH WAAAAAAAAH!!!
    williamlondonwatto_cobrajony0
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  • Reply 8 of 13
    sflagelsflagel Posts: 873member
    So Spotify is working every angle to maximise returns to their investors, provide more competition, and push updates to their customers as quickly as possible; and most people in this forum side with the $3 Tn company that works every angle so that none of this happens? 
    edited March 2024
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  • Reply 9 of 13
    I wish the EU would make whining illegal. 
    To do that, they would have to outlaw themselves
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  • Reply 10 of 13
    davidwdavidw Posts: 2,148member
    sflagel said:
    So Spotify is working every angle to maximise returns to their investors, provide more competition, and push updates to their customers as quickly as possible; and most people in this forum side with the $3 Tn company that works every angle so that none of this happens? 

    Gee, I would think most Spotify users and investors would be more concern about when will Spotify catch up with its competitors when it comes to the audio quality of their streams. How long has it been since Spotify promised true lossless audio quality streams. Way more than 9 days.


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  • Reply 11 of 13
    Well, Apple announced that developers will be able to distribute apps directly from their website this spring. If Apple and the App Store are so terrible, Spotify can leave and utilize that option. Seems perfect for them. So who wants to bet they won’t? They want all the benefits of the App Store and Apple’s infrastructure without paying anything. Spotify is a leech.

    Apple should kick them off the store once that option is available.
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  • Reply 12 of 13
    sflagel said:
    So Spotify is working every angle to maximise returns to their investors, provide more competition, and push updates to their customers as quickly as possible; and most people in this forum side with the $3 Tn company that works every angle so that none of this happens? 
    And which of those updates provided features Spotify previous cried for like native HomePod support? API have been out for years now.
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  • Reply 13 of 13
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,711member
    sflagel said:
    So Spotify is working every angle to maximise returns to their investors, provide more competition, and push updates to their customers as quickly as possible; and most people in this forum side with the $3 Tn company that works every angle so that none of this happens? 
    1. Nope. Spotify still loses money after 20 years at this. Kind of remarkable, that.

    2. Nope. Spotify is the dominant music platform and seeks to cripple competitors, not encourage them.

    3. Nope. This is not a critical security update, and Apple is not taking an "extraordinary" amount of time with it. Feature updates always take more time to review, and Apple is currently flooded with EU updates.

    4. Nope. Apple is the one enabling competitors. I don't see Apple Music being offered on Spotify's web site ...

    In short, your claims are full of shite.
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