Apple's focus on local AI models and licensing LLMs could be a winning combo, says analyst...

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An analyst note suggests licensing Gemini from Google while developing proprietary private local models could give Apple an advantage in the AI race.

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Apple's AI push seems to have a two-pronged approach



It's no secret that Apple plans to make 2024 a big year for promoting AI technologies on its platforms. Recent reports have begun to give Apple's AI plans a shape, and they look similar to other strategies the company has employed in the past.

According to a JP Morgan note viewed by AppleInsider, Apple's potential partnership with an LLM provider while developing smaller local models may help it get ahead of other manufacturers. If the reports prove true, Apple will focus on its strengths, like on-device processing, instead of building a proprietary LLM.

A recent report suggested Apple was in talks with Google to license its Gemini LLM for iPhones. The report arrived just a day after Apple published a research paper on MM1, a smaller pre-trained model that could run locally on a user's iPhone.

These news stories are complimentary, not contradictory, and the JP Morgan note suggests Apple's two-pronged approach could give it a leg up. Apple can focus on smaller on-device models that protect user privacy rather than releasing a controversial LLM that relies on piles of data found on the web. Customers get the best of both.

If this sounds familiar, it's a lot like Apple's agreement with Google for search. Google gets to be the default search engine for the web, while Apple provides a powerful yet private local search tool called Spotlight.

More evidence corroborates Apple's plans with leaks about an internal tool called Ask that's trained on a local knowledge database. It was referred to as more adaptive than an LLM and flexible with database changes, things the MM1 model should be good for.

The note focuses on Apple's financial successes using this approach, suggesting infrastructure savings and better consumer experiences for applications. JP Morgan maintains its overweight rating for Apple with a price target of $215.



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  • Reply 1 of 6
    “Analysts, analysts, analysts…” read this aloud in Ballmer's monkey-jumping style.

    Apple —at least— is using in device machine learning from the original 2007's iPhone's keyboard.

    But wait… the analysts do not paid too much attention to that but… to the fact Apple… ‘seems to follow the herd’ of using server side AI!
    After 40 years of following its own way… to become the most valued company… to release the most successful product… analysts and financial advisors still think that ‘following the herd’ and ‘making big acquisitions’ is the way to success!

    williamlondonwatto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 6
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,308member
    Apple might be in a position where they have little choice but to license an LLM. So be it. But this is far from the best position they could have been in. Senior management made a bad bet and now they are playing catch up. That happens — nobody is perfect. And Apple has made enough good bets that they have the money to recover.

    But relying on others for a core technology is not a great idea long term. That’s why Apple has its own OS, compiler, language, silicon, retail stores, etc. 

    Apple needs to get to a point where they can train their own models on their own silicon, not licensing from people who pay Nvidia 70 percent margins on GPUs. 

    Unless of course Google gives them as good a deal on LLMs as on search. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 6
    nubusnubus Posts: 386member
    blastdoor said: 

    Unless of course Google gives them as good a deal on LLMs as on search. 
    I don't see how Apple and Google can make any deal due to the current US antitrust case against them for collaborating on Search. Their current deal kills competition on search. Only way would be for Alphabet/Google to sell Android, but the main reason for Android is to send customers to Google and make them part of the Google eco-system. No way Google will prefer a deal with Apple to full control. Same on OpenAI... will be rather difficult for Apple and MS to share tech due to their combined dominant positions on desktop.

    Perhaps Cook is doing some shopping on his current trip to China? The Chinese are strong on AI and Apple can get the Nvidia chips... it could work. 
    williamlondon
  • Reply 4 of 6
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    nubus said:
    blastdoor said: 

    Unless of course Google gives them as good a deal on LLMs as on search. 
    I don't see how Apple and Google can make any deal due to the current US antitrust case against them for collaborating on Search. Their current deal kills competition on search. Only way would be for Alphabet/Google to sell Android, but the main reason for Android is to send customers to Google and make them part of the Google eco-system. No way Google will prefer a deal with Apple to full control. Same on OpenAI... will be rather difficult for Apple and MS to share tech due to their combined dominant positions on desktop.

    Perhaps Cook is doing some shopping on his current trip to China? The Chinese are strong on AI and Apple can get the Nvidia chips... it could work. 
    Huh? if the report is accurate Apple is looking for a license, not a partner in a shared profit-making venture. Of course they can license Gemini if that's what Apple wants to do. As long as the license is worded appropriately it would then be Apple's to integrate and run on its own hardware.  Where it makes some sense is that Gemini will run on device just as it does now on Pixels, and not require off-loading "to the cloud".  Isn't that what Apple wants to do as well? 
    edited March 20
  • Reply 5 of 6
    auxioauxio Posts: 2,728member
    “Analysts, analysts, analysts…” read this aloud in Ballmer's monkey-jumping style.

    Apple —at least— is using in device machine learning from the original 2007's iPhone's keyboard.

    But wait… the analysts do not paid too much attention to that but… to the fact Apple… ‘seems to follow the herd’ of using server side AI!
    After 40 years of following its own way… to become the most valued company… to release the most successful product… analysts and financial advisors still think that ‘following the herd’ and ‘making big acquisitions’ is the way to success!
    The fundamental problem is that investors want perpetual growth in everything. It doesn't matter how big and successful you are in a product category, you must always grow.

    That's the reason they want server-side AI: it'd be a new service which Apple could then get people to pay more money for. As opposed to on-device AI, which is bundled with the existing hardware they sell and thus isn't a new revenue stream.

    With the way investment in technology has gone since the advent of online services (as opposed to hardware and software products), I tend to feel like it's at odds with human advancements (as measured by increased efficiency in performing tasks and/or being able to do new things). The one time sale of incredible hardware which elevates humanity just isn't as interesting to investors as the continual revenue stream from services designed to addict people to them.

    edited March 20 StrangeDaysgatorguy
  • Reply 6 of 6
    Most of us saw the fiasko release of googles Gemini. Tim Cook saw it and said... Thats exactly what we want! Go Woke Go Broke!   
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