And in breakthrough technologies in almost any field, Apple isn't even trying. I'm talking about problems that have been around for decades, like overcoming Shannon's limit (polar codes) or moving beyond Von Neumann architecture. That nut has been cracked too.
In Apple's top product category (phones), Huawei has been a, no, is THE leader in almost the entire set of tentpole phone features that have come to iPhone over the last seven years.
Who is knocking off who? LOL.
Wow. Apple spends billions on R&R annually, but they aren't even trying "in almost any field"? You make some interesting points, but then you took it to an absurd level.
No one is arguing that Apple is some sort of basic science think tank. I wouldn't expect Apple to make any breakthroughs in low level telecommunications tech. That they do at all, is a credit to them, but their "job" and stated goal is to integrate technologies to make products to make people's lives better.
Also "Huawei" appears nowhere on this thread except in your post, so why are you writing a thesis on why Huawei isn't a "knockoff" company rather than just conceding the obvious point that "Chinese knockoffs" are a huge industry and relevant to this discussion?
Because Strange Days was referencing Huawei with that absurd comment. It's a very long running jibe he likes to throw around. At least he didn't try the KFC angle. The knockoffs are Chinese companies and Huawei is his preferred target.
When I say Apple isn't even trying it's because it's a CE company and the problems I was referring to were the ones which had persisted for decades. Problems that require some serious R&D. Let's not forget that over half of Huawei's workforce is made up of engineering talent and they have research centers around the globe. You have to put it into a 'knockoff' context.
I gave some examples but just a random selection.
I wouldn't say Apple doesn't plough money into R&D. What top player doesn't? But the 'knockoff' claim is literally so far off base that that really is absurd. Especially when we are supposed to be believing it is Apple that is being knocked off.
Apple just does not have the resources or the knowledgebase to dedicate to what Huawei (or Samsung for that matter) can do. In part due to it being a public company and very dependent on sales of a CE product.
We've seen the car project wound down and, if rumours are to be believed, resources transferred to other areas like AI, where again, things seem to be lacking. Even having bought an entire wireless division (with patents included) the 5G modem is still not out of the oven.
Huawei released its full stack AI solution back in 2018. Its Balong 5000 5G modem was released in 2019 (NSA/SA). NearLink came into being in 2020. Those are things that Apple could have aspired to but so far hasn't. Although there is no guarantee they could pull it off.
But 'knockoffs'! It's laughable.
The 'knockoff' comment is the typical (and habitual) ignorant post that 9 times out of 10 I simply let go, but every once in a while needs to be called out for what it is. Nonsense.
Apple delivered UWB in phones before any other company, and in multiple devices, including AirTag; NearLink is just an evolved UWB.
Apple gave up on the car business because the only way it would be profitable was with Level 5 Autonomy, which isn't around the corner. EV's are not going to be any more profitable that pure ICE, and I am very supportive of hybrids, being a more practical solution to living in the American West.
Fair point on Apple's cellular modem, but even with that, it would appear that Apple is fully capable of finishing the task.
Apple is, in fact, a public company, and Huawei and Samsung are in fact, both very closed tied to their governments. At least South Korea is a democracy.
Apple does in fact, spend more that Huawei on R&D, $28B for last year alone, all paid for out of revenues and profits.
I don't support China due to its abundant threats to Taiwan, and its minority human rights abuses. Why would I want to support Huawei, which is deeply entrenched within the CCP?
Just an evolved UWB?
I suppose that depends on what you call evolved. Apple, AFAIK, uses UWB as location sensor. Nearlink pulls other areas in.
"NearLink uses a combination of different technologies, including ultra-wideband (UWB), millimeter wave (mmWave), and visible light communication (VLC), to achieve its high performance. UWB provides precise location tracking, mmWave provides high data rates, and VLC provides reliable communication in low-light conditions."
"For the maximum number of connections, NearLink supports the interconnection of a maximum of 4096 devices"
"For anti-interference, NearLink can achieve a more stable connection. It is equipped with 5G Polar encoding technology. The anti-interference performance is 7dB better than traditional wireless technology"
"For lower latency, NearLink can achieve a delay of 20 microseconds. This is the first time that human wireless connection technology has entered the microsecond level."
The latest M-pencil is an example of where NearLink can make a difference. 10,000+ pressure levels. Near instant response times. Low power. Low interference. Laser pointing function...
NearLink is also in their latest TV remotes and earbuds etc.
1. Toothbrushes are specifically exempt. That powerful toothbrush lobby! 2. Although the law going into effect this coming January, there is no enforcement mechanism for violations before July 1, 2027. That should be plenty of time for Apple to comply (or hire the lobbyist used by the toothbrush cartel).
And in breakthrough technologies in almost any field, Apple isn't even trying. I'm talking about problems that have been around for decades, like overcoming Shannon's limit (polar codes) or moving beyond Von Neumann architecture. That nut has been cracked too.
In Apple's top product category (phones), Huawei has been a, no, is THE leader in almost the entire set of tentpole phone features that have come to iPhone over the last seven years.
Who is knocking off who? LOL.
Wow. Apple spends billions on R&R annually, but they aren't even trying "in almost any field"? You make some interesting points, but then you took it to an absurd level.
No one is arguing that Apple is some sort of basic science think tank. I wouldn't expect Apple to make any breakthroughs in low level telecommunications tech. That they do at all, is a credit to them, but their "job" and stated goal is to integrate technologies to make products to make people's lives better.
Also "Huawei" appears nowhere on this thread except in your post, so why are you writing a thesis on why Huawei isn't a "knockoff" company rather than just conceding the obvious point that "Chinese knockoffs" are a huge industry and relevant to this discussion?
Because Strange Days was referencing Huawei with that absurd comment. It's a very long running jibe he likes to throw around. At least he didn't try the KFC angle. The knockoffs are Chinese companies and Huawei is his preferred target.
When I say Apple isn't even trying it's because it's a CE company and the problems I was referring to were the ones which had persisted for decades. Problems that require some serious R&D. Let's not forget that over half of Huawei's workforce is made up of engineering talent and they have research centers around the globe. You have to put it into a 'knockoff' context.
I gave some examples but just a random selection.
I wouldn't say Apple doesn't plough money into R&D. What top player doesn't? But the 'knockoff' claim is literally so far off base that that really is absurd. Especially when we are supposed to be believing it is Apple that is being knocked off.
Apple just does not have the resources or the knowledgebase to dedicate to what Huawei (or Samsung for that matter) can do. In part due to it being a public company and very dependent on sales of a CE product.
We've seen the car project wound down and, if rumours are to be believed, resources transferred to other areas like AI, where again, things seem to be lacking. Even having bought an entire wireless division (with patents included) the 5G modem is still not out of the oven.
Huawei released its full stack AI solution back in 2018. Its Balong 5000 5G modem was released in 2019 (NSA/SA). NearLink came into being in 2020. Those are things that Apple could have aspired to but so far hasn't. Although there is no guarantee they could pull it off.
But 'knockoffs'! It's laughable.
The 'knockoff' comment is the typical (and habitual) ignorant post that 9 times out of 10 I simply let go, but every once in a while needs to be called out for what it is. Nonsense.
Apple delivered UWB in phones before any other company, and in multiple devices, including AirTag; NearLink is just an evolved UWB.
Apple gave up on the car business because the only way it would be profitable was with Level 5 Autonomy, which isn't around the corner. EV's are not going to be any more profitable that pure ICE, and I am very supportive of hybrids, being a more practical solution to living in the American West.
Fair point on Apple's cellular modem, but even with that, it would appear that Apple is fully capable of finishing the task.
Apple is, in fact, a public company, and Huawei and Samsung are in fact, both very closed tied to their governments. At least South Korea is a democracy.
Apple does in fact, spend more that Huawei on R&D, $28B for last year alone, all paid for out of revenues and profits.
I don't support China due to its abundant threats to Taiwan, and its minority human rights abuses. Why would I want to support Huawei, which is deeply entrenched within the CCP?
Just an evolved UWB?
I suppose that depends on what you call evolved. Apple, AFAIK, uses UWB as location sensor. Nearlink pulls other areas in.
"NearLink uses a combination of different technologies, including ultra-wideband (UWB), millimeter wave (mmWave), and visible light communication (VLC), to achieve its high performance. UWB provides precise location tracking, mmWave provides high data rates, and VLC provides reliable communication in low-light conditions."
"For the maximum number of connections, NearLink supports the interconnection of a maximum of 4096 devices"
"For anti-interference, NearLink can achieve a more stable connection. It is equipped with 5G Polar encoding technology. The anti-interference performance is 7dB better than traditional wireless technology"
"For lower latency, NearLink can achieve a delay of 20 microseconds. This is the first time that human wireless connection technology has entered the microsecond level."
The latest M-pencil is an example of where NearLink can make a difference. 10,000+ pressure levels. Near instant response times. Low power. Low interference. Laser pointing function...
NearLink is also in their latest TV remotes and earbuds etc.
It's wonderful that Huawei and China are tied so close, to the point that Huawei gets to create "defacto" standards, but it doesn't work that way in the U.S.
Meanwhile, capital is flowing out of China, and well educated Chinese migrants are the big change at the U.S. border with Mexico. Maybe the best and the brightest that make it through to the U.S. will be allowed status to immigrate and gain naturalized citizenship.
You posted earlier about "U.S. hegemony", not realizing the it was U.S. hegemony that facilitates the very global order and trade that China relies on. Needless to state, Xi's want to micromanage his country, just as every other authoritarian in the world does. How's that actually working out?
China's window of opportunity to invade Taiwan is rapidly closing, and even then, there is no guarantee that China has the ability to invade successfully. For that threat, China earned restrictions on technology that would benefit their military, and more restrictions are on the way.
And in breakthrough technologies in almost any field, Apple isn't even trying. I'm talking about problems that have been around for decades, like overcoming Shannon's limit (polar codes) or moving beyond Von Neumann architecture. That nut has been cracked too.
In Apple's top product category (phones), Huawei has been a, no, is THE leader in almost the entire set of tentpole phone features that have come to iPhone over the last seven years.
Who is knocking off who? LOL.
Wow. Apple spends billions on R&R annually, but they aren't even trying "in almost any field"? You make some interesting points, but then you took it to an absurd level.
No one is arguing that Apple is some sort of basic science think tank. I wouldn't expect Apple to make any breakthroughs in low level telecommunications tech. That they do at all, is a credit to them, but their "job" and stated goal is to integrate technologies to make products to make people's lives better.
Also "Huawei" appears nowhere on this thread except in your post, so why are you writing a thesis on why Huawei isn't a "knockoff" company rather than just conceding the obvious point that "Chinese knockoffs" are a huge industry and relevant to this discussion?
Because Strange Days was referencing Huawei with that absurd comment. It's a very long running jibe he likes to throw around. At least he didn't try the KFC angle. The knockoffs are Chinese companies and Huawei is his preferred target.
When I say Apple isn't even trying it's because it's a CE company and the problems I was referring to were the ones which had persisted for decades. Problems that require some serious R&D. Let's not forget that over half of Huawei's workforce is made up of engineering talent and they have research centers around the globe. You have to put it into a 'knockoff' context.
I gave some examples but just a random selection.
I wouldn't say Apple doesn't plough money into R&D. What top player doesn't? But the 'knockoff' claim is literally so far off base that that really is absurd. Especially when we are supposed to be believing it is Apple that is being knocked off.
Apple just does not have the resources or the knowledgebase to dedicate to what Huawei (or Samsung for that matter) can do. In part due to it being a public company and very dependent on sales of a CE product.
We've seen the car project wound down and, if rumours are to be believed, resources transferred to other areas like AI, where again, things seem to be lacking. Even having bought an entire wireless division (with patents included) the 5G modem is still not out of the oven.
Huawei released its full stack AI solution back in 2018. Its Balong 5000 5G modem was released in 2019 (NSA/SA). NearLink came into being in 2020. Those are things that Apple could have aspired to but so far hasn't. Although there is no guarantee they could pull it off.
But 'knockoffs'! It's laughable.
The 'knockoff' comment is the typical (and habitual) ignorant post that 9 times out of 10 I simply let go, but every once in a while needs to be called out for what it is. Nonsense.
Apple delivered UWB in phones before any other company, and in multiple devices, including AirTag; NearLink is just an evolved UWB.
Apple gave up on the car business because the only way it would be profitable was with Level 5 Autonomy, which isn't around the corner. EV's are not going to be any more profitable that pure ICE, and I am very supportive of hybrids, being a more practical solution to living in the American West.
Fair point on Apple's cellular modem, but even with that, it would appear that Apple is fully capable of finishing the task.
Apple is, in fact, a public company, and Huawei and Samsung are in fact, both very closed tied to their governments. At least South Korea is a democracy.
Apple does in fact, spend more that Huawei on R&D, $28B for last year alone, all paid for out of revenues and profits.
I don't support China due to its abundant threats to Taiwan, and its minority human rights abuses. Why would I want to support Huawei, which is deeply entrenched within the CCP?
Just an evolved UWB?
I suppose that depends on what you call evolved. Apple, AFAIK, uses UWB as location sensor. Nearlink pulls other areas in.
"NearLink uses a combination of different technologies, including ultra-wideband (UWB), millimeter wave (mmWave), and visible light communication (VLC), to achieve its high performance. UWB provides precise location tracking, mmWave provides high data rates, and VLC provides reliable communication in low-light conditions."
"For the maximum number of connections, NearLink supports the interconnection of a maximum of 4096 devices"
"For anti-interference, NearLink can achieve a more stable connection. It is equipped with 5G Polar encoding technology. The anti-interference performance is 7dB better than traditional wireless technology"
"For lower latency, NearLink can achieve a delay of 20 microseconds. This is the first time that human wireless connection technology has entered the microsecond level."
The latest M-pencil is an example of where NearLink can make a difference. 10,000+ pressure levels. Near instant response times. Low power. Low interference. Laser pointing function...
NearLink is also in their latest TV remotes and earbuds etc.
It's wonderful that Huawei and China are tied so close, to the point that Huawei gets to create "defacto" standards, but it doesn't work that way in the U.S.
Meanwhile, capital is flowing out of China, and well educated Chinese migrants are the big change at the U.S. border with Mexico. Maybe the best and the brightest that make it through to the U.S. will be allowed status to immigrate and gain naturalized citizenship.
You posted earlier about "U.S. hegemony", not realizing the it was U.S. hegemony that facilitates the very global order and trade that China relies on. Needless to state, Xi's want to micromanage his country, just as every other authoritarian in the world does. How's that actually working out?
China's window of opportunity to invade Taiwan is rapidly closing, and even then, there is no guarantee that China has the ability to invade successfully. For that threat, China earned restrictions on technology that would benefit their military, and more restrictions are on the way.
Sad.
It is not a 'defacto standard' and the irony here is, once again (seeing as it is a comment from you), absolutely HUGE.
NearLink is the DIRECT result of US attempts to kill Huawei (which, I will remind you yet again, is NOT China).
The US tried to get Huawei booted off the Bluetooth standards alliance. That failed, but Huawei decided to start developing its own solutions.
Yeah, hegemony. Actually, pure nonsense seeing as the 'West' represents less than 20% of the world's population and the so called 'Global South' basically makes up the rest and China is playing to those markets through the BRI and digital silk road.
Of course, they are not alone, as BRICS+ is in there too and almost everyone (save for your minority, colonial 'West') is looking for a fairer system. I can't begrudge them that.
After all, the EU isn't too happy either with the US trying to pull strings here. The EU processor initiative (like NearLink) was another case of wanting to reduce dependencies on the US in critical areas. Of course Big Tech is another area where power needed reigning in. Right to repair is at least partially part of this movement too.
In fact, US semiconductor interests aren't happy either. Nor are the Koreans.
That is the harsh reality. And it's not even 'the West'.
The so-called 'rules based system' is more nonsense when one player makes and breaks them willy-nilly. Wasn't the Trump experience a big enough wake up call? You already know what the EU thinks, as a top official got caught with a live mic just before Trump got elected. Nothing has changed. Even with Merkel off the scene.
But why go political?
Although NearLink does have partly political roots, the point was that such a technology didn't come from Apple. How on earth could a 'knockoff' pull that off? Who did they 'knock off'?
Tell me that? Because that was my point.
They partnered with 300 companies (now over 400) in every technology domain (software, chipsets, appliances, industrial, antennas...) to make NearLink reality. It is shipping on real products. Today.
And with the 'ecosystem' in place why isn't Apple doing what Huawei has done? Why hasn't it brought similar technologies to the ecosystem and tied everything together?
Or should they partner with Huawei and those 400, save time and effort, and just bring NearLink to the iDevice ecosystem?
What would the knockoff parrots say then? The horror!
Instead of screaming 'knockoff' like a parrot, don't you think it's time that Apple actually delivered? Instead of drip feeding iPhone features every September to its (captive?) user base.
I gave some simple off-the-top-of-my head examples but it would be of more value if Apple users actually demanded more from the company instead of trying to nonsensically throw 'knockoff' around as some like to do.
Or are they already doing this by not buying iPhones as much as before?
And if NearLink takes off in terms of adoption, what impact will that have on Apple in one of its major markets?
"NEARLINK: THE REVOLUTIONARY WIRELESS STANDARD POWERING AI
HUAWEI’S REVOLUTIONARY NEARLINK WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY: A GAME CHANGER FOR CONNECTED DEVICES"
An ecosystem jam packed with instant connecting, lightning fast, zero latency, stable, short range wireless systems on devices (yes, including cars) and consumer/industrial IoT, running through HarmonyOS (both Huawei's and the OpenHarmony) variants which were built fromthegroundup with distributed hardware and software in mind.
Some reports from earlier this year have even claimed HarmonyOS could overtake iOS in China in the coming months.
"... in August 2019, the company embraced HarmonyOS as its proprietary Android alternative. Now, four years on, the unfolding narrative is reaching a pivotal moment. HarmonyOS is now on the brink of surpassing Apple’s iOS, marking a transformative milestone in the evolving landscape of China’s operating systems."
None of this would have happened so fast if a different approach had been taken.
On repair, I've already provided an idea of how Huawei handles repair. Although it is not usually expensive, yes, there are some exceptions.
Both Apple and Huawei (and everyone else) should be shipping highly repairable devices. The EU will soon have its repairabilty and updated batteries directives ready and that will bring with it more demands and some of them may be eye openers like allowing users to choose which new features are included in updates and the ability to downgrade if they have a overly dramatic impact on the device in terms of performance.
1. Toothbrushes are specifically exempt. That powerful toothbrush lobby! 2. Although the law going into effect this coming January, there is no enforcement mechanism for violations before July 1, 2027. That should be plenty of time for Apple to comply (or hire the lobbyist used by the toothbrush cartel).
I have a Philips Sonicare toothbrush that cost about $180 that “broke” a few years ago. I use quotes because it really wasn’t broken. All that happened was a screw on the plate that vibrates came loose. Basically all you needed to fix it was a screwdriver and a thin spacer of the right thickness to calibrate the amplitude of the vibration. But opening the case without doing any damage to it was difficult. I understand it partly because you want it to be highly water resistant but there were definitely ways to do that without making it so hard to open. I’m not 100% sure but I don’t think there was a way to send it back to Philips for a repair for a fee. They seemed to only take back units under warranty.
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I suppose that depends on what you call evolved. Apple, AFAIK, uses UWB as location sensor. Nearlink pulls other areas in.
"NearLink uses a combination of different technologies, including ultra-wideband (UWB), millimeter wave (mmWave), and visible light communication (VLC), to achieve its high performance. UWB provides precise location tracking, mmWave provides high data rates, and VLC provides reliable communication in low-light conditions."
"For the maximum number of connections, NearLink supports the interconnection of a maximum of 4096 devices"
"For anti-interference, NearLink can achieve a more stable connection. It is equipped with 5G Polar encoding technology. The anti-interference performance is 7dB better than traditional wireless technology"
"For lower latency, NearLink can achieve a delay of 20 microseconds. This is the first time that human wireless connection technology has entered the microsecond level."
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/anny-y-5a40a8175_nearlink-huawei-activity-7112793260703567872-R2NL
The latest M-pencil is an example of where NearLink can make a difference. 10,000+ pressure levels. Near instant response times. Low power. Low interference. Laser pointing function...
NearLink is also in their latest TV remotes and earbuds etc.
...the Sonicare toothbrush was invented right next door in Washington.
Now owned by Philips.
Philips has a recent history of getting what they want from the government https://www.propublica.org/article/the-trump-administration-is-backing-out-of-a-647-million-ventilator-deal-after-propublica-investigated-the-price
Meanwhile, capital is flowing out of China, and well educated Chinese migrants are the big change at the U.S. border with Mexico. Maybe the best and the brightest that make it through to the U.S. will be allowed status to immigrate and gain naturalized citizenship.
You posted earlier about "U.S. hegemony", not realizing the it was U.S. hegemony that facilitates the very global order and trade that China relies on. Needless to state, Xi's want to micromanage his country, just as every other authoritarian in the world does. How's that actually working out?
China's window of opportunity to invade Taiwan is rapidly closing, and even then, there is no guarantee that China has the ability to invade successfully. For that threat, China earned restrictions on technology that would benefit their military, and more restrictions are on the way.
Sad.
It is not a 'defacto standard' and the irony here is, once again (seeing as it is a comment from you), absolutely HUGE.
NearLink is the DIRECT result of US attempts to kill Huawei (which, I will remind you yet again, is NOT China).
The US tried to get Huawei booted off the Bluetooth standards alliance. That failed, but Huawei decided to start developing its own solutions.
Yeah, hegemony. Actually, pure nonsense seeing as the 'West' represents less than 20% of the world's population and the so called 'Global South' basically makes up the rest and China is playing to those markets through the BRI and digital silk road.
Of course, they are not alone, as BRICS+ is in there too and almost everyone (save for your minority, colonial 'West') is looking for a fairer system. I can't begrudge them that.
After all, the EU isn't too happy either with the US trying to pull strings here. The EU processor initiative (like NearLink) was another case of wanting to reduce dependencies on the US in critical areas. Of course Big Tech is another area where power needed reigning in. Right to repair is at least partially part of this movement too.
In fact, US semiconductor interests aren't happy either. Nor are the Koreans.
That is the harsh reality. And it's not even 'the West'.
The so-called 'rules based system' is more nonsense when one player makes and breaks them willy-nilly. Wasn't the Trump experience a big enough wake up call? You already know what the EU thinks, as a top official got caught with a live mic just before Trump got elected. Nothing has changed. Even with Merkel off the scene.
But why go political?
Although NearLink does have partly political roots, the point was that such a technology didn't come from Apple. How on earth could a 'knockoff' pull that off? Who did they 'knock off'?
Tell me that? Because that was my point.
They partnered with 300 companies (now over 400) in every technology domain (software, chipsets, appliances, industrial, antennas...) to make NearLink reality. It is shipping on real products. Today.
And with the 'ecosystem' in place why isn't Apple doing what Huawei has done? Why hasn't it brought similar technologies to the ecosystem and tied everything together?
Or should they partner with Huawei and those 400, save time and effort, and just bring NearLink to the iDevice ecosystem?
What would the knockoff parrots say then? The horror!
Instead of screaming 'knockoff' like a parrot, don't you think it's time that Apple actually delivered? Instead of drip feeding iPhone features every September to its (captive?) user base.
I gave some simple off-the-top-of-my head examples but it would be of more value if Apple users actually demanded more from the company instead of trying to nonsensically throw 'knockoff' around as some like to do.
Or are they already doing this by not buying iPhones as much as before?
And if NearLink takes off in terms of adoption, what impact will that have on Apple in one of its major markets?
"NEARLINK: THE REVOLUTIONARY WIRELESS STANDARD POWERING AI
HUAWEI’S REVOLUTIONARY NEARLINK WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY: A GAME CHANGER FOR CONNECTED DEVICES"
https://aiforsocialgood.ca/news/nearlink-the-revolutionary-wireless-standard-powering-ai
An ecosystem jam packed with instant connecting, lightning fast, zero latency, stable, short range wireless systems on devices (yes, including cars) and consumer/industrial IoT, running through HarmonyOS (both Huawei's and the OpenHarmony) variants which were built from the ground up with distributed hardware and software in mind.
Some reports from earlier this year have even claimed HarmonyOS could overtake iOS in China in the coming months.
"... in August 2019, the company embraced HarmonyOS as its proprietary Android alternative. Now, four years on, the unfolding narrative is reaching a pivotal moment. HarmonyOS is now on the brink of surpassing Apple’s iOS, marking a transformative milestone in the evolving landscape of China’s operating systems."
https://techwireasia.com/01/2024/harmonyos-set-to-overtake-ios-in-china-this-year/#:~:text=5 January, 2024-,HarmonyOS is expected to surpass iOS in China, fueled by,a solid recovery in 2024.
None of this would have happened so fast if a different approach had been taken.
On repair, I've already provided an idea of how Huawei handles repair. Although it is not usually expensive, yes, there are some exceptions.
Both Apple and Huawei (and everyone else) should be shipping highly repairable devices. The EU will soon have its repairabilty and updated batteries directives ready and that will bring with it more demands and some of them may be eye openers like allowing users to choose which new features are included in updates and the ability to downgrade if they have a overly dramatic impact on the device in terms of performance.