EU is reportedly going to fine Apple over failure to comply with the Digital Markets Act

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  • Reply 21 of 27
    nubusnubus Posts: 573member
    spheric said:
    nubus said:

    Other US companies do this every day. Ford, IBM, McDonald's, Microsoft, Coca Cola,…
    Fun facts: 

    Ford was fined by the EU for emissions fraud (and by the US for circumventing import tariffs)

    IBM avoided a heavy EU antitrust fine for abusing their position in supercomputing by making major concessions and offering to redress past imbalances. 

    McDonald's was severely fined in at least one EU nation for tax avoidance. 

    These companies have adapted at least in part. IBM is recognizing unions in the EU. McDonald's is even doing "we're happy to work with unions" statements in EU. Apple spent 10 years against USB-C even after having signed a deal to make a common charger. The politicians got tired. Now Apple is on their own without any political goodwill left.
    williamlondon
  • Reply 22 of 27
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,665member
    nubus said:
    spheric said:
    nubus said:

    Other US companies do this every day. Ford, IBM, McDonald's, Microsoft, Coca Cola,…
    Fun facts: 

    Ford was fined by the EU for emissions fraud (and by the US for circumventing import tariffs)

    IBM avoided a heavy EU antitrust fine for abusing their position in supercomputing by making major concessions and offering to redress past imbalances. 

    McDonald's was severely fined in at least one EU nation for tax avoidance. 

    These companies have adapted at least in part. IBM is recognizing unions in the EU. McDonald's is even doing "we're happy to work with unions" statements in EU. Apple spent 10 years against USB-C even after having signed a deal to make a common charger. 
    Careful here: Apple signed on for a current charger, and they were among the first to go USB-C (even exclusively so on their MacBooks in 2016, when hardly anybody else was using it at all). 

    Until 2022 (just two years ago!), the EU common charger was supposed to be fucking MICRO USB. 
    kurai_kagewatto_cobra
  • Reply 23 of 27
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,008member
    We knew this was happening as soon as they pretended to “investigate. 

    The whole thing was and is a railroad job. 

    It’s a government. So they can just be dictators based on that alone. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 24 of 27
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,008member
    foregoneconclusion said:
    More proof that the EU will use the DMA to constantly move the goalposts and claim violations. The fact that they’re not going to immediately impose a fine means that the “violation” isn’t really clear in the original language.
    They’ve got to find ways to fund their lifestyles somehow. Americas richest company ought to b
    eca nice piggy bank to break into when needed. 
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 25 of 27
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,960member
    9secondkox2 said:
    We knew this was happening as soon as they pretended to “investigate. 

    The whole thing was and is a railroad job. 

    It’s a government. So they can just be dictators based on that alone. 
    Nonsense. There have been lots of successful appeals against EU decisions. And by US companies! 

    Aren't you jumping the gun here by not actually waiting for a fine to be imposed or listening to the reasons behind it? 

    "Patience, young grasshopper"

    spheric
  • Reply 26 of 27
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,665member
    9secondkox2 said:
    foregoneconclusion said:
    More proof that the EU will use the DMA to constantly move the goalposts and claim violations. The fact that they’re not going to immediately impose a fine means that the “violation” isn’t really clear in the original language.
    They’ve got to find ways to fund their lifestyles somehow. Americas richest company ought to b
    eca nice piggy bank to break into when needed. 
    Oy. You're not supposed to tell everybody that we're all just living off your taxes. 
  • Reply 27 of 27
    lovemnlovemn Posts: 53member
    The only thing the EU governing body wants is Apple’s money. That’s the only reason. 
    watto_cobra
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