Google's new Nest Learning Thermostat works with HomeKit through Matter

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Google has announced a sleek fourth version of its Nest Learning Thermostat, alongside a Nest Temperature Sensor, and since they support Matter, both can work with Apple HomeKit.

Two round devices: left shows temperature 72F/70F on a black screen; right shows time 09:30 on a brown screen.
A larger display also comes with options for showing the time as well as the temperature



More than ten years after the design of the Nest Learning Thermostat was applauded for its elegant design, a new version aims to extend that elegance and provide finer smart home control. The Nest Learning Thermostat is larger and its rounded shape is reportedly inspired by water.

"Nest is so iconic. It's been such a pivotal product in the industry," says Ivy Ross, Chief Design Officer for consumer devices, in a blog post dedicated to the new design work. "I think it took a lot of courage to reimagine its design because when it launched, it was really the start of a new era where smart home devices weren't just functional, but beautiful, too."

The fourth generation of the Nest Learning Thermostat features a domed crystal LCD that is 60% bigger than the last version. It entirely hides the screen's bezels, presenting a full-screen view of controls and environment information.

It features what Google calls a Dynamic Farsight option, which means the display can be customized. As well as a regular temperature display, it can show a clock, outdoor air quality, or the weather.


On the inside, reports Google in a separate blog post, the Nest now of course uses Artificial Intelligence. AI automatically adjusts the temperature of your house depending on your usage, so that it remains comfortable, but doesn't waste money.

Alongside the new display, the unit comes in polished silver, obsidian, or gold color options. The unit also comes as standard with a Nest Temperature Sensor, and additional ones can be bought separately.

The Nest Learning Thermometer can now be pre-ordered from Amazon, Best Buy and Google's own store. Devices will be available on August 20, 2024. In the US, the new Nest will cost $279.99, and in Canada it will be $379.99.

Separate Nest Temperature Sensors will cost $39.99, or $99.99 for a pack of three. Those prices are in US dollars; Google has not stated what the Canadian equivalents will be.



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  • Reply 1 of 8
    kurai_kagekurai_kage Posts: 110member

    ..., and since they support Matter, both can work with Apple HomeKit.

    I was super excited until I noticed "both can" in the first sentence, which is not what the article title implies.  I still have a first gen Nest, but I've always wanted HomeKit support.  Looks like I'll have to wait till these are out and reviewed by HomeKit enthusiasts to get a good picture of how comprehensive any support is.  Hopefully AI will get an early unit and provide its own review, including comparisons to the current Ecobee and any other prominent HK thermostat.  Last I checked there weren't that many notable alternatives though.
    Scot1watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 8
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,554member

    ..., and since they support Matter, both can work with Apple HomeKit.

    I was super excited until I noticed "both can" in the first sentence, which is not what the article title implies.  I still have a first gen Nest, but I've always wanted HomeKit support.  Looks like I'll have to wait till these are out and reviewed by HomeKit enthusiasts to get a good picture of how comprehensive any support is.  Hopefully AI will get an early unit and provide its own review, including comparisons to the current Ecobee and any other prominent HK thermostat.  Last I checked there weren't that many notable alternatives though.
    Apple’s Home app can pair to the upcoming and redesigned 4th gen Nest Learning Thermostat, but you'll only have basic controls, for example temperature settings. For the full boat of advanced features you will need the Google Home App, which is vastly improved over what it was a couple of years ago.
    edited August 6 dewme
  • Reply 3 of 8
    igorskyigorsky Posts: 773member
    kurai_kage said:

    ..., and since they support Matter, both can work with Apple HomeKit.

    Last I checked there weren't that many notable alternatives though.
    You just mentioned a notable alternative: Ecobee. I have four throughout the house for the last five years and they’ve been excellent. Haven’t even thought about Nest. 
    watto_cobrawilliamlondondewmerezwitsStrangeDays
  • Reply 4 of 8
    coolfactorcoolfactor Posts: 2,317member

    Must admit that Google is winning with this one. Great industrial design.

    And thank you to the editors for the country-specific currency mentions. It's been increasingly frustrating to have articles written mentioning price, but without mentioning the currency or country. Not everyone lives in the US, or uses USD in day-to-day life. :smiley: 
    watto_cobrawilliamlondon
  • Reply 5 of 8
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,554member
    igorsky said:
    kurai_kage said:

    ..., and since they support Matter, both can work with Apple HomeKit.

    Last I checked there weren't that many notable alternatives though.
    You just mentioned a notable alternative: Ecobee. I have four throughout the house for the last five years and they’ve been excellent. Haven’t even thought about Nest. 
    I did just preorder the new Nest Thermostat, primarily for two features: More malleable and specific "learning", and the inclusion of the temp monitor in the box for the master bedroom. Both should make my wife happier. If it were just me, I'm good with the 2nd gen units we have now.

    Of course I won't argue with the larger display with optional info fields other than the current temperature setting, but that's mostly a guy thing. 
  • Reply 6 of 8
    DGDMNDGDMN Posts: 8member

    I was super excited until I noticed "both can" in the first sentence, which is not what the article title implies.  I still have a first gen Nest, but I've always wanted HomeKit support.  Looks like I'll have to wait till these are out and reviewed by HomeKit enthusiasts to get a good picture of how comprehensive any support is.  Hopefully AI will get an early unit and provide its own review, including comparisons to the current Ecobee and any other prominent HK thermostat.  Last I checked there weren't that many notable alternatives though.

    You can also add Starling hub at home to bridge most Google / camera devices to homekit.
    jib
  • Reply 7 of 8
    williamlondonwilliamlondon Posts: 1,398member
    Data hoovering devices.
    davenStrangeDays
  • Reply 8 of 8
    StrangeDaysStrangeDays Posts: 13,030member
    gatorguy said:
    igorsky said:
    kurai_kage said:

    ..., and since they support Matter, both can work with Apple HomeKit.

    Last I checked there weren't that many notable alternatives though.
    You just mentioned a notable alternative: Ecobee. I have four throughout the house for the last five years and they’ve been excellent. Haven’t even thought about Nest. 
    I did just preorder the new Nest Thermostat, primarily for two features: More malleable and specific "learning", and the inclusion of the temp monitor in the box for the master bedroom. Both should make my wife happier. If it were just me, I'm good with the 2nd gen units we have now.

    Of course I won't argue with the larger display with optional info fields other than the current temperature setting, but that's mostly a guy thing. 
    IMO the self-learning aspect of the Nest (its original tent pole) was not a big feature. Cool in idea, but I still ended up programming my own schedule the way I know I want it. Especially if you have pets. 
    dewmewilliamlondon
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