New M4 Mac models being tested ahead of likely October release

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Recently discovered developer test logs suggest that Apple is preparing to release a new M4 Mac a month after the iPhone 16 event.

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The 14-inch MacBook Pro is to be the first to gain the M4 processor



As we move into the second half of 2024, many Apple fans are preparing for the highly anticipated iPhone event, where the tech giant will unveil the iPhone 16. However, the iPhone isn't the only thing we can look forward to this year - new Macs are also expected to be released.

Apple has begun testing unreleased Mac models to ensure compatibility with third-party applications, according to developer test logs seen by Bloomberg. The Macs being tested have been identified as "16,1," "16,2," "16,3," and "16,10."

Each Mac is a base-level version of a machine equipped with an M4 chip. Of the four, three have 10 total cores in their CPUs, while one lower-end has eight cores. The 10-core CPUs tested also have 10-core graphics processing units, while the eight-core CPU has an eight-core GPU. All models being tested have either 16 or 32 gigabytes of memory.

This would suggest that the models being tested are likely a new MacBook Pro lineup. As they are being tested, it would make sense to see a new M4 MacBook Pro line as early as October.

An October launch would also align Apple's previous months-long gap between the base M-series chip and the Pro and Max releases in the M1 and M2 generations. The October 2023 update saw all three chip tiers introduced simultaneously and in the MacBook Air lineup.

While there's no concrete way to tell when Apple is going to launch a product, it's likely that we'll see the MacBook Pro and Mac mini lines updated first. The iMac could also see a refresh this fall, but we anticipate the MacBook Air will need to wait until spring of 2025 before its jump to M4.



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  • Reply 1 of 16
    netroxnetrox Posts: 1,482member
    I hope that means the end of 8GB as the base model!
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  • Reply 2 of 16
    tipootipoo Posts: 1,158member

    Wait wait wait, does this report say that it's not just moving the base from 8GB to 12GB as speculated, but the entry level is now 16GB? That's great news if that's what it's saying! Hope there aren't 8GB entry-er models hiding out there

    8 core M4 instead of the already binned iPad Pro's 9 core is slightly odd, but it's 4+4 instead of 3+6 so probably makes sense from an available power and thermal situation

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  • Reply 3 of 16
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,286member
    netrox said:
    I hope that means the end of 8GB as the base model!
    Don’t worry, be happy  https://www.youtube.com/@AZisk
    netrox
  • Reply 4 of 16
    thttht Posts: 5,619member
    Each Mac is a base-level version of a machine equipped with an M4 chip. Of the four, three have 10 total cores in their CPUs, while one lower-end has eight cores.
    Hmm, for different Mac product lines or 4 options in 1 or 2 M4 Mac products?

    M4 iMac
    M4 Mac mini
    M4 Macbook Air
    M4 Macbook Pro

    Could be a really fast 6 month life for the M3 MBA15. Would be a miracle if the iMac is updated within a year.

    This might be the year my 2013 iMac 27" is retired. It's still going though. We don't use it for anything other than as a server, mostly.
  • Reply 5 of 16
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,286member
    tht said:
    Each Mac is a base-level version of a machine equipped with an M4 chip. Of the four, three have 10 total cores in their CPUs, while one lower-end has eight cores.
    Hmm, for different Mac product lines or 4 options in 1 or 2 M4 Mac products?

    M4 iMac
    M4 Mac mini
    M4 Macbook Air
    M4 Macbook Pro

    Could be a really fast 6 month life for the M3 MBA15. Would be a miracle if the iMac is updated within a year.

    This might be the year my 2013 iMac 27" is retired. It's still going though. We don't use it for anything other than as a server, mostly.
    I hope you get your wish the large screen iMacs are so cost-effective, a powerful large screen iMac in the XDR enclosure would be awesome to late for me I had to upgrade to a Studio Mac/XDR from a  2011 iMac. (had to have the graphics card replaced once along the way with the 27” 2011 iMac).
    edited August 23 Alex1N
  • Reply 6 of 16
    tht said:
    Each Mac is a base-level version of a machine equipped with an M4 chip. Of the four, three have 10 total cores in their CPUs, while one lower-end has eight cores.
    Hmm, for different Mac product lines or 4 options in 1 or 2 M4 Mac products?

    M4 iMac
    M4 Mac mini
    M4 Macbook Air
    M4 Macbook Pro

    Could be a really fast 6 month life for the M3 MBA15. Would be a miracle if the iMac is updated within a year.

    This might be the year my 2013 iMac 27" is retired. It's still going though. We don't use it for anything other than as a server, mostly.
    I think I’d lay odds it’s the two iMac identifiers (currently two-port and four-port), plus the base Mini and the base 14" MacBook Pro.

    Not the Air, which is getting M5 in the first half of 2025. 
  • Reply 7 of 16
    Given how these model names work, this is more likely to be. 

    MacBook Air 13 8 core
    MacBook Air 13 10 core
    MacBook Air 15 10 core
    MacBook Pro 14 10 core




  • Reply 8 of 16
    Given how these model names work, [...]
    Here's the identifiers (different from model numbers) since M2, when they began using "Mac" for all of them:

    M2

    Mac14,2 :: M2 MacBook Air 13"

    Mac14,3 :: M2 Mac mini

    Mac14,5 :: M2 Pro MacBook Pro 14"
    Mac14,6 :: M2 Pro MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac14,7 :: M2 MacBook Pro 13"

    Mac14,8 :: M2 Ultra Mac Pro

    Mac14,9 :: M2 Max MacBook Pro 14"
    Mac14,10 :: M2 Max MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac14,12 :: M2 Pro Mac mini
    Mac14,13 :: M2 Max Mac Studio
    Mac14,14 :: M2 Ultra Mac Studio

    Mac14,15 :: M2 MacBook Air 15"

    M3

    Mac15,3 :: M3 (8/10) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac 15,4 :: M3 (8/8) iMac (Two ports)
    Mac 15,5 :: M3 (8/10) iMac (Four ports)

    Mac15,6 :: M3 Pro (11/14) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,7 :: M3 Pro (12/18) MacBook Pro 16"
    Mac15,8 :: M3 Pro (12/18) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,9 :: M3 Max (14/30) MacBook Pro 16"
    Mac15,10 :: M3 Max (14/30) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,11 :: M3 Max (16/40) MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac15,12 :: M3 MacBook Air 13"
    Mac15,13 :: M3 MacBook Air 15"

    It's guesswork, but here's what I think the four in this most recent leak mean:

    M4 (projected)

    Mac16,1 :: M4 (8/8) iMac (Two ports)
    Mac16,2 :: M4 (10/10) iMac (Four ports)

    Mac16,3 :: M4 (10/10) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac16,10 :: M4 (10/10) Mac mini
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  • Reply 9 of 16
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,529member
    My guess: 

    Mac mini 8/8 with 2 performances cores and 6 efficiency cores

    mac mini 10/10

    macbook pro 14 10/10

    MacBook Pro 16 10/10

  • Reply 10 of 16
    Alex1NAlex1N Posts: 148member
    Given how these model names work, [...]
    Here's the identifiers (different from model numbers) since M2, when they began using "Mac" for all of them:

    M2

    Mac14,2 :: M2 MacBook Air 13"

    Mac14,3 :: M2 Mac mini

    Mac14,5 :: M2 Pro MacBook Pro 14"
    Mac14,6 :: M2 Pro MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac14,7 :: M2 MacBook Pro 13"

    Mac14,8 :: M2 Ultra Mac Pro

    Mac14,9 :: M2 Max MacBook Pro 14"
    Mac14,10 :: M2 Max MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac14,12 :: M2 Pro Mac mini
    Mac14,13 :: M2 Max Mac Studio
    Mac14,14 :: M2 Ultra Mac Studio

    Mac14,15 :: M2 MacBook Air 15"

    M3

    Mac15,3 :: M3 (8/10) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac 15,4 :: M3 (8/8) iMac (Two ports)
    Mac 15,5 :: M3 (8/10) iMac (Four ports)

    Mac15,6 :: M3 Pro (11/14) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,7 :: M3 Pro (12/18) MacBook Pro 16"
    Mac15,8 :: M3 Pro (12/18) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,9 :: M3 Max (14/30) MacBook Pro 16"
    Mac15,10 :: M3 Max (14/30) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,11 :: M3 Max (16/40) MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac15,12 :: M3 MacBook Air 13"
    Mac15,13 :: M3 MacBook Air 15"

    It's guesswork, but here's what I think the four in this most recent leak mean:

    M4 (projected)

    Mac16,1 :: M4 (8/8) iMac (Two ports)
    Mac16,2 :: M4 (10/10) iMac (Four ports)

    Mac16,3 :: M4 (10/10) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac16,10 :: M4 (10/10) Mac mini

    Thanks for the M2 list and M4 projections, tenthousandthings. Given that list, with regard to the M2 Studio (Mac14,13/Mac14,14), it does appear that the M4 Studio won’t be released any time soon, ditto the M4 Pro mini - if that numbering scheme persists to the M4 Studio and mini ranges. 

    Unfortunately for me, the Studio is now my preferred option given that it has a fan and a great big copper heatsink, as opposed to the (currently) fan-less mini; and my 11,3 mid-2010 27” i7 iMac is really on its last legs.

    Given the time- and (likely) feature-gaps between the M2 and M4 ranges, at this stage I don’t want to have to cough up for an M2 Studio, and definitely not an M2 mini, but I may have to if the iMac croaks before the release of the M4 (Max) Studio. I’m not sure that M2 trade-ins would be worth as much as I would like and/or need. If only money weren’t an object.
    danox
  • Reply 11 of 16
    I have an M1 MBA 16gb/2TB and wonder how long I will have to wait before Apple produces something that will actually excite me enough to upgrade? 

    Regarding fans, once you have been fan-less, there is no going back. Like children, computers should be "seen and not heard". For studio sound recording, it means you no longer need a 'booth' and do you really want to be distracted by a change of fan speed, up or down, while writing? Silence is bliss and its value cannot be underestimated. 

    My next Mac will be a fan-less, small laptop with either 8 or 16 TB internal storage. A mini would be tempting except that an MBA can do everything a mini can do plus it is also a laptop. Otherwise, I could just buy an NVMe thunderbolt-connected 8TB and make my current M1 MBA last another 10 years. 
    Alex1N
  • Reply 12 of 16
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,529member
    Alex1N said:
    Given how these model names work, [...]
    Here's the identifiers (different from model numbers) since M2, when they began using "Mac" for all of them:

    M2

    Mac14,2 :: M2 MacBook Air 13"

    Mac14,3 :: M2 Mac mini

    Mac14,5 :: M2 Pro MacBook Pro 14"
    Mac14,6 :: M2 Pro MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac14,7 :: M2 MacBook Pro 13"

    Mac14,8 :: M2 Ultra Mac Pro

    Mac14,9 :: M2 Max MacBook Pro 14"
    Mac14,10 :: M2 Max MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac14,12 :: M2 Pro Mac mini
    Mac14,13 :: M2 Max Mac Studio
    Mac14,14 :: M2 Ultra Mac Studio

    Mac14,15 :: M2 MacBook Air 15"

    M3

    Mac15,3 :: M3 (8/10) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac 15,4 :: M3 (8/8) iMac (Two ports)
    Mac 15,5 :: M3 (8/10) iMac (Four ports)

    Mac15,6 :: M3 Pro (11/14) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,7 :: M3 Pro (12/18) MacBook Pro 16"
    Mac15,8 :: M3 Pro (12/18) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,9 :: M3 Max (14/30) MacBook Pro 16"
    Mac15,10 :: M3 Max (14/30) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,11 :: M3 Max (16/40) MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac15,12 :: M3 MacBook Air 13"
    Mac15,13 :: M3 MacBook Air 15"

    It's guesswork, but here's what I think the four in this most recent leak mean:

    M4 (projected)

    Mac16,1 :: M4 (8/8) iMac (Two ports)
    Mac16,2 :: M4 (10/10) iMac (Four ports)

    Mac16,3 :: M4 (10/10) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac16,10 :: M4 (10/10) Mac mini

    Thanks for the M2 list and M4 projections, tenthousandthings. Given that list, with regard to the M2 Studio (Mac14,13/Mac14,14), it does appear that the M4 Studio won’t be released any time soon, ditto the M4 Pro mini - if that numbering scheme persists to the M4 Studio and mini ranges. 

    Unfortunately for me, the Studio is now my preferred option given that it has a fan and a great big copper heatsink, as opposed to the (currently) fan-less mini; and my 11,3 mid-2010 27” i7 iMac is really on its last legs.

    Given the time- and (likely) feature-gaps between the M2 and M4 ranges, at this stage I don’t want to have to cough up for an M2 Studio, and definitely not an M2 mini, but I may have to if the iMac croaks before the release of the M4 (Max) Studio. I’m not sure that M2 trade-ins would be worth as much as I would like and/or need. If only money weren’t an object.
    My m2 pro Mac mini definitely has a fan
    nubusAlex1N
  • Reply 13 of 16
    Alex1N said:
    Given how these model names work, [...]
    Here's the identifiers (different from model numbers) since M2, when they began using "Mac" for all of them:

    M2

    Mac14,2 :: M2 MacBook Air 13"

    Mac14,3 :: M2 Mac mini

    Mac14,5 :: M2 Pro MacBook Pro 14"
    Mac14,6 :: M2 Pro MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac14,7 :: M2 MacBook Pro 13"

    Mac14,8 :: M2 Ultra Mac Pro

    Mac14,9 :: M2 Max MacBook Pro 14"
    Mac14,10 :: M2 Max MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac14,12 :: M2 Pro Mac mini
    Mac14,13 :: M2 Max Mac Studio
    Mac14,14 :: M2 Ultra Mac Studio

    Mac14,15 :: M2 MacBook Air 15"

    M3

    Mac15,3 :: M3 (8/10) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac 15,4 :: M3 (8/8) iMac (Two ports)
    Mac 15,5 :: M3 (8/10) iMac (Four ports)

    Mac15,6 :: M3 Pro (11/14) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,7 :: M3 Pro (12/18) MacBook Pro 16"
    Mac15,8 :: M3 Pro (12/18) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,9 :: M3 Max (14/30) MacBook Pro 16"
    Mac15,10 :: M3 Max (14/30) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac15,11 :: M3 Max (16/40) MacBook Pro 16"

    Mac15,12 :: M3 MacBook Air 13"
    Mac15,13 :: M3 MacBook Air 15"

    It's guesswork, but here's what I think the four in this most recent leak mean:

    M4 (projected)

    Mac16,1 :: M4 (8/8) iMac (Two ports)
    Mac16,2 :: M4 (10/10) iMac (Four ports)

    Mac16,3 :: M4 (10/10) MacBook Pro 14"

    Mac16,10 :: M4 (10/10) Mac mini

    Thanks for the M2 list and M4 projections, tenthousandthings. Given that list, with regard to the M2 Studio (Mac14,13/Mac14,14), it does appear that the M4 Studio won’t be released any time soon, ditto the M4 Pro mini - if that numbering scheme persists to the M4 Studio and mini ranges. 

    Unfortunately for me, the Studio is now my preferred option given that it has a fan and a great big copper heatsink, as opposed to the (currently) fan-less mini; and my 11,3 mid-2010 27” i7 iMac is really on its last legs.

    Given the time- and (likely) feature-gaps between the M2 and M4 ranges, at this stage I don’t want to have to cough up for an M2 Studio, and definitely not an M2 mini, but I may have to if the iMac croaks before the release of the M4 (Max) Studio. I’m not sure that M2 trade-ins would be worth as much as I would like and/or need. If only money weren’t an object.
    We don’t know how the “Mac” identifiers are assigned, and it’s hard to guess with only two full generations to extrapolate from.

    With regard to your interests, I think March is the latest we’ll see the M4 Max Studio, and October is the earliest we’ll see the M4 Pro Mini. I say that because I think M5 is coming at WWDC 2025 in the MacBook Air (Mac17,1 and Mac17,2—identifiers that have appeared in the macOS Sequoia developer builds) and so far Apple has not shown any inclination to launch the next generation before the current generation is complete. So M5 won’t launch before M4 Ultra. That means sooner rather than later.
    danox
  • Reply 14 of 16
    timmillea said:
    I have an M1 MBA 16gb/2TB and wonder how long I will have to wait before Apple produces something that will actually excite me enough to upgrade? 

    Regarding fans, once you have been fan-less, there is no going back. Like children, computers should be "seen and not heard". For studio sound recording, it means you no longer need a 'booth' and do you really want to be distracted by a change of fan speed, up or down, while writing? Silence is bliss and its value cannot be underestimated. 

    My next Mac will be a fan-less, small laptop with either 8 or 16 TB internal storage. A mini would be tempting except that an MBA can do everything a mini can do plus it is also a laptop. Otherwise, I could just buy an NVMe thunderbolt-connected 8TB and make my current M1 MBA last another 10 years. 
    Hear you. M series MBA’s are brilliant and anticipate keeping my new M3 for a long time. Apart from the silent operation, battery life is for me the most impressive thing in newer MacBooks. In my experience as a Mac user since the ‘90’s, the biggest increase in product lifespans came with the introduction of the SSD. A while ago now I had an MBP for work and an MBA at home (both 2011 models). The same Ram and storage but the little 11” MBA had an SSD and it massively outperformed the Pro, actually lasting until earlier this year when the NVRAM finally died, but otherwise it was still snappy chugging along with Photoshop, Office and Safari/Chrome windows open. Prior to the introduction of SSD’s, my Mac’s would become too bogged down to enjoy using after a few years.
    edited August 25 muthuk_vanalingambeowulfschmidtAlex1N
  • Reply 15 of 16
    Sounds like Mac mini and macbook air. FINALLY base RAM goes up to 16 GB. NEXT, Let’s see a move up from the Neanderthal 257 GB STORAGE.
  • Reply 16 of 16
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,666member
    timmillea said:
    I have an M1 MBA 16gb/2TB and wonder how long I will have to wait before Apple produces something that will actually excite me enough to upgrade? 

    Regarding fans, once you have been fan-less, there is no going back. Like children, computers should be "seen and not heard". For studio sound recording, it means you no longer need a 'booth' and do you really want to be distracted by a change of fan speed, up or down, while writing? Silence is bliss and its value cannot be underestimated. 
    You have not used one of the fan-cooled Apple Silicon Macs. They are silent, even when the fan comes on. 
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