Meta's Orion preview shines a light on Apple's spatial computing future

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While Meta might be playing fast and loose describing its Orion smart glasses as having the look and feel of a regular pair of glasses, it is a clear look at the future possibilities of Apple Vision.

Man wearing smart glasses with a serious expression, background of shelves and shadows.
Meta Orion are a pair of AR glasses that hope to pass as regular specs



Words used to mean something, like "Artificial Intelligence," "hologram," and "regular pair of glasses," but we're throwing out all pretense in light of Meta's latest announcement. These definitely "regular" looking spectacles promise to bring augmented reality computing to your face -- well, not your face exactly.

Orion isn't a public product. It is being revealed to show that Meta has made progress in the last five years towards, well, something.

No one is going to argue that these aren't likely the most advanced AR glasses revealed to date. Other products in the category struggle with interactions, require external computers, or are simple screens showing content from a different computer.

In its current state, Orion requires these, according to Meta, "lightweight, stylish glasses," with "holographic displays" to provide compelling AR experiences. The miniaturization and execution are no doubt impressive, but we could do with a little more honest language from Meta marketing.

In any case, Meta claims Orion has the largest field of view in the smallest AR glasses form factor to date. They accomplished this by relying on external sensors and computing.

The external wireless compute package fits in your pocket
The external wireless compute package fits in your pocket



Input is provided by an electromyography wearable wristband. Voice and eye tracking are also used as inputs. A small pocket component that's about the size of an eyeglass case contains the computing needs for the device.

So, you're using three devices to achieve one AR face wearable.

The definitely sleek, stylish, not-a-prototype Orion



Meta took a slight dig at Apple in its announcement:

But what makes Orion unique is that it is unmistakably a pair of glasses in both look and feel - complete with transparent lenses. Unlike MR headsets or other AR glasses today, you can still see other people's eyes and expressions, so you can be present and share the experience with the people around you.



Orion is described as "early days" with the glasses running Meta AI, which understands the world around you. However, Meta says Orion isn't a research prototype -- it's a "polished product prototype" that is "representative of something that could ship to consumers."

The company says it didn't want to rush a product to shelves. Orion will be used by Meta employees and select external audiences to help develop the product over the next few years.

Virtual interface with video call, chat messages, and recommended content overlaid in a modern living room with plants, a rug, and a round table.
One day you too will be able to have video calls from a face computer that isn't an Apple Vision Pro



The pitch seems to suggest Meta wants Apple Vision Pro-style computing, but without the ski goggles. It is a lofty goal that many companies are chasing, but now Meta is doing so publicly.

It's not clear if Google or another competitor will try to unveil their prototypes in the coming months to satisfy shareholders. There's definitely not a history of pre-announced product strategies like Google Glass, HoloLens, or Magic Leap.

It's not like each of those products made huge promises, failed to materialize a useful product, pivoted to enterprise, then disappeared into the background without notice.

Apple's spatial computing future



Apple Vision Pro launched in February 2024 with an enormous price tag and limited media support. Neither of those has changed in the months since, but that likely hasn't slowed Apple's development pipeline.

Smartglasses connected to a phone with 100% battery, showing an interface reading 'Wes's Apple Glass' against a blue gradient background.
Apple Glass could look similar to a regular pair of glasses



The ultimate goal of Apple Vision Pro and visionOS is to introduce the technologies in a lightweight pair of glasses we've dubbed Apple Glass. Meta's Orion is eerily similar to a paradigm that is expected for an initial Apple Glass launch.

Replace the wireless compute unit with an iPhone, the wristband with an Apple Watch, and the glasses with something a little more appealing, and you've got Apple's glasses strategy. At least, that seems to be the direction rumors have been pointing.

So, like with so many markets before it, Apple is surely appreciative of Meta prototyping a product in public. Reactions to the product and how it evolves over the next few years will help Apple's internal development with none of the risk.

As always, we'll have to wait and see how it all turns out. In the end, the consumer will win with an excellent AR face computer, let's just not think about the cost to our privacy and society to have Facebook leading the way in such an important paradigm shift.

Regardless of the jabs from Meta over the prototype Orion, Apple did ship its spatial computing platform to the public. It will be up to Meta to avoid the failures of other pre-announced prototype AR products and beat Apple to the punch.



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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 12
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,263member
    The only question for Meta is when are they going to quit quietly like Google Glasses, hardware and OS software just isn’t in their capability, these pictures look like a Zuckerberg dream prototype and perfectly illustrate the point that if you can’t get rid of the Qualcomm modem and create your own Arm SOC you got nothing in house to get to that size of product. Oh? And Apple has nothing to do with it the relationship is about as close as the Windows mobile phone or Blackberry is to the original iPhone.
    edited September 25
  • Reply 2 of 12
    You can't have open sides and expect anything other than AR to be happening. So it isn't really a future possibility for AVP.
    williamlondonFidonet127
  • Reply 3 of 12
    Wesley HilliardWesley Hilliard Posts: 237member, administrator, moderator, editor
    You can't have open sides and expect anything other than AR to be happening. So it isn't really a future possibility for AVP.
    visionOS is a spatial computing platform that currently runs on Apple Vision Pro. The Vision platform is currently only home to the headset, but it will one day be used for multiple product types. Apple Glass will be an AR platform that is lightweight, but it will still run visionOS. Vision Pro will exist in tandem as a more powerful, less portable, more immersive product.

    Think of it like iPhone and Mac today.
    lolliverdanox
  • Reply 4 of 12
    danox said:
    The only question for Meta is when are they going to quit quietly like Google Glasses, hardware and OS software just isn’t in their capability, these pictures look like a Zuckerberg dream prototype and perfectly illustrate the point that if you can’t get rid of the Qualcomm modem and create your own Arm SOC you got nothing in house to get to that size of product. Oh? And Apple has nothing to do with it the relationship is about as close as the Windows mobile phone or Blackberry is to the original iPhone.
    Indeed the only way to even get close to the material thickness that would make these close to desirable would be to have a fully custom single plank of chip that can use the arm as the support. 

    Even the cameras need to be looking through the lens to stop the frames looking stupid..
    danox
  • Reply 5 of 12
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,263member
    mattinoz said:
    danox said:
    The only question for Meta is when are they going to quit quietly like Google Glasses, hardware and OS software just isn’t in their capability, these pictures look like a Zuckerberg dream prototype and perfectly illustrate the point that if you can’t get rid of the Qualcomm modem and create your own Arm SOC you got nothing in house to get to that size of product. Oh? And Apple has nothing to do with it the relationship is about as close as the Windows mobile phone or Blackberry is to the original iPhone.
    Indeed the only way to even get close to the material thickness that would make these close to desirable would be to have a fully custom single plank of chip that can use the arm as the support. 

    Even the cameras need to be looking through the lens to stop the frames looking stupid..
    In order to miniaturize and control the power output of all of the hardware built into something so small requires complete control over everything inside and out in such a device hardware and software, right now other than Apple and maybe one of the Japanese companies (Sony?) who can definitely do hardware but can’t do the OS level software at least not to anywhere near the same level as Apple. 
  • Reply 6 of 12
    This is probably the most sarcastic article I've read in apple insider and I've read a few d.e.d. rants :wink:. While vision pro is a released product by your own admission its not going anywhere currently. And despite the dorky look Orion looks to be an impressive engineering feat. I am never going buy a meta hardware for the 'said' reasons, but Zuck has a lot more determination and focus than Google ever did.

  • Reply 7 of 12
    Not everything Apple makes is going to be a hit: HomePod, AirPods Max, AVP. The AVP is a huge gambit, but not something ready for mainstream yet. And likely will never be until it’s an order of magnitude cheaper, more lightweight and, well, less goggly and tangly. 

    The Meta thing is like an iPhone 25 mockup. About as equally far from reality. 
  • Reply 8 of 12
    Looks like BCGs


    edited 9:14AM
  • Reply 9 of 12
    avon b7avon b7 Posts: 7,964member
    There's definitely a nod to Brains from Thunderbirds there! 
  • Reply 10 of 12
    y2any2an Posts: 208member
    ‘Holographic’ here might refer to the glass having an embedded hologram of a mirror which with the right geometry provides high levels of reflection for a rear projected off-axis display, something which can’t be done with half-silvered glass. Although I’ve only seen this monochromatically, I would guess the technology has advanced to colour. 
  • Reply 11 of 12
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,263member
    bala1234 said:
    This is probably the most sarcastic article I've read in apple insider and I've read a few d.e.d. rants :wink:. While vision pro is a released product by your own admission its not going anywhere currently. And despite the dorky look Orion looks to be an impressive engineering feat. I am never going buy a meta hardware for the 'said' reasons, but Zuck has a lot more determination and focus than Google ever did.

    Answer the question if Meta had the hardware/OS chops to fit inside of those dream prototype glasses as shown in a picture, they can build not only those glasses, but they could build also build top of the line laptops, smartphones, tablets and watches. Where are those items and where is that modem? Note, Microsoft and Google have been struggling over the last few years in some of those categories and Meta isn’t even in their zip code other than having plenty of money to spend/waste.

    The only thing that Zuckerberg has going for himself is that he’s the owner founder of the company with complete control but not even that’s gonna help.
    edited 1:18PM
  • Reply 12 of 12
    MarvinMarvin Posts: 15,436moderator
    y2an said:
    ‘Holographic’ here might refer to the glass having an embedded hologram of a mirror which with the right geometry provides high levels of reflection for a rear projected off-axis display, something which can’t be done with half-silvered glass. Although I’ve only seen this monochromatically, I would guess the technology has advanced to colour. 
    The description here says they use small projectors in the legs that point into the waveguide lenses:

    https://mashable.com/article/meta-ar-glasses-reveal

    The videos below describe the technology, they mention they are working with some of the big companies like Meta:





    The main issue with these is image quality because it's semi-transparent. It would be good if they could put a blocking lens on the outer layer like some kind of OLED or e-ink display that physically blocks light behind the virtual content so that it doesn't need to be so bright to counter the light coming into the lens. When it projects a movie, it can block just the rectangle behind the movie but leave the rest of the view clear.

    Fully opaque content is the main advantage of VR and passthrough AR. That was one of Apple's marketing lines for Vision Pro - it seamless blends the real world and the digital world. If this technology can get fully opaque then it would be a good way to go but semi-transparent is no good, it's too hard to read text, too distracting, no good for movies or photos, no good for immersion (no immersive environments).
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