Apple may not be making a Smart Ring right now after all

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Despite years of rumors and an extensive body of patents regarding a smart Apple Ring, a new report claims the company has no plans to actually release one.

A sleek, silver metallic ring with a smooth finish, featuring a small logo cutout, is placed on a textured dark surface.
A render of a ring with the Apple logo.



Apple has been researching smart rings for two decades -- or at least there have been rumors for that long -- but now we'll have to hold our breath for a lot longer. According to Bloomberg, the issue is less technical, and more pragmatic marketing.

"Apple isn't actively developing a ring and has no plans to launch one," wrote Mark Gurman, "[because it] would detract from the Apple Watch."

"[Consequently, Apple] has no reason to cannibalize a product that still has room to grow," he continued, "and is the envy of the fitness-tracking industry."

More than most firms, however, Apple does have a reputation for doing exactly that cannibalization. The most famous example is how it entirely destroyed its own iPod with the iPhone.

Amongst the many rumors regarding the Apple Ring, there have also been ones where it could work alongside the Apple Watch. For instance, it's possible that wearing both the Apple Ring and the Apple Watch together might improve the accuracy of heart rate measurement, as the Oura ring currently does.

Then according to multiple patents over the last many years, there has also been research into gesture control, perhaps related to the use of the Apple Vision Pro. So it's repeatedly been expected that the Apple Ring would fit into the existing Apple ecosystem as a complementary accessory rather than a replacement.

If the report is correct, however, this makes 2024's second cancellation of a device that has become high-profile without Apple actually announcing it. In February 2024, it was reported that the decade-long Apple Car project had been entirely cancelled.

In that case, there is no competing Apple device that it would cannibalize. But otherwise there are striking similarities, with Apple's research efforts into a car continuing to be documented in newly granted patents.



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  • Reply 1 of 13
    One ring to rule them all is still in development. 
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    apple4thewinwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 2 of 13
    Or they never did and the tech press was duped again.

    you choose.
    StrangeDayswilliamlondontiredskillsDAalsethwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 3 of 13
    Whenever I see rings vs watches I also see people that love their Apple Watch but don't want to wear it to  sleep in. I'm sure there would be some people that would forgo the watch for the ring but most I think would buy both. I'm no marketing guy but it seems like a win win to me.
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  • Reply 4 of 13
    make the gosh darn ring, I am sick of my son showing me all of his brand new fancy Samsung gear-whatever happened to @Apple being the innovator-I think it’s actually starting to disappoint me…
    williamlondonwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 5 of 13
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,731member
    Apple is probably correct in thinking a ring would cannibalize smartwatch sales. I've looked at the Oura more than once, (even bought the fitment kit) but coming to the conclusion each time that, other than perhaps more accurate sleep data, it could not collect all the health and fitness data a smartwatch can. And it's not as though wearing my watch at night, and the sleep data it collects, isn't sufficiently complete anyway.

    IMO, it would be a silly purchase with little value if you already wear a newer smartwatch. Now, if money is no object, go for it, have both. Most people would choose one or the other. 
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  • Reply 6 of 13
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,387member
    "More than most firms, however, Apple does have a reputation for doing exactly that cannibalization. The most famous example is how it entirely destroyed its own iPod with the iPhone."

    That's, um, an interesting perspective.

    It seems like an entirely different thing to replace iPod with iPhone, which does everything iPod did, plus a lot more, subsequently costs more and makes the company more, as opposed to introduce a ring that does less, should presumably cost less and be less profitable, but might nonetheless cut into sales of the Apple Watch.

    A more similar analog would be the introduction of the watch itself and its potential to cut into sales of iPhone. In that instance, even with a watch that can independently function as a phone ultimately doesn't undercut the iPhone itself. It's a convenience to be able to go running with the watch by itself and still stay on the grid, but that utility doesn't work out to be enough to warrant skipping the iPhone altogether. It's easier to imagine some percentage of folks opting for a ring in place of a watch, because at least for some, a ring health sensor in conjunction with an iPhone might not sacrifice a whole lot of perceived functionality of having  watch and a phone. 
    edited October 2024
    gatorguyavon b7ctt_zhmuthuk_vanalingamwilliamlondonForumPostwatto_cobra
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  • Reply 7 of 13
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,171member
    darbus69 said:
    make the gosh darn ring, I am sick of my son showing me all of his brand new fancy Samsung gear-whatever happened to @Apple being the innovator-I think it’s actually starting to disappoint me…
    You're confusing "First!" with value. Novel junk is still junk. 

    Flip it around and you could say the same -- Apple has the best-in-class VR headset ever created, therefore they are an innovator and the other cell phone makers aren't. 
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  • Reply 8 of 13
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,171member
    gatorguy said:
    Apple is probably correct in thinking a ring would cannibalize smartwatch sales. 
    And yet, there are numerous examples and quotes from execs repeatedly stating that is not how they operate or make product decisions (usually related to iPads & MBs). They would be happy to lose a sale for a product to...themselves, with another product. Such reasoning simply isn't how they operate their roadmap so it's always silly when outsiders claim that's their reasoning.

    The real question is whether they feel whatever concepts they have deliver actual value.
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  • Reply 9 of 13
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,683member
    So………Call back in 2035.
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 10 of 13
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,731member
    gatorguy said:
    Apple is probably correct in thinking a ring would cannibalize smartwatch sales. 
    And yet, there are numerous examples and quotes from execs repeatedly stating that is not how they operate or make product decisions...  They would be happy to lose a sale for a product to...themselves, with another product. Such reasoning simply isn't how they operate their roadmap so it's always silly when outsiders claim that's their reasoning.

    The real question is whether they feel whatever concepts they have deliver actual value.
    Don't we have examples of execs saying stuff that, in hindsight, may not have been what the leadership actually believed? Yes, I'm quite familiar with the official cannibalization comments from Cook and Jobs. But they don't always mean what they say, ie big phone, stylus, targeted ads.

    But as for your "value" comment, I would 100% agree.

    I
    don't believe a ring would add much value over the existing Apple Watch. Yet it definitely introduces buyer confusion, potential customers waffling on what to get, and comparisons on price and features with smart-ring products they have no market reason to compete with. I believe it risks a reduction in Apple Watch sales for a ring instead, and not necessarily an Apple-branded one.  Is that cannibalizing watch sales? To me, it would be. 
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  • Reply 11 of 13
    Wesley_Hilliardwesley_hilliard Posts: 456member, administrator, moderator, editor
    Or they never did and the tech press was duped again.

    you choose.
    Ah yes, duped once again by the US Patent system where Apple filed many on smart rings. Where did we go wrong?
    watto_cobra
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  • Reply 12 of 13
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,424member
    This whole cannibalization idea doesn't remotely pass the logic test. Let's consider that the cheapest model in any Apple product line could be said to be cannibalizing sales of the more expensive and more profitable models. So should Apple stop making cheaper models and just sell the more expensive ones? Of course not. The models target different markets of people, even though the core functionality of the models in a product line--let's use the iPhone as an example--is essentially the same. So if cannibalization isn't a problem in that example, how could it possibly be an issue with two very different products, a watch and a ring, in which core functionality is not the same? This is like saying that we can't grow apples because they'll cannibalize the sale of oranges. I have no doubt there's a sizable market of people who would like the health and fitness tracking offered by Apple Watch, but don't want the watch. Apple doesn't sell to those people right now, but a ring would open up that market. Meanwhile, Apple Watch has a whole raft of useful, iPhone-like capabilities that a ring would lack--not to mention that it's a flippin' WATCH, not a ring--so the idea that some sizeable number of Watch buyers are going to say, "No, thanks" and opt for a ring instead makes no sense. 
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  • Reply 13 of 13
    I actually sent an email years ago to Tim Cook (tcook@apple.com.)  saying I thought this would be a great idea. People could pay using their ring and it would record all activities. He never even emailed me back. 
    watto_cobra
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