The Vivo X5 Max that came out a decade ago was 4.75mm thin and not only did it have a SIM, it had a Dual Sim where the second SIM slot could also be used for a MicroSD card.
If they find that a SIM card slot is now unnecessary then all power to them. But it's really fascinating that they instead spew lies making it appear that the device is just way too thin for a SIM card, and worse, expect people to lap it up without ever realizing that Apple is just blatantly insulting their intelligence.
I'm not going to bother with a list of functionality, features and technology that a modern smartphone has that didn't exist a decade ago. I guess they believe the space that would be required for the tray is better consumed by something else.
The Vivo X5 Max that came out a decade ago was 4.75mm thin and not only did it have a SIM, it had a Dual Sim where the second SIM slot could also be used for a MicroSD card.
If they find that a SIM card slot is now unnecessary then all power to them. But it's really fascinating that they instead spew lies making it appear that the device is just way too thin for a SIM card, and worse, expect people to lap it up without ever realizing that Apple is just blatantly insulting their intelligence.
Is the Vivo X5Max 4.75 mm or 5.1 mm? Conflicting news articles abound. Even GSMArena's review has the numbers mixed up.
If you read the article, or any article about this rumored iPhone, you'd know that Apple has not said anything about this iPhone, and haven't claimed anything about it. The rumors are entirely based on supply chain parts, and virtually every leaker comes up with made-up reasons for why Apple does this or that. In short, they don't know why Apple does things, only that there are parts floating around the supply chain. So, the leakers are bullshitting you, not Apple.
The rumors are that this iPhone is 5 to 6 mm thick. Some leakers come up with stupid reasons why it will be thicker, like they can't make a battery thin enough to go into a 5 mm, never mind that Apple is already shipping hundreds of thousands to millions of much larger batteries going into the iPad Pro 13" models.
AI isn't saying that this iPhone is too thin to have SIM trays. That's an incorrect conclusion from your reading of the article. Apple has already shipped millions of devices without SIM trays and they are about 7 to 8 mm thick. Apple is likely doing this for reliability, user experience, and ease of manufacturing reasons, not because of this or that device being too thin.
The Vivo X5 Max that came out a decade ago was 4.75mm thin and not only did it have a SIM, it had a Dual Sim where the second SIM slot could also be used for a MicroSD card.
If they find that a SIM card slot is now unnecessary then all power to them. But it's really fascinating that they instead spew lies making it appear that the device is just way too thin for a SIM card, and worse, expect people to lap it up without ever realizing that Apple is just blatantly insulting their intelligence.
Phones are different today. That phone was pretty primitive by today’s specs. Today’s phones need to put much more inside the phone than they did then. There are a number of antennas around the periphery of the phone that didn’t exist then. Also bigger, flatter batteries as well as wireless charging. You’re making a comparison to something that sold very poorly when it’s came out because it really wasn’t a good phone to begin with. Anyone can cut features down to make a phone thinner. Making it good is another matter.
The Vivo X5 Max that came out a decade ago was 4.75mm thin and not only did it have a SIM, it had a Dual Sim where the second SIM slot could also be used for a MicroSD card.
If they find that a SIM card slot is now unnecessary then all power to them. But it's really fascinating that they instead spew lies making it appear that the device is just way too thin for a SIM card, and worse, expect people to lap it up without ever realizing that Apple is just blatantly insulting their intelligence.
Is the Vivo X5Max 4.75 mm or 5.1 mm? Conflicting news articles abound. Even GSMArena's review has the numbers mixed up.
If you read the article, or any article about this rumored iPhone, you'd know that Apple has not said anything about this iPhone, and haven't claimed anything about it. The rumors are entirely based on supply chain parts, and virtually every leaker comes up with made-up reasons for why Apple does this or that. In short, they don't know why Apple does things, only that there are parts floating around the supply chain. So, the leakers are bullshitting you, not Apple.
The rumors are that this iPhone is 5 to 6 mm thick. Some leakers come up with stupid reasons why it will be thicker, like they can't make a battery thin enough to go into a 5 mm, never mind that Apple is already shipping hundreds of thousands to millions of much larger batteries going into the iPad Pro 13" models.
AI isn't saying that this iPhone is too thin to have SIM trays. That's an incorrect conclusion from your reading of the article. Apple has already shipped millions of devices without SIM trays and they are about 7 to 8 mm thick. Apple is likely doing this for reliability, user experience, and ease of manufacturing reasons, not because of this or that device being too thin.
I just came from YouTube where an Apple oriented channel was discussing this not yet real phone as it were a done deal. An an analyst, or sometimes a second one will later get into the act, claims a phone is going to me made. Maybe they’re right and maybe not. Even the best have predicted something that didn’t happen. But even if it dies, we don’t know the actual specs. Apple was the first to drop sims. The baby sim was their design, back when Nokia wanted their idea to be adopted and said that if Apple’s was, they wouldn’t support it.
when Apple came out with the electronic sim, everyone (well, many people) were unhappy because it didn’t support many sims. Now it supports eight with three active at once. All the reasons to support physical sims is going away, with most carriers around the world now supporting this technology (which again, is Apple’s, initially).
so all of the nonsense we get regarding these things is just a few people wanting to voice their usual criticisms of whatever Apple does. That’s fine. Apple will happily cruise along without them as it always has. I know these people,e don’t believe that there are others who actually would want a phone credit card thin. I’m not one of them, but they’re out there.
Sigh, who cares? Can we please get an iPhone XX mini instead? Slimness is not a trait that matters anymore, nor does it make sense ergonomically, and the camera bump will stick out even more . Steve Jobs is turning over in his grave.
Interesting response. I was just getting ready to post that the iPhone Air, Thin, Slender, Malnourished, Anorexic, Junior, or whatever they decide to call it, if released, will probably have a small number of very ardent followers and last one to two release cycles before Apple decides that it's not worth the effort. If battery technology changes dramatically, who knows.
But thin isn't always "in" and at times is less attractive than something with a little more heft and at least a perception of ruggedness. Look at today's pickup trucks, even the lowest end models (half-ton) are about the size of a stream locomotive from the 1900s and look like they're designed to go into battle with only a camo paint scheme required. They can't build them fast enough to meet demand and can't price them high enough to reduce demand.
Now look at the remotes that Apple has shipped with all Apple TVs. They are sized for a child's hand and are slim enough to get lost in the couch cushions, in your dog's stomach, or under a bag of chips. If you sit on one you won't even feel it because it's wafer thin. Add to that, it's as slippery as a wet catfish. If Apple produces an iPhone with those same attributes: small, wafer thin, and slippery, good luck keeping it in your hand or realizing it's in your back pocket before you sit on it and snap it like a cracker.
Even if they build it, I'll just stick with the massive Pro Max models that feel as solid as a glass brick house and help me burn more calories while walking. Give me enough battery life to last a week and to jump start my car in an emergency. I've adjusted my wardrobe to wear cargo pants every day and night, i.e., cargo pajamas, and love having all of those camera lenses sticking out the back like a potato grater. And no, I have no fear of sitting on it because I have to place a counterweight in my other pocket to keep myself on the level. If it's not stowed properly, I'm going over.
All kidding aside, I expect a Thin iPhone will eventually occupy a grave adjacent to the iPhone mini's grave in Apple's walled graveyard of discontinued products.
The Vivo X5 Max that came out a decade ago was 4.75mm thin and not only did it have a SIM, it had a Dual Sim where the second SIM slot could also be used for a MicroSD card.
If they find that a SIM card slot is now unnecessary then all power to them. But it's really fascinating that they instead spew lies making it appear that the device is just way too thin for a SIM card, and worse, expect people to lap it up without ever realizing that Apple is just blatantly insulting their intelligence.
Ummm… helpful suggestion: maybe try READING an article before rage-posting about it? See, reading first would have informed you that Apple actually said NOTHING. All of it is from an unnamed “source” at The Information, which for all we know might be the nighttime janitor. In fact, Apple has never said a word about an iPhone Slim even existing. It’s all rumor and, thus far, none of the rumors have been able to offer a credible explanation of what the device IS… unless you believe that people are going to want to buy a premium-priced but under-spec’d new iPhone because it’s 1.8mm thinner than an iPhone 16. In fact, LOL, all we keep hearing about this new, more expensive iPhone is features it’s NOT going to have. And if you believe THAT will selI, I have a bridge for you….
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I'm not going to bother with a list of functionality, features and technology that a modern smartphone has that didn't exist a decade ago. I guess they believe the space that would be required for the tray is better consumed by something else.
If you read the article, or any article about this rumored iPhone, you'd know that Apple has not said anything about this iPhone, and haven't claimed anything about it. The rumors are entirely based on supply chain parts, and virtually every leaker comes up with made-up reasons for why Apple does this or that. In short, they don't know why Apple does things, only that there are parts floating around the supply chain. So, the leakers are bullshitting you, not Apple.
The rumors are that this iPhone is 5 to 6 mm thick. Some leakers come up with stupid reasons why it will be thicker, like they can't make a battery thin enough to go into a 5 mm, never mind that Apple is already shipping hundreds of thousands to millions of much larger batteries going into the iPad Pro 13" models.
AI isn't saying that this iPhone is too thin to have SIM trays. That's an incorrect conclusion from your reading of the article. Apple has already shipped millions of devices without SIM trays and they are about 7 to 8 mm thick. Apple is likely doing this for reliability, user experience, and ease of manufacturing reasons, not because of this or that device being too thin.
when Apple came out with the electronic sim, everyone (well, many people) were unhappy because it didn’t support many sims. Now it supports eight with three active at once. All the reasons to support physical sims is going away, with most carriers around the world now supporting this technology (which again, is Apple’s, initially).
so all of the nonsense we get regarding these things is just a few people wanting to voice their usual criticisms of whatever Apple does. That’s fine. Apple will happily cruise along without them as it always has. I know these people,e don’t believe that there are others who actually would want a phone credit card thin. I’m not one of them, but they’re out there.
But thin isn't always "in" and at times is less attractive than something with a little more heft and at least a perception of ruggedness. Look at today's pickup trucks, even the lowest end models (half-ton) are about the size of a stream locomotive from the 1900s and look like they're designed to go into battle with only a camo paint scheme required. They can't build them fast enough to meet demand and can't price them high enough to reduce demand.
Now look at the remotes that Apple has shipped with all Apple TVs. They are sized for a child's hand and are slim enough to get lost in the couch cushions, in your dog's stomach, or under a bag of chips. If you sit on one you won't even feel it because it's wafer thin. Add to that, it's as slippery as a wet catfish. If Apple produces an iPhone with those same attributes: small, wafer thin, and slippery, good luck keeping it in your hand or realizing it's in your back pocket before you sit on it and snap it like a cracker.
Even if they build it, I'll just stick with the massive Pro Max models that feel as solid as a glass brick house and help me burn more calories while walking. Give me enough battery life to last a week and to jump start my car in an emergency. I've adjusted my wardrobe to wear cargo pants every day and night, i.e., cargo pajamas, and love having all of those camera lenses sticking out the back like a potato grater. And no, I have no fear of sitting on it because I have to place a counterweight in my other pocket to keep myself on the level. If it's not stowed properly, I'm going over.
All kidding aside, I expect a Thin iPhone will eventually occupy a grave adjacent to the iPhone mini's grave in Apple's walled graveyard of discontinued products.