Apple talks up privacy, yet spies on its own staff, says lawsuit

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An Apple employee is suing the company, claiming that it forces staff to give up personal privacy, and demands that it be allowed to use surveillance even when they are at home.

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Earlier in 2024, a former Apple software engineer made increasingly paranoid claims about the company, and ultimately threatened the FBI if they didn't investigate. According to New York-based Semafor, a current Apple employee is making similar claims about Apple surveillance, and doing so in a lawsuit.

Amar Bhakta works in advertising technology at Apple and according to his LinkedIn page, has done so since August 2020. However, that LinkedIn page is part of Bhatka's suit as he alleges that Apple forced him to remove information about his job from it.

"For Apple employees, the Apple ecosystem is not a walled garden," says the lawsuit brought by Chris Baker of Baker Dolinko & Schwartz, and Jahan Sagafi, of Outten & Golden. "It is a prison yard. A panopticon where employees, both on and off duty, are subject to Apple's all-seeing eye."

Apple reportedly forbade Bhakta from speaking at public events about his digital advertising field. Staff are said to also be required to use only Apple devices while at work, and are in some unspecified way encouraged to use their personal devices.

Once they do use a personal device and personal iCloud account as part of their work, Apple allegedly requires them to agree to the company monitoring everything.

"If you use your personal account on an Apple-managed or Apple-owned iPhone, iPad or computer, any data stored on the device (including emails, photos, video, notes and more), are subject to search by Apple," the lawsuit claims Apple's policies state.

Apple denies all of the claims in the suit. "Every employee has the right to discuss their wages, hours and working conditions," it said in a statement, "and this is part of our business conduct policy, which all employees are trained on annually."

What happens next



The suit has been filed under the California Private Attorneys General Act. While it has been filed on behalf of Bhakta, if Apple is found to be liable, it could be forced to pay penalties to him and to every employee believed to be affected.

However, based on the details reported so far, the chances of Bhakta winning the case are as low as those of him keeping his job at Apple. While there may be elements in the full suit that have yet to be made public, everything listed so far is common practice -- even if it sounds draconian.

Apple refusing to allow Bhakta to take public speaking engagements related to his field, for instance, would frustrate any staff. And it is true that people joining Apple have given up outside work or, for instance, websites.

But anything Bhakta said would have be taken to be Apple's position. So it's understandable and predicatable that he be not allowed to effectively represent the firm.

Apple is not spying on its staff



The key part of the surveillance claim is that the quote policy explicitly refers to "an Apple-managed or Apple-owned" device. No corporation allows unknown devices onto its networks where privileged information is held.

Having your device on a Mobile Device Management system does not mean that Apple is spying on its staff's every move. Bhakta's lawyers could conceivably take the stance that Apple is preaching privacy while denying it to its own staff, but that would be playing to the court of public opinion instead of using the facts.

As for Apple forcing Bhakta to remove details from his LinkedIn page, it's not clear whether that means his profile or his conversations on the service.

Bhakta is unusually vocal on LinkedIn for an Apple employee, and his profile bio is more detailed than is typical. If he didn't inadvertently reveal company secrets on the service, it will be simple for Apple to claim that he did.

Separately, an internal report in 2022 said that Apple does not stifle employee speech. It claimed that instead, Apple exceeds what the law requires for free speech.



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Comments

  • Reply 1 of 11
    I work at a large semi-conductor company. Same policy, which is why I have 2 phones. One for work, that’s on the work network and subject to their watch, and one for personal that they cannot touch. Sounds like a bogus lawsuit, this is standard in big tech. Too much IP that can be leaked/stolen and they need accountability 
    lordjohnwhorfinnubus13485watto_cobra
  • Reply 2 of 11
    He seems quite mistaken about his right to privacy as a US employee…
    Electronicistwatto_cobra
  • Reply 3 of 11
    badmonkbadmonk Posts: 1,340member
    considering the extent of corporate and Chinese espionage, he doesn’t have a case.
    watto_cobra
  • Reply 4 of 11
    nubusnubus Posts: 656member
    I work at a large semi-conductor company. Same policy, which is why I have 2 phones. One for work, that’s on the work network and subject to their watch, and one for personal that they cannot touch. Sounds like a bogus lawsuit, this is standard in big tech. Too much IP that can be leaked/stolen and they need accountability 
    Indeed - and at some agencies/companies your phone must be left outside. Apple shouldn't:
    1. Demand for employees to bring their own devices.
    2. Demand for employees to login to corporate devices using private accounts.
    3. Monitor home networks - unless Apple does pay for for the network connection.
    4. Monitor any traffic to news@appleinsider.com :smile: 
  • Reply 5 of 11
    I just read his LinkedIn profile and it seems like any other on the platform. There is nothing in his job description at Apple that gives away any trade secrets.

    https://www.linkedin.com/in/amarbhakta?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_app
  • Reply 6 of 11
    I work at a large semi-conductor company. Same policy, which is why I have 2 phones. One for work, that’s on the work network and subject to their watch, and one for personal that they cannot touch. Sounds like a bogus lawsuit, this is standard in big tech. Too much IP that can be leaked/stolen and they need accountability 
    It has been reported before that Apple encourages employees to use their own personal Apple accounts at work.
    Electronicisthammeroftruthwatto_cobra
  • Reply 7 of 11
    davendaven Posts: 734member
    After he loses this lawsuit and gets fired he will sue Apple for firing him.
    Electronicistwatto_cobra
  • Reply 8 of 11
    1984 to 2024, Look how far we've come!



    M68000DAalseth
  • Reply 9 of 11
    As a former US government employee, I see nothing unusual about this, but it certainly is annoying. But really, an Apple corporate employee who can't afford to buy his own iPhone/iPad/MacBook with his employee discount?

    The only concern I had was when my then employer decreed that agency email (run from an Exchange server, so it couldn't be forwarded) should only be read on an Agency-owned device. That became an issue when on foreign travel (you had to have approvals up to the Headquarters level), and standard advice on travel to certain countries (fortunately, ones I didn't have to visit on TDY) included purchasing burner phones/laptops before departing on the trip — and dumping them before returning to the US.

    In my case, I was fortunate, that the operational work I was involved in was served by a mail server we were allowed to operate for mission-related communications without the official prohibition, since it was an international mission and we had numerous foreign partners with whom we had to communicate operational information. So I could happily go on foreign travel without a government-owned device and wait until I got back to work to read the stupid management pet tricks (30 or 40 online training notices per year, a dozen or more pointless, non communicative missives from management, notices about jewelry sales at the cafeterias [seriously], &c.). Or, more likely, just can them.
    Electronicist
  • Reply 10 of 11
    y2any2an Posts: 231member
    I’ve been quite alarmed at the proprietary and confidential details in Linked In profiles of some former colleagues and their reach-outs for hiring. Any company has every reason to care about what employees put out in public about their work.
    13485watto_cobra
  • Reply 11 of 11
    eriamjheriamjh Posts: 1,780member
    I’ve known a few people who went to work for AAPL and not updating your LinkedIn profile that one works at AAPL is a standard T&C.   You can update it after you quit.  

    Social media and working on secret stuff does not go hand in hand.   

    Any Apple fan knows how Apple has to keep everything under wraps.  Just knowing a person from a certain company is now working at Apple is a hint to the competition of why Apple hired that person.   

    I understand the loss of privacy having work stuff on one’s private phone.  He should not have selected that option.  Mistake number one. 

    People aren’t lining up behind this guy to support or defend him.  Apple isn’t the IBM guy acting as big brother.  They’re trying to make sure no one is leaking secrets or stealing them.    They don’t have time to care what else you do.  
    13485watto_cobra
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