MagSafe isn’t just an array of magnets though. It’s a technical specification for wireless charging. Adding magnets to a case doesn’t make a phone MagSafe. It’s compatible with MagSafe, but the phone is still Qi(1) that is limited to 7.5w — while the MagSafe of the iPhone 16 (no-suffix/Plus/Pro/Pro Max) can go up to 25w. The difference between 25w and 7.5w is quite significant. I know not everybody cares about wireless charging (and that’s perfectly fine), but… 25w vs 7.5w is a notable difference.
That's why I said Spigen offers "magnetic charging cases". I know it is not MagSafe, and that Apple is not going to give the nice swirly animation or the maximum charging output. I quoted William complaining about the loss of convenience of just popping it on the stand, and pointed out that this capability is not gone when paired with any magnetic charging case. Most people who use MagSafe with a stand charge their phone overnight while the phone is in Nightstand mode. They don't care how fast it charges overnight. People know the fastest way to charge a phone is to plug it in and that true MagSafe is slower, while non-MagSafe induction charging is slowest.
MagSafe isn’t just an array of magnets though. It’s a technical specification for wireless charging. Adding magnets to a case doesn’t make a phone MagSafe. It’s compatible with MagSafe, but the phone is still Qi(1) that is limited to 7.5w — while the MagSafe of the iPhone 16 (no-suffix/Plus/Pro/Pro Max) can go up to 25w. The difference between 25w and 7.5w is quite significant. I know not everybody cares about wireless charging (and that’s perfectly fine), but… 25w vs 7.5w is a notable difference.
That's why I said Spigen offers "magnetic charging cases". I know it is not MagSafe, and that Apple is not going to give the nice swirly animation or the maximum charging output. I quoted William complaining about the loss of convenience of just popping it on the stand, and pointed out that this capability is not gone when paired with any magnetic charging case. Most people who use MagSafe with a stand charge their phone overnight while the phone is in Nightstand mode. They don't care how fast it charges overnight. People know the fastest way to charge a phone is to plug it in and that true MagSafe is slower, while non-MagSafe induction charging is slowest.
I don’t want to belabor the point too much, but you also said “Cases offer MagSafe”, which is why I said “Adding magnets to a case doesn’t make a phone MagSafe.”
I understand now that you didn’t actually mean the case was MagSafe. You simply just used “MagSafe” interchangeable with “magnetic charging”. Which is perfectly-understandable. Even product listings do that all the time. At this point it’s almost like calling every box of tissues “Kleenex”, right? lol
Or just how Apple has specifically and directly told Gruber that its market doesn't care about MagSafe. Charging speeds and methods do get more attention from long-term or technical users than they do from regular consumers. Nobody really cares about the difference between 7.5W and 15W, because nobody really notices
OK, but when they rolled out MagSafe that was true of pretty much all iPhone users. Nobody had used it. Nobody had seen the difference between 7.5W and 15W. Nobody cared about it until they tried it. Saying 16e users don’t know any better seems a bit dismissive.
I feel compelled to respond because apparently, I am the exact target market for th eiPhone 16e. I purchased the morning they went on sale and just received it today. I have been using an iPhone 12 RED since new and the batttry can't seem to make it through a day anymore. I went to Apple to get a new battery figuring it would be about $100 or so but was unable to get it done because I turned off FindMy too close to my appointment time. The whole idea of spending over $1,000 for a new phone is just crazy to me. Yes, I like the latest technology but there are some things I don't need or even notice. For example, I have absolutely no problem with any screens that refresh at 60Hz. I prefer TVs with 60Hz too. I don't play video games so the missing core on the 16e doesn't affect me. 95% of the photos on my phone are work related or pics of documents so as long as a phone HAS a camera, I'm good. I hated the fact it didn't come in any colors but I'll just put a cover on it to make it the color I want; If I wirelessly charge it's sitting flat on my PC (with built in wireless charging) at work during the day so why would I need anything magnetic? Besides, I prefer the click of the plug that confirms it's connected. The fact I could trade my iPhone12 and only need to pay $550 out of pocket means I got a brand new iPhone with double the storage, that can run the latest iOS and can hold a charge all day long for half the price of a new iPhone. So while others are questioning its value against an SE or iPhone 14, I was happy to fork over the cash for everything I get with the iPhone 16e.
Or just how Apple has specifically and directly told Gruber that its market doesn't care about MagSafe. Charging speeds and methods do get more attention from long-term or technical users than they do from regular consumers. Nobody really cares about the difference between 7.5W and 15W, because nobody really notices
OK, but when they rolled out MagSafe that was true of pretty much all iPhone users. Nobody had used it. Nobody had seen the difference between 7.5W and 15W. Nobody cared about it until they tried it. Saying 16e users don’t know any better seems a bit dismissive.
I think the point is there’s a subset of users for whom it doesn’t matter. I’m one of those - I use inductive charging only sporadically. For me, the best thing about MagSafe is the MagSafe wallet I got for my phone and that really doesn’t need MagSafe per se, just magnets.
Never having used MagSafe, I know “how convenient is to just pop your iPhone on a stand” with Qi chargers. I still don’t get the supposed need for MagSafe.
For efficiency points, MagSafe perfectly aligns the phone's inductive coils with the charger's inductive coils, maximizing the charger's energy efficiency and charging rate.
Anyone who cares about efficiency and uses inductive charging is an idiot.
Yes, we know that inductive charging is less efficient than wired charging, but that doesn't mean that all inductive charging is the same. A 25 watt MagSafe connection is going to charge significantly faster than a 7.5 watt Qi connection. This is not only true because of the difference in wattage, but because MagSafe assures charging coils are precisely aligned. All this makes MagSafe very literally more efficient than Qi. Noting these differences without mentioning wired charging does not render one an idiot.
Never having used MagSafe, I know “how convenient is to just pop your iPhone on a stand” with Qi chargers. I still don’t get the supposed need for MagSafe.
For efficiency points, MagSafe perfectly aligns the phone's inductive coils with the charger's inductive coils, maximizing the charger's energy efficiency and charging rate.
Anyone who cares about efficiency and uses inductive charging is an idiot.
Yes, we know that inductive charging is less efficient than wired charging, but that doesn't mean that all inductive charging is the same. A 25 watt MagSafe connection is going to charge significantly faster than a 7.5 watt Qi connection. This is not only true because of the difference in wattage, but because MagSafe assures charging coils are precisely aligned. All this makes MagSafe very literally more efficient than Qi. Noting these differences without mentioning wired charging does not render one an idiot.
I'm not debating that MagSafe is more efficient than a generic Qi connection; MagSafe is the best way to optimize a poor technology. I'm just stating that claiming to care about efficiency while using wireless charging that wastes at least 25% of the power is stupid when you have a USB C port that can charge at close to 100% efficiency.
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That's why I said Spigen offers "magnetic charging cases". I know it is not MagSafe, and that Apple is not going to give the nice swirly animation or the maximum charging output. I quoted William complaining about the loss of convenience of just popping it on the stand, and pointed out that this capability is not gone when paired with any magnetic charging case. Most people who use MagSafe with a stand charge their phone overnight while the phone is in Nightstand mode. They don't care how fast it charges overnight. People know the fastest way to charge a phone is to plug it in and that true MagSafe is slower, while non-MagSafe induction charging is slowest.
I understand now that you didn’t actually mean the case was MagSafe. You simply just used “MagSafe” interchangeable with “magnetic charging”. Which is perfectly-understandable. Even product listings do that all the time. At this point it’s almost like calling every box of tissues “Kleenex”, right? lol