Apple's extortionate upgrade prices can't stop the MacBook Air being a bargain

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Apple will never sell a cheap upgrade to anything, but choices the firm has made about the MacBook Air mean even it can't wring all that much more cash out of buyers.

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Apple's Build to Order options for the MacBook Air start with a minor processor difference



Apple would never say this publicly, but so often you know it has released a version of a device solely to hit a price point. It wants to be able to say you can get a MacBook Air for under a thousand bucks, for instance, so it makes that more or less true.

Usually less. Usually the configuration you get for the lowest price of any Apple device is at the very best just about adequate, and usually not even that.

Think of how the 10th generation iPad started at 64GB for years -- until the latest version bumped that up to 128GB. Or think of how even when Apple would sell you a Mac Pro for tens of thousands of dollars, it still tried to get 700 bucks out of you for some wheels.

The cachet is in hitting a price point, but the money is in making you upgrade at Apple's ludicrously expensive rates.

It's not as if the new MacBook Air is a complete exception to this, but the configuration that comes in at $999 is fully usable. And, most unusually, the absolute maximum you can make Apple take from you for a MacBook Air is not as high as you'd expect.

Specifically, if you had absolutely every top of the range update available for the 13-inch MacBook Air -- including adding in Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro software -- you'd pay $2,698.98. For the 15-inch model, the maximum is $2,898.98.

Take out Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro, and the maximum hardware cost is $2,199 for the 13-inch model, and $2,399 for the 15-inch one.

What this all gets you



The reason is that there are few updates you can really make to the new M4 MacBook Air. Presumably that's because if you could make many more, you'd be stepping onto the MacBook Pro's territory.

Options for memory and storage selection, including 16GB, 24GB, 32GB memory, and 256GB, 512GB, 1TB, 2TB SSD storage, with additional cost for higher options.
There are few upgrade options for the MacBook Air



But whatever the reason, the most you can do with the MacBook Air's GPU is go from an 8-core version to a 10-core version. You practically have to hunt to find that 8-core GPU, though, and every configuration has a 10-core CPU.

Then there is also a ceiling on the RAM upgrade you can make. The base models come with 16GB and can be upgrade to either 24GB or 32GB, but no further.

That's actually the same as the 14-inch MacBook Pro, but the 16-inch MacBook Pro can go up to 128GB RAM if you need it and if you can stomach the $1,000 extra cost.

Similarly, the 16-inch MacBook Pro can go up to 8TB of internal SSD storage if you're willing to pay $2,200. That's as much again as it costs to get a maxed-out 13-inch MacBook Air.

Whereas with that new MacBook Air, in either screen size and any configuration, the most internal storage you can get is 2TB. It'll set you back $600, but in Apple terms that's practically a bargain.

No nickle-and-diming you



It's easy to say that Apple overcharges for its upgrades, so let's. Apple overcharges for its upgrades compared to any other manufacturer.

But the suspicion that Apple has a spreadsheet that just rounds up the cost of its upgrades to the nearest national debt, is seemingly not true. Because for one thing, all configurations of the MacBook Air offer a choice of power adapter, and there's no price difference.

It's solely up to you whether you want a 35W Dual USB-C compact power adapter, or a 70W USB-C one that isn't so compact. Apple even gives you a guide to which you might want.

Now, the new Mac Studio, that's different. If you wanted to, you could take the base $1,999 version and take it up to $14,598.98.

You could trim that back by $499.98 and lose Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro, though. And you could elect to pay it instalments of a mere $1,216.58 per month for 12 months.



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  • Reply 1 of 24
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,391member
    "Usually the configuration you get for the lowest price of any Apple device is at the very best just about adequate, and usually not even that."

    So my question for Mr. Gallagher is pretty simple: which base models of Apple devices have you bought or borrowed from Apple, then tested as your daily driver for a while and at what tasks did you find them "usually not even adequate?" Because there are actually a few online reviewers who make it a point to buy and use the base models of Apple devices, just to see how far they can be pushed, and I have yet to read of any base model that can't execute, without breaking a sweat, ANY task that a base model buyer might throw at it. That includes the usual suite of common business applications, as well as video/photo/audio editing, so long as the latter three are being done on a hobbyist basis and not professionally. It goes without saying that if your work (or personal passion) includes applications that are processor or memory intensive, then the base models aren't for you, nor were they ever intended to serve your needs. (In fact, maybe the Macbook Air, itself, isn't for you and a Pro would make more sense.) But there is a whole target market of buyers for which the base model makes perfect sense and is as much computer as they will ever actually need. 
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  • Reply 2 of 24
    22july201322july2013 Posts: 3,804member
    "in making you upgrade at Apple's ludicrously expensive rates."

    Are you comparing Apple's upgrade rates for M-Series RAM (on-die memory) to other platforms (eg, Intel) where the RAM is on separate packages/chips (eg, DDR5?) If so, that's not a fair comparison, because the performance isn't the same. On-die memory has lower latency, higher bandwidth, lower power consumption, reduced complexity and increased reliability. But if you don't value those things, then Apple RAM upgrades are expensive, yes.
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  • Reply 3 of 24
    DAalsethdaalseth Posts: 3,235member

    If you keep your eye on the profit, you're going to skimp on the product. But if you focus on making really great products, then the profits will follow.


    I have increasingly been feeling that Apple under Tim Cook has forgotten this. 


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  • Reply 4 of 24
    "in making you upgrade at Apple's ludicrously expensive rates."

    Are you comparing Apple's upgrade rates for M-Series RAM (on-die memory) to other platforms (eg, Intel) where the RAM is on separate packages/chips (eg, DDR5?) If so, that's not a fair comparison, because the performance isn't the same. On-die memory has lower latency, higher bandwidth, lower power consumption, reduced complexity and increased reliability. But if you don't value those things, then Apple RAM upgrades are expensive, yes.
    Yep. Unified Memory allows the CPU and GPU to access RAM at the same time. DDR systems require the RAM to be split up between the CPU/GPU. That's why people say that, in general, the amount of RAM in an M series system is the approximate equivalent of double the amount of DDR RAM. So the price for 32GB of Unified Memory should really be compared to the price of 64GB of DDR. 
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  • Reply 5 of 24
    mknelsonmknelson Posts: 1,162member
    (In Canada) - the change in upgrade pricing across the board came as an unpleasant surprise. Example: it was $250 CAD to go from 16GB to 24GB - it's now $300. That change happened on all models.
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  • Reply 6 of 24
    titantigertitantiger Posts: 304member
    For the overwhelming majority of MacBook Air customers, 16GB of RAM is plenty.  And so is 256GB of SSD storage.  That machine will scream at virtually anything a normal user throws at it.

    My issue is, as the article states, the extortionate upgrade prices.  You make the machines nearly, if not entirely, impossible to upgrade after purchase, but charge $200 extra per upgrade tier for additional SSD or RAM.  The upgrade tiers should be $100 more.  That's reasonable.  $400 to go to 32GB of RAM is insane.  $400 to go to 1TB of storage is likewise insane.
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  • Reply 7 of 24
    DAalseth said:

    If you keep your eye on the profit, you're going to skimp on the product. But if you focus on making really great products, then the profits will follow.


    I have increasingly been feeling that Apple under Tim Cook has forgotten this. 


    WTF, man? You've now completely crossed over into troll territory. Need a reminder? How about this: https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/152839/rules-of-the-troll-wip/p1
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  • Reply 8 of 24
    jdwjdw Posts: 1,472member

    Apple will never sell a cheap upgrade to anything...

    I think we all know that; and while it's worth repeating to emphasize "Apple quality," I have little doubt that most of us would be more than happy with REASONABLE prices for upgrades.  In other words, a happy medium between the status quo of "extortionate" and "cheap."  And I say this as a AAPL shareholder of 26 years who desperately wants Apple to keep on winning.  You can still win and put numerous dents in the universe without "extortionate" upgrade pricing.


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  • Reply 9 of 24
    jdwjdw Posts: 1,472member

    DAalseth said:

    If you keep your eye on the profit, you're going to skimp on the product. But if you focus on making really great products, then the profits will follow.


    I have increasingly been feeling that Apple under Tim Cook has forgotten this. 


    WTF, man? You've now completely crossed over into troll territory. Need a reminder? How about this: https://forums.appleinsider.com/discussion/152839/rules-of-the-troll-wip/p1
    It's terribly unfortunate to see how my fellow Mac lovers enjoy beating on one another on the most trivial of matters.  And then I scroll up and see that 3 people (so far) have taken an anonymous sledgehammer to poor DAalseth by hammering down on that horrid DISLIKE button.  The DISLIKE button, of course, being yet another way to "troll" your fellow man.  Absolutely terrible!

    While I disagree PROFOUNDLY with ANYONE who seeks to tear down Tim Cook, including DAalseth in the above statement — Tim Cook being a man who has done an incredibly good job without the presence of Steve Jobs (and my AAPL shares prove that quite nicely) — I respect people who disagree with my sentiments.  As such, I feel strongly that THERE IS NO NEED WHATSOEVER to click that slap-someone-in-their-face "Dislike" button, especially in cases like this.  Even though I disagree with his feelings, I didn't click Dislike on his post.  And there is certainly no good reason to label people who disagree with you as being trolls.  

    I clicked the link provided by williamlondon, which led me to the "Rules of the Troll [WIP]" page.  Wow.  Just wow.  All I see is a humongous list of statements which irk some Mac fans, which most likely inspire those same Mac fans to seek out retribution on others by labeling them "trolls."

    Rodney King was right to call for people to "just get along."  And I call upon AppleInsider to start by removing the Dislike button.  And at the same time, I call upon my fellow Mac fans to have a little forgiveness and brotherly love toward others.  Anyone who has hate in their heart, feel free to click Dislike.
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  • Reply 10 of 24
    clexmanclexman Posts: 224member
    "in making you upgrade at Apple's ludicrously expensive rates."

    Are you comparing Apple's upgrade rates for M-Series RAM (on-die memory) to other platforms (eg, Intel) where the RAM is on separate packages/chips (eg, DDR5?) If so, that's not a fair comparison, because the performance isn't the same. On-die memory has lower latency, higher bandwidth, lower power consumption, reduced complexity and increased reliability. But if you don't value those things, then Apple RAM upgrades are expensive, yes.
    While the integrated ram is better faster, etc., It is less expensive for Apple to upgrade a chip from 16 to 32 GB than it is for a PC manufacturer to install an additional RAM module in a computer to make the same upgrade.

    Apple charges what it does for upgrades because it can, not because it is more expensive to produce.
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  • Reply 11 of 24
    charlesncharlesn Posts: 1,391member
    DAalseth said:

    If you keep your eye on the profit, you're going to skimp on the product. But if you focus on making really great products, then the profits will follow.


    I have increasingly been feeling that Apple under Tim Cook has forgotten this. 


    Well... this is a bit of fortune cookie "wisdom" from Steve that doesn't even reflect his own experience. Jobs v1.0 at Apple was arguably about great products and the sales/profits definitely did NOT follow. One main reason the board fired him was his insistence on championing the Lisa and Macintosh, neither of which were selling well. So there's that. And then sales/profits did not really follow Steve's creations at his next venture, Next. So there's that, too. Third time as CEO was obviously the charm for Jobs, when he sold Next to Apple and returned to helm what became a very profitable company. 

    In terms of "skimping on products" under Cook, what would you cite as examples of that?
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  • Reply 12 of 24
    Dibiasedibiase Posts: 14member
    Apple's storage upgrades are the worst example of price gouging.  You can purchase a top spec 1 TB M2 SSD for under $100 but apple charges $400 just to upgrade.  This is the reason I have refused to buy a new Apple laptop for over 10 years now.  I've managed to do everything I need to do with an iPad and my iPhone.  I'd like a new Macbook Air but until they start including more storage standard or bring their upgrade prices to realistic levels, I refuse to support these practices.  
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  • Reply 13 of 24
    I’m not buying a new Mac until I can get cellular and FaceID. 
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  • Reply 14 of 24
    For the overwhelming majority of MacBook Air customers, 16GB of RAM is plenty.  And so is 256GB of SSD storage.  That machine will scream at virtually anything a normal user throws at it.

    My issue is, as the article states, the extortionate upgrade prices.  You make the machines nearly, if not entirely, impossible to upgrade after purchase, but charge $200 extra per upgrade tier for additional SSD or RAM.  The upgrade tiers should be $100 more.  That's reasonable.  $400 to go to 32GB of RAM is insane.  $400 to go to 1TB of storage is likewise insane.
    The RAM pricing will always be high since it’s unified memory thus part of the CPU/GPU whereas the SSD is just generic tech and is priced 4x too high.  If Apple cut the SSD upgrade price in half they still would make huge margins but at least it’s much more affordable and only a ripoff not highway robbery. 
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  • Reply 15 of 24
    y2any2an Posts: 250member
    Rather than another knee-jerking crowd-pleasing resentment to the pricing, a more interesting article would be one which explored why the prices are set as they are, and what the equivalences would be for competitive products. Someone mentioned needing basically double the RAM in a Windows machine for example. It’s probably also the case that 95% of people will be mare than happy with the base configurations. 

    In my own experience, my photo library has become my main reason for needing more storage so an update to Photos which can open libraries simultaneously on internal and external media is long overdue. There’s an iCloud for that so their current disk offerings are steered towards buying cloud storage which is not what I want. 
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  • Reply 16 of 24
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,650member
    Dibiase said:
    Apple's storage upgrades are the worst example of price gouging.  You can purchase a top spec 1 TB M2 SSD for under $100 but apple charges $400 just to upgrade.  This is the reason I have refused to buy a new Apple laptop for over 10 years now.  I've managed to do everything I need to do with an iPad and my iPhone.  I'd like a new Macbook Air but until they start including more storage standard or bring their upgrade prices to realistic levels, I refuse to support these practices.  

    If you are so unhappy just get a Windows computer and a Android phone. It does cost money lots of money to make what Apple makes and have it work across the board (a vertical computer company). You wanna live a life in hell join the ranks of the Wintel/Android crowd. The grass is not greener but it is cheaper for a reason on the other side, these days when Apple introduces anything a vocal quarter of the people cry about the cost, quality cost money. On going iteration research and development cost money.

     Almost every piece of hardware that I bought from Apple over the years last 6 to 9 years and has resale value try and find anything in the PC market that holds up that long software or hardware wise quality cost money, there are two cheaper avenues you can pursue…..
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  • Reply 17 of 24
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,650member

    jdw said:

    Apple will never sell a cheap upgrade to anything...

    I think we all know that; and while it's worth repeating to emphasize "Apple quality," I have little doubt that most of us would be more than happy with REASONABLE prices for upgrades.  In other words, a happy medium between the status quo of "extortionate" and "cheap."  And I say this as a AAPL shareholder of 26 years who desperately wants Apple to keep on winning.  You can still win and put numerous dents in the universe without "extortionate" upgrade pricing.



    It does cost more to buy Apple products many keep forgetting, but to offer continual research and development and iteration on their products does cost more money. They’re not a PC OEM nor are they LG or Samsung, who can’t sell 4.5K, 5K, or 6K monitors into the general PC market at least not at an acceptable margin it takes money lots of it. 

    Apple once again is spear-heading new technology in Thunderbolt 5 across their product lines the other PC OEM’s don’t have the margins to be first or second for that matter, which is one of the reasons why most in the PC market is stuck on 4K 120 Hz monitors, and the same applies to tandem OLED displays they don’t have the margins Apple does in fact, Samsung had the original contract for tandem OLED screens for the new iPads but they dragged their feet and said they couldn’t do it so Apple went to LG.

    LG got 3/4 of the orders for the new M4 iPads, Samsung probably initially didn’t want to do it because they were not going to be able to sell double tandem OLED for a profit (small margins) on their own products into the PC/Android world.
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  • Reply 18 of 24
    entropysentropys Posts: 4,403member
    Just bought an almost maxed out 15 inch MBA in sky blue (24GB, 2TB) because, well I could, delivery 12/3/25. But upgrade prices really stick in my craw and means I update only after five plus years. This in fact is replacing Mrs Entropy’s 2019 MBP.

    DAalseth said:

    If you keep your eye on the profit, you're going to skimp on the product. But if you focus on making really great products, then the profits will follow.

    I have increasingly been feeling that Apple under Tim Cook has forgotten this. 
    Yes, I was always concerned the supply chain master would focus on margins above all else, thus keeping products at the same basic iteration for much longer than Jobs would, and relying on his lieutenants to do the innovation, but always fitting into margins.

    Yes, CharlesN, jobs did learn some hard lessons along the way, although I can clearly remember Apple fans incensed when John Scully engineered a coup. Aand how about this as a counterfactual to ponder: if Jobs had still been at the helm, instead of a corporate weenie, would Apple have been caught with its pants down with Windows 95? 
    As for Next, yet another OS would always struggle to get traction beyond a niche.  A key part of “beleaguered Apple Computer” resurrection was using NEXT as its new foundation.

    Anyway, here is a more detailed quote of Jobs after he had learned his lesson, in a staff meeting with people upset with the cutting out of favourite projects to save Apple:.

    What happened at Apple, to be honest, over the years was the goal used to be to make the best computers in the world. And that was goal one. Goal two, we got from Hewlett-Packard actually which was "we have to make a profit". Because if we don't make a profit we can't do goal one. So, yeah, I mean we enjoyed making a profit, but the purpose of making a profit was so we can make the best computers in the world. Along the way somewhere those two got reversed. The goal is to make a lot of money and well, if we have to make some good computers well ok we'll do that... 'cause we can make a lot of money doing that. And, it's very subtle. It's very subtle at first, but it turns out it's everything. That one little subtle flip... takes 5 years to see it, but that one little subtle flip in 5 years means everything.

    Lastly, we're really big on making computers our friends can afford, and not all our friends are Larry Ellison. So, we've got to make computers that are really affordable and I think that's another place that Apple got really off-track and we are just driving that really hard.

    Indeed. These days it would be more like “Not all our friends are Elon Musk.”

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  • Reply 19 of 24
    Rogue01rogue01 Posts: 241member
    "in making you upgrade at Apple's ludicrously expensive rates."

    Are you comparing Apple's upgrade rates for M-Series RAM (on-die memory) to other platforms (eg, Intel) where the RAM is on separate packages/chips (eg, DDR5?) If so, that's not a fair comparison, because the performance isn't the same. On-die memory has lower latency, higher bandwidth, lower power consumption, reduced complexity and increased reliability. But if you don't value those things, then Apple RAM upgrades are expensive, yes.
    You are completely missing the point.  You must be forgetting that Apple had the same ridiculous high prices for memory upgrades with the Intel Macs, with slotted user-upgradable memory.  Apple did not change their upgrade prices for memory when they switched to ARM.  So performance and unified memory has nothing to do with their prices.  Apple has been ripping people off for decades with their memory upgrades.  Now it is even worse.  The M4 Air with 32GB upgrade is $400.  The M4 Pro MacBook Pro with 48GB is also $400.  The M4 MacBook Pro with 32GB is $400.  This is just Apple ripping people off.  Now you are forced to buy from Apple so they can rip you off because they know you have no other options.
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  • Reply 20 of 24
    88ip88ip Posts: 6member
    Don’t like the price of Apple products, don’t buy them. 

    Apple is a business and prices its products the way they want to and based on what the market will bear. It isn’t a sum of the parts cost+ pricing model. It is up to them to define their business model and they have to weigh all the impacts including profitability, competition, sabotaging Mac Book Pro or iMac sales, etc. 

    BTW, I just took a look at pricing for a new BMW 3 series. Ranges from $45K for a 330i base model to $109K or more for the top line M3 series. All essentially the same car with more power, better trim and handling. It surely doesn’t cost them more than twice as much to make the higher model. 

    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 
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