AAPL crumble: stock hit again, as White House clarifies 145% China tariff rate

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in AAPL Investors edited April 10

After a brief respite on Wednesday, Apple's stock restarted its downward trajectory triggered by President Trump's accelerating tariff battle with China.

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Apple's shares have had a bad time since the tariff war began.



On Wednesday, Apple ended the day at $198.85, up 15.3% from Tuesday's closing level, after Trump announced a pause on tariffs. Just one day later, Thursday's end of trading saw the Apple stock return to its previous downward trend.

At the start of the session, early trading brought Apple's price down to 189.06, but that hit was short-lived as it shot up to $194.78 within an hour. At the time of closure, however, Apple's shares reached $190.42, down 4.24% from the start of the day.

It's not the lowest value the share price reached during the trading session, as the price dipped down to $183 after 12pm Eastern, before gradually recovering in the following hours.

More tariff shenanigans



While there is no way of getting an actual reason from shareholders for the dip, the activity is almost certainly going to relate to the ongoing battle between President Donald Trump and China.

On Thursday, the tit-for-tat tariff fight continued. The 125% tariff rate that Trump set for the U.S. set for Chinese imports was clarified, and is confirmed to be 145% just one day later.

At the same time, investors started to get worried about the 90-day pause on some of Trump's reciprocal tariffs. CNBC determined that investors were concerned that, even with a pause in effect, Trump's continued attacks on China could still slow down economic activity.

The historic rallying of the stock markets after the pause announcement on Wednesday was only a brief help to investors. By Thursday, the recovered levels were again in the process of being eroded, with markets once more showing significant drops in value.

The sheer level of the China tariff rate is too big of a problem for investors to feel secure about their holdings, it seems. With continued uncertainty over the tariff battle and whether it will conclude sooner or later, it's understandable for the markets to feel the pinch.

An extremely dim light of hope for Apple



Amid the doom and gloom, there was a bit of a bonus for Apple. Albeit something briefly mentioned in a Trump speech.

Late on Wednesday, Trump proposed that some companies that were hit hard by the tariff fight could get some relief. Trump confirmed that this relief would take the form of exemptions, which are still under consideration.

As a tech giant so reliant on China, an exemption for Apple would be a massive boon. It would help to isolate the company from the effects of repeatedly rising tariffs against the country where most of its products are assembled for the United States.

Of course, that relies on the exemptions offsetting enough of the tariff to be worthwhile. That, and if it's not suddenly pulled or modified by the Trump administration at a later date.



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  • Reply 1 of 30
    twolf2919twolf2919 Posts: 166member
    In essence, Trump is going to hold court and whoever kisses his aXX the best gets the exemption.  Better pucker up Tim - take one for the shareholders.

    This, if it comes to pass, is the President of the United States getting to decide who are the winners and who are the losers.  I guess letting the 'free market' decide is not required in this new Banana Republic.

    For what it's worth, I challenge the assumption that Apple is most deserving of protection because it "is so reliant on China".  There are 34 MILLION small and medium sized businesses in the US, many of which are just as reliant - if not more so - on parts and/or products from China.  And this 145% tariff is going to have a much more immediate devastating effect on them than it does on a giant corporation like AAPL.  Little dollar stores don't have the 39% margin cushion Apple enjoys with its devices and, more importantly, they don't have $50+b in cash they can rely on to weather this tariff storm.
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    6toecat6toecat Posts: 53member
    I'm sure Steve Jobs would not be caving to Trumps extorion demands to avoid tarrifs on Apple. Pretty sure there Tim Cook !
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  • Reply 3 of 30
    spice-boyspice-boy Posts: 1,452member
    Tim, you and your tech bro's thought money, and kissing his ring would mean business as usual, wrong. The day Siri can beat the "Nero Claudius" of Queens, will never happen.
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  • Reply 4 of 30
    ssfe11ssfe11 Posts: 142member
    Hey you cannot go up 15% in one day and not give back a little bit the next day. No way not going to happen. Remember shortterm Wall Street is a casino. 
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  • Reply 5 of 30
    ssfe11ssfe11 Posts: 142member
    Apple can add and will I add if necessary a tariff surcharge in big bold letters to iPhone in September so the whole world can def see it and thank Trump for it. 
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  • Reply 6 of 30
    dymmasdymmas Posts: 39member
    145%??

    The already almost too expensive iPhone will become unobtainable.
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  • Reply 7 of 30
    JFC_PAjfc_pa Posts: 963member
    Toddler throwing a tantrum. Hope to see the holding breath phase soon. That should fix things given the morbid obesity of the guy. 
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  • Reply 8 of 30
    DAalsethdaalseth Posts: 3,254member

    I said several months ago that Trump is the best friend China has ever had.

    His first term he bungled things and handed China the South China Sea. Before The US and countries in the region were standing up to China’s attempt to grab huge areas as its ‘sovereign’ territory. By the time Trump left most of the countries in the region were negotiating settlements with China because they had concluded they couldn‘t trust the US to have their back. His first round of trade wars cost the US badly, by any measure China won that round. Now he’s starting off with the same failed tactics. By 2029 China will be the dominant superpower in the world, militarily, politically, and economically, and Trump will be remembered in history as the man that made it possible. Then there’s space, where he and Musk want to pivot to Mars giving the moon and all the industry and economic benefit from the sprouting lunar economy to China.

    Trump is the best friend China ever had.

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  • Reply 9 of 30
    Tim Cook is -so called- a logstics genius guy. 
    Let´s see how he can handle this situation.
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  • Reply 10 of 30
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,370member
    Hard to win when the goalposts are being moved continuously. But Tim and Apple's senior management will try because that's their responsibility to their shareholders, partners, and customers. Note that "shareholder" basically includes every American adult with a pension plan or retirement account and thus affects their offspring as well.
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  • Reply 11 of 30
    retrogustoretrogusto Posts: 1,155member
    I don’t see any way that the tariffs could remain in place for anything other than a very short period without leading to a financial situation that would destroy the Republican Party for years to come. People were furious about inflation under Biden, despite the fact that it was a worldwide crisis essentially resulting from Covid, and the US did relatively well compared to much of the world, only 1% worse than the inflation during Reagan’s first term. If left in place, the tariffs would cause very sharp increases in all kinds of things, and it would be hard to blame it on anything other than the tariffs. You also can’t really tell people that their bank statements or their supermarket receipts are fake news, and very little would be untouched by the proposed tariffs. Trump may be in office for a while, but midterm elections are next year. Trump won by a tiny margin, and the Senate and House are not controlled by large margins either, so the current administration can’t really risk angering a lot of voters without a bloodbath in next year’s elections. The plan is probably to hope for lots of quick concessions from other countries before things get too bad here, but anyone with a brain knows that he doesn’t really want to blow up the US economy just for leverage, so it wouldn’t be surprising if annoyed leaders around the world decide to call his bluff.
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  • Reply 12 of 30
    blastdoorblastdoor Posts: 3,751member

    “On Black Monday, October 28, 1929, the Dow declined nearly 13 percent. On the following day, Black Tuesday, the market dropped nearly 12 percent. By mid-November, the Dow had lost almost half of its value. The slide continued through the summer of 1932, when the Dow closed at 41.22, its lowest value of the twentieth century, 89 percent below its peak. The Dow did not return to its pre-crash heights until November 1954.“
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  • Reply 13 of 30
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,367member
    6toecat said:
    I'm sure Steve Jobs would not be caving to Trumps extorion demands to avoid tarrifs on Apple. Pretty sure there Tim Cook !
    I'm sure Steve Jobs is dead, and you can't speak for him. 
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  • Reply 14 of 30
    Beware the blanket assumption that future election risk will police current choices. I find myself doubting there will be mid-term or subsequent elections… which would make the problems of having to please all but the 1% no longer an issue. 

    Jan 6 showed a tremendously shocking & final effort to retain the “throne.” Who cares about constitutional process? Who cares about orderly transfers of power when it isn’t the way “dear leader” wants it to go? Why would leadership with now largely unchecked power allow any potential for elections to eject him/them again? 

    See many dictatorships that hold “elections” in which other dear leaders seem to get 9X% of the vote no matter the conditions of the masses. The difference between here and there is only a collective willingness to adhere to and defend constitutional law… and rule of law in general… a promise already arguably broken again & again since swearing (in) to uphold those very laws (again).

    So many seem to be hanging a hat on this idea of resolving their dismay as soon as “next elections” but that only has potential if there ARE next elections. Someone shared a little factoid about the average age before empires fall: 250 years. How old is our American empire? Do that easy math if you dare.

    Of course, I’ll hope the ideas just shared have no merit. But one way to explain the tsunami of actions that don’t seem so “for the people” can easily roll with this scary concept. Once some set aside the idea of the power of elections to change who holds office, those currently in power can do whatever they want… only pretending “government as usual” to keep the big surprise at bay… for now??? No need to share this shocker until they must… if this is, in fact, the plan.

    TBD but food for “think different” thought. 
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  • Reply 15 of 30
    retrogusto said: If left in place, the tariffs would cause very sharp increases in all kinds of things, and it would be hard to blame it on anything other than the tariffs. 
    One of the explanations that the Trump administration is currently trying out is to claim that Trump inherited a "depression" from Biden. Stephen Miller made that statement while appearing on Fox News. 
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  • Reply 16 of 30
    I am waiting for the day when people realize that virtually everything they buy at Walmart and Amazon is going to get a lot more expensive.
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  • Reply 17 of 30
    Cook lost his $1M. He better find a place to print a lot of "made in India" stickers and attach them to every iPhone box. 
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  • Reply 18 of 30
    nubusnubus Posts: 778member
    I am waiting for the day when people realize that virtually everything they buy at Walmart and Amazon is going to get a lot more expensive.
    It will take 1-4 months. Those being left behind are retirees as their savings are getting a cut due to both markets and tariffs/inflation without any upside. They won't get much benefit from tax cuts and can't negotiate salaries. 
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  • Reply 19 of 30
    I don't understand all this snark being thrown around on Cook. He seems to be the right person to steer Apple in these very unpredictable times. 

    He paid $1MM out of his personal pocket for the company and the direct and indirect dependents. 

    We still have a few months till September. It will be most interesting to see what the landscape is like then.
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  • Reply 20 of 30
    With the tax cuts that have been announced, income from tariffs is now essential to government running and must be here to stay
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