Aren't we getting ahead of ourselves talking about chip yields and price impact on a Phone a year and a half from now?
As for foldables, Apple supports products for about 8 years while increasing water and dust tolerance. They can easily develop prototypes and never release them.
Apple will need apps or iOS features that depend on it. The software must be relevant to many and ship on time. Otherwise it we be a new iPad Air - the muscle iPad that doesn’t sell. Or like the under utilized mmWave, action btn, and LiDAR features that add cost. Time to add value.
Much ado about nothing. If all you chicken littles would start focusing on what you can do to stop the train wreck that is this country and its shitty leadership, we probably wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Elon Musk thinks LiDAR is a waste of time, that tells you that it’s worth all the time in the world for Apple, and see Intel, Kodak, Xerox, IBM, Motorola of Schaumburg, Illinois and US steel for what happens to you when you just rest on your laurels and make no improvements, it never ceases to amaze me on the tech boards you can have so many disciples of (Ned Ludd) Luddites.
Apple is in the wrong industry if you want to sit and make no improvements….. I seem to recall Apple (Tim Cook) getting blamed (still is) for not being faster on AI? Everyone at one time or another hesitates (Apple Pro, Apple Servers), however over the long haul you can’t stop making iterations to your products, I must admit I wish some would come faster particularly in the computer truck department.
Sales on the iPad went up about one 1.4 billion dollars per quarter since the release of the M4 iPad Pro may not seem like much but one and a half to $2 billion dollars per quarter adds up over the course of four quarters in a business year. Apples iteration in comparison to many of their competitors has been good, but some of their release dates have been terrible once again, you can’t miss the back to school season nor can you miss the Christmas buying season either. Example releasing the MacBook Pros in the second week of November is simply bad timing.
That's a problem mainly because the speed of existing processors is more than sufficient to meet the needs of the vast majority of users. Really fast upgraded to faster still, in real-world use, adds up to no discernible upgrade. Asking consumers who already are facing substantial price increases to pay more for essentially nothing doesn't appear to be a good grasp of what will best serve consumers. In the end, the key to success does lie in making your customers happy. Charging more with nothing to show for it is not how you do that. As the price of acquiring the latest and greatest goes up, it motivates consumers to think hard about upgrading from a working iPhone. So if Apple goes to a higher price point with its iPhone line, it will not end well for Apple. The only way this would work would be if there was compelling functionality added to the iPhone experience as a result of a processor upgrade. Current processors are so capable that it seems unlikely this will happen.
I can’t really agree with that. With many, if not most phone users playing games that need more and more performance, every boost is a good thing. Additionally, for image processing and other performance intensive apps, better chips are always going to be needed.
There’s no point in saying that things are good enough, because they never are. I remember when it was said that the new IBM 286 computer, with that chip, was all that business needed. Then later, that the single core, because that was what everything was back then, 486 was as fast and anyone needed. We hear people saying this over and again, and they’re always wrong. It’s wrong here as well.
There was a time when advancements in processor power really mattered. We are no longer living in that time. The advancements impacted just about everybody who used a computer. Now, not so much. There are uses that can take advantage of even incremental performance enhancements but these days they represent a niche element. For the vast majority of the tasks that we use our iPhones, Macs, and iPads to perform, processor performance is more than adequate. Weighing that against increasing the price tag and clearly the price hike is far more consequential from the perspective of the typical consumer.
You’re repeating what you said, and it’s still wrong. You may not always notice what’s going on in the background when you use a device, but it is going on, and it’s usually dependent on a more complex, powerful chip. Every time you get ac new phone the screen owrforms better because of better graphics capability. Want 120Hz refresh? Then you need more performance. Same thing with everything. You just don’t realize what’s happening to make even mundane things work seamlessly together. You get so used to the better functioning that you don’t think about why.
At what point should ship development stop? 10 years ago? Five? This year? Over the next few years? I hope not.
I’m wondering whether we are already reaching the end of each subsequent M chip providing significant speed increases due to their design, and we’re already depending mostly on shrinking the transistors.
Each M series update has given about a 20% increase in performance. That’s with and without new process sizes.
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As for foldables, Apple supports products for about 8 years while increasing water and dust tolerance. They can easily develop prototypes and never release them.
stops the peasants owning a high end devices. 😆
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Luddite
Apple is in the wrong industry if you want to sit and make no improvements….. I seem to recall Apple (Tim Cook) getting blamed (still is) for not being faster on AI? Everyone at one time or another hesitates (Apple Pro, Apple Servers), however over the long haul you can’t stop making iterations to your products, I must admit I wish some would come faster particularly in the computer truck department.
Sales on the iPad went up about one 1.4 billion dollars per quarter since the release of the M4 iPad Pro may not seem like much but one and a half to $2 billion dollars per quarter adds up over the course of four quarters in a business year. Apples iteration in comparison to many of their competitors has been good, but some of their release dates have been terrible once again, you can’t miss the back to school season nor can you miss the Christmas buying season either. Example releasing the MacBook Pros in the second week of November is simply bad timing.
At what point should ship development stop? 10 years ago? Five? This year? Over the next few years? I hope not.
Each M series update has given about a 20% increase in performance. That’s with and without new process sizes.