Google has an illegal monopoly on online advertising, judge rules

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Google is an illegal monopolist in online advertising, a federal court has determined, in a ruling that could lead to a breakup of its ad business.

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Google monopolised online ads, a court determined.



On Thursday, U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema ruled that Google unlawfully monopolized advertising markets. The ruling determined that Google had control over a number of advertising markets, to the level of a monopoly, which it used to its advantage.

In the ruling, Judge Brinkema determined that Google's monopoly affected the market for publisher ad servers and for ad exchanges. In effect, Google was able to influence the way advertisers bought ads, as well as how much publishers sold that ad space for.

This was enough to influence and exert control over the overall online advertising market in general.

However, an attempt to show that Google monopolized advertiser ad networks failed, despite the Department of Justice's urging.

The ruling gives fuel to the possibility that Google will have to break apart its lucrative advertising business in some way. Following the ruling, the court will be seeking remedies from Google on how it can rectify the situation.

A big squeeze



The battle saw the U.S. government claim Google had used its size and influence on both the buyer and seller sides of the equation. In doing so, it was able to raise the prices of ad spots, while also reducing the ability for competitors to take Google on.

The ruling from Judge Brinkema determined Google deprived competitors of "the ability to compete," which substantially harmed Google's customers and consumers, as well as market competition.

As part of the ruling, the judge has ordered the lawsuit's parties to offer arguments and proposals for how Google's monopoly in ad tech can be eliminated. The Department of Justice has previously insisted that Google could break off the Google Ad Manager, selling it to another company at a minimum.

Oddly, this is a thing that Google had previously considered, having thought about it in 2019 and 2022. This occurred before the DOJ's suit was filed in 2023.

Twice the monopoly



This is not the first time Google has been referred to as an illegal monopoly by the court. In August 2024, a court agreed with the DOJ that Google had an illegal monopoly in the search market.

In that instance, Google was said to have a monopoly on the search engine market, and had performed actions to shut out competing search engines.

While Apple wasn't involved in the latest ad market case, it did have a role in the search engine market one.

In that instance, the court discussed how Google paid billions to firms to make it the most prominent or first choice for consumers. This included paying Apple $20 billion in 2022 to keep Google as the default search in Safari.

Break-ups and benefits



For Google, the result is making the prospect of a partial breaking up of the company more likely.

Under the first antitrust monopoly ruling, while Google proposed remedies such as altering existing contracts with Apple and others, the DoJ was more blunt in insisting there be a sale or break-up.

With the court asking for remedies once again, this will give the DOJ a second opportunity to recommend a breaking-up or a sale of a business arm.

A shifting of the ad business away from Google wouldn't be a death knell for the search giant. It wouldn't affect the ad sales on Google's properties, such as Gmail, Google Maps, or YouTube.

Indeed, any remedies that affect the ad business could be beneficial to Apple. The iPhone maker has been expanding its own advertising arm, and it could see an opportunity for growth if Google's forced into actions to improve competition.

This is pretty much the opposite result of the worst that could happen to Apple under the earlier monopoly lawsuit. Under that one, the remedies could affect the billions Apple receives from Google for Safari search preferences.



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  • Reply 1 of 19
    Here’s how these lawsuits work: they go on back and forth for a decade and eventually the offender settles for some insignificant amount while admitting no wrongdoing.
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  • Reply 2 of 19
    jfabula1jfabula1 Posts: 219member
    So I’m thinking, if a US company get very successful in their business model & it get rich it becomes monopolistic.. 
    Will Facebook be the next? 
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  • Reply 3 of 19
    jfabula1 said:
    So I’m thinking, if a US company get very successful in their business model & it get rich it becomes monopolistic.. 
    Will Facebook be the next? 
    Hopefully. 
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  • Reply 4 of 19
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,731member
    Afarstar said:
    jfabula1 said:
    So I’m thinking, if a US company get very successful in their business model & it get rich it becomes monopolistic.. 
    Will Facebook be the next? 
    Hopefully. 
    Careful. There's a few American tech companies who have become behemoths. Apple and Amazon are two who immediately come to mind. This administration would not have been one I would expect to be insisting on business success being penalized. 
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  • Reply 5 of 19
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,412member
    jfabula1 said:
    So I’m thinking, if a US company get very successful in their business model & it get rich it becomes monopolistic.. 
    Will Facebook be the next? 
    Meta is currently being investigated over their alleged monopoly of social networking and messaging. It's all over the news, don't know how one could miss that if you read any business news at all. There's talk that Meta might have to sell off Instagram and WhatsApp.

    Microsoft has been scrutinized as well for anti-trust behavior. Apple has come under fire for how they operate their App Store. In fact they had to open up their walled garden in the EU to let third-party app stores in. That was a couple of years ago.

    To all extent, all of the Fortune 100 companies with consumer-facing businesses will come under scrutiny from time to time with various agencies worldwide focusing on the top 20 companies or so.

    For sure Alphabet is also being scrutinized for YouTube's dominance. Today's declaration of a monopolistic ad network is directly tied to Google Search (which is also considered monopolistic) because Google AdWords has been the long-time cash cow for Google (now Alphabet).
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  • Reply 6 of 19
    narwhalnarwhal Posts: 128member
    This need not be a concern for Google, considering who runs the US government now. He’ll take a bribe, openly, and this case will go away.
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  • Reply 7 of 19
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,689member

    Google is an illegal monopolist in online advertising, a federal court has determined, in a ruling that could lead to a breakup of its ad business. 


    Read on AppleInsider


    If you want true competition, make it so that Google cannot be on the Apple ecosystems and the same should apply to Microsoft and Meta and vice versa then you will see actual competition among the cozy back scratching tech giants. Of the four out of necessity over the years Apple has always had to have the most complete computer experience for their customers to exist while the others could freeload back-and-forth on other platforms, make them all survive on their own and then you would have real competition.
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  • Reply 8 of 19
    bloggerblogbloggerblog Posts: 2,580member
    Here’s how these lawsuits work: they go on back and forth for a decade and eventually the offender settles for some insignificant amount while admitting no wrongdoing.
    It's really just a payout. Big gov can now say nah they're off the hook we already assessed them. They may do something minor like split out Chrome.
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  • Reply 9 of 19
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,412member
    It's important to note that the DoJ is pursuing Alphabet for other matters, most importantly for monopolizing online search.

    These two articles explains it well:

    https://www.macrumors.com/2024/08/05/google-search-antitrust-monopoly/

    https://www.macrumors.com/2025/03/10/doj-google-chrome-sale/

    and the DoJ is pushing for divestiture of the Google Chrome browser. It has back burnered divestiture of the Android operating system but that's still something they could push for later.

    It's worth pointing out that many these DoJ actions started before the current administration which does not seem to be pulling the reins on the DoJ's pursuit.
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  • Reply 10 of 19
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,412member
    New AG, same pursuit. First guilty of monopolizing search, today guilty of monopolizing advertising. It's not like the AG dropped this.

    And as we've seen from DOGE reforms and other executive branch action, the current administration has no problems doing things very quickly. If the current president wanted the AG to drop Alphabet litigation, it could have happened very quickly. After all the AG sits in cabinet meetings.

    It's not like POTUS doesn't know what's on the AG's plate. I'm sure POTUS has separate individual meetings with all of his cabinet appointees, just like all managers handling direct reports. They're there because he wants them to be there to do what he wants.

    My guess is that the Attorney General will push for harsh penalties like divestiture of the Chrome browser and Google's advertising business unit. No slap on the wrist or $1 million fine.

    Note that Pam Bondi was nominated by the current president to become AG in late November, about six weeks before the inauguration. For sure the incoming president and she had talks about a variety of issues. She was part of his defense team in the impeachment proceedings in 2019-2020. It's not like they're just getting to know each other. She likely had her marching orders before Christmas 2024 especially for all of these high-profile cases.
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  • Reply 11 of 19
    Wesley_Hilliardwesley_hilliard Posts: 458member, administrator, moderator, editor
    The US government investigation US companies for monopolizing their markets is complicated. It isn't that anyone is saying a company can't be successful, it's a question of how they got so big without any competition.

    Facebook buying out its potential future competitors is a problem. Google saturating the online ad market and stopping anyone else from competing is a problem. Apple creating issues with being compatible with third-party devices could be seen as a problem.

    So the courts want to investigate these issues and figure out if the companies need to be compelled to change or divest from certain markets.

    It'll be interesting to see how all of these cases work out.

    And there was no reason to make this thread about Trump's battle with the legal system. Thanks.
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  • Reply 12 of 19
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,412member
    I'm sure there will be more cases brought to the court system in time. This certainly won't be the last time we see the DoJ investigating a large US corporation. Antitrust laws were passed about 130 years ago. The DoJ is trying to enforce current regulations, not just for Alphabet but for everyone.

    For sure all of these companies look at the regulations in place and try to figure how to get as close to the line as possible without going over it because if they don't someone else will. But the lines aren't a ditch in the dirt, they are largely conceptual, described in words on paper without some sort of obvious visible demarcation like a strip of chalk on a grass field.

    Google allegedly signs non-compete clauses with their AI engineers. Non-compete clauses are effectively unenforceable in the State of California. However there are other jurisdictions where they are valid and enforced. However Google has taken the clever approach to offer a year's worth of salary to departing AI engineers provided they don't go work for the competition. That's very devious in the fast-moving AI industry. Is this illegal? I'm no expert on labor law but at some point someone is going to investigate it.

    Anyhow, this most certainly isn't the last we will hear of this particular legal action (i.e., Google, search, Chrome). As I wrote earlier, I fully expect Alphabet to appeal today's ruling. They will likely file that appeal within a week or two and tech media will have more fodder then.
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  • Reply 13 of 19
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,370member
    The US government investigation US companies for monopolizing their markets is complicated. It isn't that anyone is saying a company can't be successful, it's a question of how they got so big without any competition.

    Facebook buying out its potential future competitors is a problem. Google saturating the online ad market and stopping anyone else from competing is a problem. Apple creating issues with being compatible with third-party devices could be seen as a problem.

    So the courts want to investigate these issues and figure out if the companies need to be compelled to change or divest from certain markets.

    It'll be interesting to see how all of these cases work out.

    And there was no reason to make this thread about Trump's battle with the legal system. Thanks.
    What the heck. I literally posted my take -like everyonecc by else is doing and you come in like usual bevause you don’t like it and put your opinion instead. 

    Bro. It’s too much. I didn’t break any rules and I didn’t “make the thread about” anything I gave context to my point which was a valid response to someone else’s take. 

    It’s a discussion forum for crying out loud. Feels like I have a stalker. 

    This started prior to trump. That’s what I was addressing. I suppose that’s why you felt the need to delete my post and replace it with your defense. 

    Looking at all the posts you leave alone, it’s ok if someone bashes president or shares an unfounded criticism, calls him names, etc. or even just makes up a story. But if anyone dares say something good - j context of the thread - here comes old Wesley to replace it with his anti-trump opinion. 

    It’s wrong. Please stop. 
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  • Reply 14 of 19
    SiTimesitime Posts: 44member
    gatorguy said:
    Afarstar said:
    jfabula1 said:
    So I’m thinking, if a US company get very successful in their business model & it get rich it becomes monopolistic.. 
    Will Facebook be the next? 
    Hopefully. 
    Careful. There's a few American tech companies who have become behemoths. Apple and Amazon are two who immediately come to mind. This administration would not have been one I would expect to be insisting on business success being penalized. 
    It was the Trump administration (administration version 1.0) that sued to break-up Meta. That Trump Admin 1.0-era lawsuit is why Mark Zuckerberg is in court right now fighting to keep his company in one piece. The Biden administration continued the lawsuit, but it was the Trump administration’s FTC (and many individual U.S. states) that began the lawsuit. And it’s the Trump administration (2.0) that is in court right now as the plaintiff in the case against Meta.

    (My apologies if you were being sarcastic in your reply and already knew all of this. Sometimes it’s difficult to tell the difference between sarcasm and sincerity in written form.)
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  • Reply 15 of 19
    sphericspheric Posts: 2,747member
    gatorguy said:
    Afarstar said:
    jfabula1 said:
    So I’m thinking, if a US company get very successful in their business model & it get rich it becomes monopolistic.. 
    Will Facebook be the next? 
    Hopefully. 
    Careful. There's a few American tech companies who have become behemoths. Apple and Amazon are two who immediately come to mind. This administration would not have been one I would expect to be insisting on business success being penalized. 
    The judiciary is *supposed* to be independent of the administration. That’s kind of the point of building a democracy upon three separate but equal branches of government. 
    MplsPzeus423nubusFileMakerFeller
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  • Reply 16 of 19
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,412member
    What the heck.
    ... (truncated for brevity)

    It’s wrong. Please stop. 
    My takeaway from your screed is that you have issues about reality. And we have been here numerous times before.

    Your comments are sometimes entertaining though, very similar to SNL parodies. I'll give you that, please do carry on.
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  • Reply 17 of 19
    StrangeDaysstrangedays Posts: 13,171member
    gatorguy said:
    Afarstar said:
    jfabula1 said:
    So I’m thinking, if a US company get very successful in their business model & it get rich it becomes monopolistic.. 
    Will Facebook be the next? 
    Hopefully. 
    Careful. There's a few American tech companies who have become behemoths. Apple and Amazon are two who immediately come to mind. This administration would not have been one I would expect to be insisting on business success being penalized. 
    That’s because you’re absurdly misconstruing “successful” and monopolistic. Google didn’t have to use its success to harmfully influence or control its market. They chose to, because of, you know, greed. Executives are have direct financial interests in continual growth and profit, despite this being impossible. So they will push the envelope as much as possible so they can personally benefit financially (additional RSUs, increased net worth, bonuses, vertical advancement, etc). It’s 100% the behavior that is punished, not the success. 

    Plenty of successful businesses don’t exhibit this behavior. They’re literally all around you. 
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  • Reply 18 of 19
    Appleishappleish Posts: 758member
    They don't call them the 'Mountain View Ad Company' for nothing.
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  • Reply 19 of 19
    gatorguy said:
    Afarstar said:
    jfabula1 said:
    So I’m thinking, if a US company get very successful in their business model & it get rich it becomes monopolistic.. 
    Will Facebook be the next? 
    Hopefully. 
    Careful. There's a few American tech companies who have become behemoths. Apple and Amazon are two who immediately come to mind. This administration would not have been one I would expect to be insisting on business success being penalized. 
    Bwaaaahhahaha!! No? Not like game plan 2025 wasn’t there for all to see, ami’right? Oh, yeah, and the economic and human disaster that was 45, where he got his ass impeached twice … but not a clue, yeah?
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