Apple: We need front mounted USB and Firewire!

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
How do expect to be the digital hub when its just hard to hook up a device?





every desktop mac should have a USB and firewire port mounted on the front and the powerbook should have at least 1 usb on the side somewhere.



powermac especially. kinda hard to use the ipod if you have a tower under a desk or something.
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  • Reply 1 of 61
    applenut,

    we're totally on the same wavelength ... i just posted a similar comment on the '3 things you want to change to the apple lineup' thread ... Maybe they'll listen and come up with something more elegant than what we have now in the PeeCee world ... which is usually either "hide the ports behind an ugly panel" or "leave the ports exposed". not sure i like either, but front mount ports would be an improvement.



    What i do with my cube is, i have a dr. bott hub plugged into my keyboard, and i leave a firewire cord dangling for my video camera ... not the best solution, but it works
  • Reply 2 of 61
    [quote]Originally posted by applenut:

    <strong>kinda hard to use the ipod if you have a tower under a desk or something.</strong><hr></blockquote>What?? :eek: How dare you blaspheme Apple in such a vulgar way! Jobs 3:27 clearly proclaims: [quote]That all Macs be exposed gloriously, shining uncloaked high atop the pillarous altars of Apple, so to reveal the sovereignty that is Apple to thine heathen PC bretheren.<hr></blockquote>Thus, bring out your Macintosh from beneath the shawdows of your berth! We followers of the almighty Apple have nothing to hide!



    :cool:
  • Reply 3 of 61
    what about a front mounted headphone jack too for audio nuts!!
  • Reply 4 of 61
    Sucks that adding ports to the front makes a machine so ugly. For real tho. Compaq's been doing it, and covering them up with a slide-away door for years. Blech.
  • Reply 5 of 61
    [quote]Originally posted by macXusr:

    <strong>what about a front mounted headphone jack too for audio nuts!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

    Ditto that. I've memorized the "feel" of what and where the ports are in the back of my Mac just from swapping between speakers and headphones.
  • Reply 6 of 61
    groveratgroverat Posts: 10,872member
    I'm surprised that computer companies still don't have this as standard, it just makes sense for devices that are swapped in and out. Permanent deviced connected up front is fugly, but the iPod screams for a convenient FW port.



    Apple, with its beaucoup PrettyCase budget can surely come up with an aesthetically pleasing way of making that happen.



    (As a personal gripe, I don't think Dell could make it any more difficult to hook things up without chainin attack dogs to the back of the system. grrrr



    Dell designer: "Let's see, most people are right handed and it is easier to reach the top back rather than the bottom back, so on our desktops let's put all the ports on the bottom left, and make sure that the USB ports are blocked by the video cord. . .")



    [ 11-17-2001: Message edited by: groverat ]</p>
  • Reply 7 of 61
    sinewavesinewave Posts: 1,074member
    Towers like women.. belong under the desk
  • Reply 8 of 61
    Me too!



    Whats worse is that I have Yikes! G4, Dual 450 G4, and a Digital Audio 466 G4 - they have all got different positioned FireWire ports!!



    AND, the most recent G4 has squashed the ports between the USB and Ethernet ports making them even worst to fumble. Progress, what progress?



    Front FireWire ports would make my life much easier.
  • Reply 9 of 61
    The whole concept of connectivity is also what puzzles me. It definitely is a battle between pure form and the ability to connect with wires.



    iMac wins because in its original incarnation you can use it in its ?pure? form and be quite happy to use it without the need to add that many bits to it.



    The Cube ?fell down? somewhat because it seemed awkward to connect to the back. It was definitely a computer which when was put in its place - you didn?t really want to interfere with it again, I certainly would not want to disturb its highfalutin majesty!



    My G3 seems to just has a mass of stuff coming out the back of it!!!



    I think the Hub version of computing is affecting alot of us now - so how can we do this without causing a mess and obscuring the pure forms of the art-like computer?



    Solution 1



    Make every thing a connected thing. The object looks like it should be connected!!



    Solution 2



    Create an Annex into which all the connections can be made.



    This may be realised at a point where we have very little contact with the computer and the connection experience becomes its own objective - what I mean is that the computer can be philosophically split into 2 parts:



    A The part that works and can exist anywhere (above and below a desk or in a rack even).



    B The part you connect to: the annex Encourages the New Joy of Computing which is the ability to connect and feed/transfer various material.



    The Annex therefore is a connection machine not in the parallel computing sense but in the physical sense - to compute is to connect. I think this is visualised well in the ?Rio? iBook Ad, where its not about the iBook per se but how you connect.



    What will the Annex look like?
    • It could just be like the iBook - a plush line of connectors on a solid base.

    • It could be on your keyboard or working input device.

    • It could be visually like an AirPort Base station

    • Or the monitor continues to evolve and take on more responsibility.


    It might be also worth considering the tactile nature of making a physical connection... like do you want to be able to move the thing your connecting to and how does it feel? Is it rubberised to give you some purchase or grip?



    It would be interesting to see any ideas as renderings or drawings...



    userone



    [ 11-17-2001: Message edited by: userone ]</p>
  • Reply 10 of 61
    matsumatsu Posts: 6,558member
    How 'bout a cheap live drive type thingy for the rather useless zip-bay???
  • Reply 11 of 61
    My iMac IS way more convenient with the ports on the side. Probably Powerbook/iBook owners think the same. How about ports on the side, or firewire ports incuded on the display?
  • Reply 12 of 61
    Hey, do they PowerMacs still have those internal firewire ports? You could drill a hole in the front of the case and run an extension lead from it to the hole and then work out some way to make a face plate. Probably look like hell, though.....
  • Reply 13 of 61
    [quote]Originally posted by userone:

    <strong>The whole concept of connectivity is also what puzzles me. It definitely is a battle between pure form and the ability to connect with wires...

    ... The Cube ?fell down? somewhat because it seemed awkward to connect to the back. It was definitely a computer which when was put in its place - you didn?t really want to interfere with it again, I certainly would not want to disturb its highfalutin majesty!...



    Solution 1



    Make every thing a connected thing. The object looks like it should be connected!!



    Solution 2



    Create an Annex into which all the connections can be made.

    A The part that works and can exist anywhere (above and below a desk or in a rack even).

    What will the Annex look like?[list][*]It could just be like the iBook - a plush line of connectors on a solid base.[*]It could be on your keyboard or working input device.[*]It could be visually like an AirPort Base station[*]Or the monitor continues to evolve and take on more responsibility.



    ... It would be interesting to see any ideas as renderings or drawings...



    userone



    [ 11-17-2001: Message edited by: userone ]</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Most Interesting userone.



    On a personal note, my Cube sits as Art on my desk, positioned directly over a 2 inch "knock out" hole put there to run wires. All connections, save video, go right down that hole in a nice bundle. I have a Sony CD burner (on a shelf above my monitor) and a Sony DV Cam (doing double duty as a Web Cam) firewired to the Cube. USB to my Pro speakers and to a 7 port USB hub conveniently located, yet out of sight under my desk.



    In a sense my Cube will become my "Annex" when I get a TiBook, as it will become my broadband firewall and file/web server. I'll use my TiBook from anywhere on my property - wirelessly.
  • Reply 14 of 61
    bellebelle Posts: 1,574member
    [quote]Originally posted by applenut:

    <strong>How do expect to be the digital hub when its just hard to hook up a device?</strong><hr></blockquote>

    I couldn't agree more, applenut. I have a feeling we'll get revised Apple displays in January which will include a handful of easily accessible USB and FireWire ports.



    I would assume a revised iMac would also be made a bit more suitable for it's role as a "digital hub".

    [quote]Sucks that adding ports to the front makes a machine so ugly.<hr></blockquote>

    I don't know, I like the open ports on the iBook. It makes it look, um, kind of techie and gadgety. It's certainly prettier than a strip of serial, parallel and VGA ports.
  • Reply 15 of 61
    Why not just buy a hub? More ports. Easy access. Simple.
  • Reply 16 of 61
    bellebelle Posts: 1,574member
    [quote]Originally posted by wormboy:

    <strong>Why not just buy a hub? More ports. Easy access. Simple.</strong><hr></blockquote>

    I think applenut's point is that if Apple is selling it's hardware as a "digital hub" for your USB and FireWire devices, it would be kind of sensible for them to provide a clutch of easy to find ports.
  • Reply 17 of 61
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Whaddya think about this - aren't those all ports on the front? This machine is a digital hub.

  • Reply 18 of 61
    It is true, my G4 has an internal FireWire port...i am thinking of getting an internal FireWire HD, considrun i dont want to upgrade to another card (SCSI or ATA/100)



    this birds gotta fly <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
  • Reply 19 of 61
    What IS the point of that internal FW port?



    I think instead of having them on the very front of the machine, how about the side or bottom somehow? I'm thinking the side, because it's not hard to plug in and it's not as ugly either.



    Although, someone else had a point, they should just be on Apple's displays. Yeah. That's a good idea.
  • Reply 20 of 61
    kidredkidred Posts: 2,402member
    You got me thinking about the ports on the front and I remebered I found a G5 protype pic on hotline about 1-2 years ago. Not that I think this will ever see the light of day and I'm not saying look for this but notice the front ports-



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