Touchscreen Macs, folding iPads to arrive before the end of the decade

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Rumors claim foldable Apple products could dominate the second half of the 2020s, leveraging new screen technology to make devices such as the iPad even more portable.

A foldable tablet displays a scenic landscape next to a succulent plant, a computer mouse, and a cute cat-shaped object on a desk.
A folding iPad could bring much larger screens to Apple's tablet lineup.



Analyst Jeff Pu has been a leading advocate for a foldable tablet, expecting to see the so-called iPhone Fold debut in late 2026. This would be followed by iPads that use the same screen technology a year or so later.

Bloomberg columnist Mark Gurman, however, expects the Fold to appear in 2027, alongside folding iPads. Gurman has previously reported that Apple continues to plan for foldable devices as well as robotic devices to finally begin arriving in the latter half of the 2020s.

Meanwhile, some rumors have suggested that the first popular foldable might actually be a future iPad mini.

These reports believe it is a device that has an outer screen resembling the ones on current iPhones when folded up. Unfolded, the device would boast a larger screen close to the existing iPad mini in size.

Touchscreen and foldable Mac portables



Apple executives have traditionally downplayed the idea of a touchscreen Mac. If it were to ever appear, it would likely take the form of a portable Mac, like the MacBook Pro.

Apple has filed patents suggesting a traditional notebook computer with a touchscreen and how that might work. However, Apple's Senior VP of Software Engineering, Craig Federighi, has previously expressed doubt about the ergonomics of a laptop screen a user would touch to activate icons or services.

"We really feel that the ergonomics of using a Mac are that your hands are rested on a surface," he said in 2018. "Lifting your arm up to poke a screen is a pretty fatiguing thing to do."

That has not stopped the company from filing patents on the technology, however.

Diagram of a laptop with labeled parts: touchscreen, personal computer, and trackpad.
Patent illustration of a touchscreen MacBook model.



Some patents cover both a touchscreen display as well as a more advanced version of the existing trackpad currently found on Mac portables. However, Apple executives have traditionally resisted the idea of fusing a touchscreen Mac with an iPad.

Another factor limiting the arrival of foldable Apple devices is cost. Rival folding devices, like the $2,565 Samsung Galaxy Z Fold6, don't sell in large numbers due to their very high price.

Folding tablets would likely be even more expensive, to say nothing of a foldable MacBook. Until the screen technology needed for folding touchscreens comes down dramatically in cost, Apple is unlikely to debut larger touchscreen devices.

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  • Reply 1 of 11
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,454member
    Touchscreen Macs are overdue and they already fold the way they should. 

    A model of foldable iPad would be ok. I can think of a few portable presentation scenarios where it would come in handy. Doubt it would sell very much, but would have a market. 
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  • Reply 2 of 11
    A foldable iPad could be useful, as long as they can solve all the problems associated with foldable. However, I have a touchscreen laptop that boots Windows and Lennox, and I absolutely never use the touchscreen, it’s feels more like of a gimmick than anything. Unless an OS is designed for touch specifically, the only real practical uses are for games and artistic related things.
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  • Reply 3 of 11
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,740member
    A foldable iPad could be useful, as long as they can solve all the problems associated with foldable. However, I have a touchscreen laptop that boots Windows and Lennox, and I absolutely never use the touchscreen, it’s feels more like of a gimmick than anything. Unless an OS is designed for touch specifically, the only real practical uses are for games and artistic related things.
    I find this to be also true of the Windows users I support. They don't touch their touchscreen PCs, preferring to use the mouse/keyboard as normal for non-touch devices. Only smartphones and tablets, inherently made for touch, are popular in the market.

    Regarding foldables, I've handled the Z Fold, it's nice -- but not mainstream at anything near the price it sells for. If Apple could create a foldable iPhone or iPad that doesn't cost more than double the routine selling price -- and instead sold for a far smaller premium over the non-folding version -- they'd become market leader in that segment practically overnight.
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  • Reply 4 of 11
    thttht Posts: 5,942member
    I’m fine with no touchscreen Macs. Apple is surely weighing the feature as table stakes feature set for a laptop, and has just been waiting on timing. They will do it, even if they don’t like it.

    I’ve seen people use touchscreen laptops, and it’s an ergonomic disaster to behold. Even so, if Apple perceives the lack of it as an impediment to sales, they will implement it. 

    I would much prefer Apple implement hand and eye tracking in all their display facing devices: laptops, Studio Display, iMac and a sensor dongle for Apple TV and monitors.

    For folding iPads, I think I’d want it to have a 0-to-360 deg hinge. It can have all modes with that: handheld iPad mode, desktop iPad mode, laptop mode and vertical display mode. It should have hand and eye tracking too. 
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  • Reply 5 of 11
    dewmedewme Posts: 6,027member
    Touch is great for kiosks, POS terminals, HMIs, and other applications where keyboards get in the way. If touch screens are square pegs, I have no problem using them with devices that have a square hole that needs filling. I too often feel that technologists keep trying to force square pegs into round holes to impress themselves or to force a solution where there is no problem. I think us tech geeks forget that the rest of humanity is not nearly as geeked out by the things that excite us.

    I never want to type on glass. I think the automotive industry is having second thoughts about the attractiveness of glass cockpits. Every time I see a motor vehicle with what looks like a big iPad glued on the dashboard I just want to hurl - on it. It's ridiculous looking, focus altering, and often impractical. Most humans still have hands and fingers. Until we have computers and devices that we can control with our minds I need the tactile feedback from turning knobs, sliding sliders, pressing keys, and pushing buttons. And for the record, I vastly prefer manual transmissions on motor vehicles. Call me a caveman ...
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  • Reply 6 of 11
    narwhalnarwhal Posts: 129member
    A good reason for Apple to make touchscreen Macs is that government RFPs are often for touchscreen laptops. Apple doesn’t have such a product. Whether people would use the touchscreen is irrelevant. If Apple offered touchscreen versions of their laptops for $200 more, it would be like free money for Apple.
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  • Reply 7 of 11
    nubusnubus Posts: 829member
    narwhal said:
    A good reason for Apple to make touchscreen Macs is that government RFPs are often for touchscreen laptops. Apple doesn’t have such a product. Whether people would use the touchscreen is irrelevant. If Apple offered touchscreen versions of their laptops for $200 more, it would be like free money for Apple.
    Privacy screens would help win more contracts while tandem OLED would be nice.

    I would like 2 things:
    1. Make the Mac fun again. Colors, shapes, and having a Dogcow show paper orientation. These days Mac is too corporate.
    2. Better document handling. Finder was awesome in 1986 when I started using Mac. And then what.... the ability to work while copying a file, spring-loaded folders, search, and views from NeXT. Why can't AI structure my documents, link them in mindmaps, name them better, or take me beyond the desktop metaphor? Disrupt our way of working!
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  • Reply 8 of 11
    If Apple would release a MacBook with an Apple Pencil display I would pay premium for one! iPad as a OS still isn’t there for me yet. 
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  • Reply 9 of 11
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,454member
    dewme said:
    Touch is great for kiosks, POS terminals, HMIs, and other applications where keyboards get in the way. If touch screens are square pegs, I have no problem using them with devices that have a square hole that needs filling. I too often feel that technologists keep trying to force square pegs into round holes to impress themselves or to force a solution where there is no problem. I think us tech geeks forget that the rest of humanity is not nearly as geeked out by the things that excite us.

    I never want to type on glass. I think the automotive industry is having second thoughts about the attractiveness of glass cockpits. Every time I see a motor vehicle with what looks like a big iPad glued on the dashboard I just want to hurl - on it. It's ridiculous looking, focus altering, and often impractical. Most humans still have hands and fingers. Until we have computers and devices that we can control with our minds I need the tactile feedback from turning knobs, sliding sliders, pressing keys, and pushing buttons. And for the record, I vastly prefer manual transmissions on motor vehicles. Call me a caveman ...
    interesting points. I’ve found the opposite to be true in users. I managed all IT for an organization up to four years ago. We had a mixture of PCs and Mac’s and a windows based network. The actual power users who knew what they were doing never used the touch screens. Some of the remedial users were all about it, telling us that our systems were outdated, etc. it was hilarious. Meanwhile, it was fun watching them use their arm to just scroll a page or fat finger tiny ui elements. Many of us agreed to pros use the mouse and keyboard while the consumers” were all about the touch screens. Not because they were better. But bevause it was seen as cool. Meanwhile those of us who are ahead of the tech curve had already been there, done that, and moved on to efficiency. 

    There was one time when we really wished we had a touchscreen on the Mac’s. That was when programming and operating live event lighting, cameras, media feeds, etc. touch screens would have made that a whole lot easier, more efficient, and smoother as a production. It was a little embarassing that we didn’t have that feature when our lighting guy was out and I had to hire a guy who couldn’t learn our system quickly. So he brought his Microsoft surface desktop with touchscreen and had everything set up in half the time. We debated buying one just for that, but ultimately decided the crew was already good enough with what we had. I was going to use a touchscreen overlay on a monitor, but it didn’t seem as fast or reliable as we needed it to be. The iPad size and software limitations were likewise non-starters. 

    So though I don’t see users getting their workouts on on Mac’s too often, a touch screen does come in handy in msny cases not thpught of in the boardroom snd should be included. It’s very very minimal cost to do these days and will get used. 

    It’s always good to have options. The BMD has a great touch screen AND hardware conttols for infotainment. I don’t like to touch the screen bevause I don’t want oils on it, so I use the hardware. However, there are times I do use the touchscreen and am thankful it’s there. 


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  • Reply 10 of 11
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,450member
    I'm for Apple delivering Touchscreen iMacs so that after a year of rather dismal sales we can put this one to rest.   Touchscreen PC have been around for years and they've gotten very little traction.  The belief that Apple has the solution for every problem is foolhardy. 

    @dewme really nails it in his post.  As I get older myself I find myself really enjoying the tactile feeling of physical objects.  My wife's Outlander has this nice "thonk" when you engage the turning signal.  The feel of a well detented knob is magical. That ultra comfortable keyboard with the perfect concave keys.  I've noticed even in Music Production the higher end is moving to hybrid devices which are Analog in feel but with plugins that give you the recall and automation that you need. 

    Tapping on glass doesn't feel premium.  The opportunity here is to uncover a superior input device that leverage modern technology and makes managing the bits and bytes smooth and effortless mated with command and control Siri. 

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  • Reply 11 of 11
    AppleZuluapplezulu Posts: 2,443member
    Here we go again. Remember, macOS runs everything from a MacBook Air to a Mac Pro. A touch interface on a desktop workstation is an ergonomic nightmare. The menu-driven macOS is not conducive to touch interactions. Adding a bloatware alternative touch UI layer to the same OS did nothing for MS Windows. The MS Surface is not a device being held up in Apple boardrooms while Tim Cook screams "we have to make Apple be more like this!

    A folding iPhone is a costly gimmick with no decipherable use case.

    The only one of these things that makes any sense is a folding iPad. The would be utility to a large screen iPad that can be folded in half for easier portability. Such a device would not require an additional outer screen, and could maintain the same aspect ration for the folding screen as is used by every other iPad. This means iPad OS would require very little additional code to support the folding model. This is also true for iPadOS apps. A folding iPad would also be far less vulnerable to wear and damage from the convulsive, repetitive folding and unfolding that would quickly damage a folding iPhone. 

    Apple does not make devices to satiate fan-fiction fantasies, and they don't add bells and whistles just because other manufacturers do. The Apple pipeline is not steered by FOMO. 
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