Epic resubmits 'Fortnite' to the App Store for review, as its initial request seemingly ig...

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Epic Games has once again submitted "Fortnite" to the U.S. App Store for review, after Apple seemingly ignored its previous submission for five days.

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Epic Games has resubmitted 'Fortnite' to the U.S. App Store for review.



On May 9, after announcing its intentions a few days prior, Epic Games tried to get Fortnite back on the App Store by submitting the game for review. While most applications typically get reviewed within 24 hours, this was not the case with Fortnite. Instead, there were no developments in regards to the game's review process for more than 120 hours, or five days.

Given that its request went unanswered for such a long time, Epic Games understandably decided to cancel its initial request for a review. Fortnite leaker Shiima revealed that Epic has submitted a second review request, with the company's CEO Tim Sweeney later confirming the details himself, MacRumors notes.

Sweeney explained that Fortnite is set to receive a new content update across all platforms by May 16, and says that's why Epic Games "pulled the previous Fortnite version submitted to Apple App Review last Friday."

In the days leading up to the initial Fortnite submission, Epic's CEO appeared fairly confident that the game would return to the U.S. App Store within a matter of days. "We've told Apple what we're doing. We've told their developer relations team," commented Sweeney at the time.

"I would be very surprised if Apple took action to block it," said Tim Sweeney. "I can't imagine Apple blocking Fortnite at this point."

Sweeney seems to have been caught by surprise, judging by his previous statements, but it appears that Apple won't reinstate Fortnite without a fight. Though the exact reason for Apple's apparent inaction concerning the Fortnite submission remains unclear, the two companies' lengthy legal battle was more than likely a contributing factor.

The whole ordeal of the Epic vs. Apple saga began in 2020, when Epic attempted to bypass Apple's in-app purchase system and offer direct links to external purchase methods with Fortnite. The game was removed from the U.S. App Store because of this.

Black-and-white scene showing a crowd watching a large screen with a stylized apple wearing sunglasses; date and time displayed as August 13, 2020, 10:00.
Epic Games spent over $100 million in fees and countless hours of litigation to reach a single partial victory.



In 2021, an anti-steering injunction forced Apple to enable links to external purchase options in the United States, but the iPhone maker tried to collect a 27% fee on these purchases. The company is also said to have used "scare screens" in an attempt to dissuade consumers from using external purchase methods.

More recently, in April 2025, a federal court judge found Apple in violation of the 2021 anti-steering injunction. Apple has appealed this ruling, however, and the company announced these plans shortly after the courts made their decision.

After the judge ordered Apple to stop commissions and linking rules for external media, Epic Games CEO extended a peace offering to Apple. At the time, he said that Fortnite would return to the App Store within a week if Apple complied with the judge's order on a global scale. Sweeney's peace offer, however, appears to have been unsuccessful.

Despite Fortnite's most recent setback, in that Apple did not review the original App Store submission for more than five days, Epic Games is still trying. Sweeney appears confident that the app will make its way to the App Store eventually, but time will tell whether or not U.S. gamers will ever be able to enjoy Fortnite on iOS again.




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  • Reply 1 of 12
    chasmchasm Posts: 3,748member
    Epic is like a high school boy trying to get a girl to like him. All sweet at first, then when that doesn’t work he gets rage-y and kinda threatening, then when that doesn’t work he begs forgiveness and begs for the smallest amount of attention.
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  • Reply 2 of 12
    Nikon8nikon8 Posts: 56member
    Parents need to teach their kids to stop paying to play these games.  
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  • Reply 3 of 12
    bestkeptsecretbestkeptsecret Posts: 4,325member
    I assume Apple can refuse to host an app on the App Store without giving a reason. Can someone sue Apple for not letting their app on the App Store?*

    For all the time Fortnite was not on the App Store, there was no significant dent in Apple sales or in-app store fees (pure speculation on my part, but I am sure we would have stories if this was not the case). 
    The years Fortnite was off the store made Apple realise that they do not need it on the store.

    Now, if Apple has no incentives such as fees on in-app purchases off Fortnite and they do not have an exodus of Users leaving iOS because Fortnite is not available, why would Apple be in a rush to let it back on the App Store?

    What really is the incentive? To earn customer goodwill? I don't think most people could care any lesser than they did the past couple of years.

    *Edit: I am sure anyone can sue anyone for anything, but would the case have a legal leg to stand on?
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  • Reply 4 of 12
    I hope Apple continues to ignore Epic, not because I have anything against Fortnite being on the App Store, but this brings more attention to Apple and its abuse of its platform. So Apple, please carry on! 
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  • Reply 5 of 12
    I hope Apple continues to ignore Epic, not because I have anything against Fortnite being on the App Store, but this brings more attention to Apple and its abuse of its platform. So Apple, please carry on! 
    Thanks for the chuckle.

    I'm surprised you say "its platform." It almost seems like you're conceding that the App Store is something Apple created and controls rather than a natural human right that Apple is obligated to manage for the public good.
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  • Reply 6 of 12

    What really is the incentive? To earn customer goodwill? I don't think most people could care any lesser than they did the past couple of years.

    The incentive is the original incentive for the App Store in the first place: to make iPhones a more appealing products.

    Having said that, if Apple were precluded from mandating the payment mechanism in the first place, Apple would have charged some other fee for the privilege on being on their platform (like every developer who sells games for the PS5, etc. does to be part of that ecosystem). So I see no reason why Apple shouldn't be able to do that with Epic in this case. Win-win, right?
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  • Reply 7 of 12
    williamlondonwilliamlondon Posts: 1,512member
    I hope Apple continues to ignore Epic, not because I have anything against Fortnite being on the App Store, but this brings more attention to Apple and its abuse of its platform. So Apple, please carry on! 
    So good your looking out for the big corrupt guys like Epic, someone has to, right?!
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  • Reply 8 of 12
    JMaillejmaille Posts: 32member
    I hope Apple continues to ignore Epic, not because I have anything against Fortnite being on the App Store, but this brings more attention to Apple and its abuse of its platform. So Apple, please carry on! 
    "Apple and its abuse of its platform"?  I think you mistyped there.  Don't you mean "Apple and abuse of its platform"?  It's Epic that abused the platform and not Apple.  The court even ruled that it was okay for Apple to ban Epic from the Apple App Store because EPIC violated the developer's agreement.  

    And who is really violating whose rights?  By its latest ruling the court has clearly stated that it doesn't give a shit about the 5th and 14th Amendments to the US Constitution, so when the government decides to take YOUR property and doesn't compensate you, you won't complain, right?

    And by the way, I very well could be wrong, but isn't submitting your app from a different account after your account was banned a violation of the developer's agreement?  So, couldn't Apple just ban the EPIC Sweden account now?

    Oh, I forgot, people like you don't think companies like Apple have any legal or contract rights because "Apple bad" is as far as your mind is able to go.  

    Why am I still surprised when people post stuff like this?





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  • Reply 9 of 12
    I learned this in the 6th grade. It’s called a “Pocket Veto”. Apple doesn’t do anything about it, so they aren’t agreeing or denying it. So, can Apple really be at fault for it? They could just say they didn’t have the time to check into it.
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  • Reply 10 of 12
    mpantonempantone Posts: 2,457member
    I learned this in the 6th grade. It’s called a “Pocket Veto”. Apple doesn’t do anything about it, so they aren’t agreeing or denying it. So, can Apple really be at fault for it? They could just say they didn’t have the time to check into it.
    Yeah, however various courts have ruled that Apple has to open up their walled garden. Just ignoring Epic and letting things stay status quo is not compliant with those orders. Apple is in hot water right now because of their persistent behavior, dragging their feet, etc.

    And worse, Apple would have to ignore every single other app review request to make that "Sorry, didn't get around to it" excuse work. By selectively ignoring Epic's app review request is clear evidence of discriminatory behavior toward them. And judges typically dislike it when plaintiffs don't follow court orders.

    Note that Apple does not have any "pocket veto" authority here. In the same way, you can't just speed down your street or ignore red traffic lights because you "did't have time to look at signs and lights."
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  • Reply 11 of 12
    davidwdavidw Posts: 2,167member
    I hope Apple continues to ignore Epic, not because I have anything against Fortnite being on the App Store, but this brings more attention to Apple and its abuse of its platform. So Apple, please carry on! 

    FYI- This is what "...... abusing its platform" looks like.




    Apple (and Google) should ban Epic Games from their app stores,  for life ..... for abusing its platform.





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  • Reply 12 of 12
    davidwdavidw Posts: 2,167member
    mpantone said:
    I learned this in the 6th grade. It’s called a “Pocket Veto”. Apple doesn’t do anything about it, so they aren’t agreeing or denying it. So, can Apple really be at fault for it? They could just say they didn’t have the time to check into it.
    Yeah, however various courts have ruled that Apple has to open up their walled garden. Just ignoring Epic and letting things stay status quo is not compliant with those orders. Apple is in hot water right now because of their persistent behavior, dragging their feet, etc.

    And worse, Apple would have to ignore every single other app review request to make that "Sorry, didn't get around to it" excuse work. By selectively ignoring Epic's app review request is clear evidence of discriminatory behavior toward them. And judges typically dislike it when plaintiffs don't follow court orders.

    Note that Apple does not have any "pocket veto" authority here. In the same way, you can't just speed down your street or ignore red traffic lights because you "did't have time to look at signs and lights."

    If you were a landlord and had to evict a tenant for reasons that the courts agreed on, then you have every right to not consider renting out your unit again, to that former tenant.  That's the "pocket veto" authority Apple have. It was Epic Games that sped down the block without looking at the signs and lights because they were too stupid to consider all of the consequences.     
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