Apple prepares iOS 19, macOS 16 'Solarium' UI overhaul for WWDC

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  • Reply 21 of 24
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,670member
    brianus said:
    Do most users want these kind of UI updates? I mostly prefer not changing unless there is a problem. Both in operating systems and applications companies just seem to move things around for the hell of it.
    Absolutely not. Something useful is always lost in the transition, and frequently a new UI comes with new "system requirements" that either require a hardware upgrade outright, or result in degraded performance on older devices. Not to mention the bugs, I want Apple to improve and to innovate - "skating to where the puck is going to bell as they used to say --  not change things to change them (or to distract from the lack of innovation).

    Plus the glass UI makes no sense. On Vision Pro it does, because these floating windows obscure the real world, and transparency minimizes that as much as possible. But full-screen devices like the iPhone and watch don't have any "background" to bleed through. I suppose the folding phone's supposed Stage Manager like UI would "benefit" from this transparency when opened; maybe that's part of it, but if so that again just sounds like a Windows Vista gimmick from 20 years ago.

    A radical guess - though not likely, due to the battery implications - might be that this is related to the rumored no-bezel/all-screen 20th anniversary iPhone. What if their plan is to actually make their devices appear translucent using a video feed from the back camera? A lot of near-future sci fi depicts implausible tablet and phone sized devices which look like a literal sheet of glass, with a neon UI on top of the real world. 
    Great observations. Well stated. 
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  • Reply 22 of 24
    9secondkox29secondkox2 Posts: 3,670member

    abriden said:
    Apple can´t afford to continue with their tiny uprades from WWDC to WWDC. 

    WWDC 2024 was a disaster after Apple has failed to deliver what Apple promised. 

    Google I/O was an "All or nothing" event with survival instinct to overcome risk of their existence. Google made a great job with I/O. 
    Open AI steps up with Jony Ive to open a new chapter. 

    After those revolutionary steps from others, people clearly expect from Apple to responde with similar steps. 


    In Apple’s defense, they e kind of perfected everything except their nascent ai. Hard to make massive shifts when you’re already doing it right. 

    How Google has stayed afloat is a mystery considering its constant throwaway projects and throw things against the wall to see if they stick approach. It makes sense they fully bore in on what stuck. Bevause they do t have much in the way of great things outside of the search engine snd the entrenched Gmail. 

    Open ai HAS to do something. Competitors are getting way better and closing in. They need a differentiator. Hiring Ive is a Hail Mary shot. The amount of money going into that move is quite insane. Will see how it turns out. So far the only guarantee is jony just got rven more filthy rich. Lol. 

    Apple is in refining mode as they figure out revolutions. 
    "kind of perfected everything" ...Apple have perfected nothing.

    There are bugs in Finder that have existed as long as I can remember. The fundamentals such as font management go unresolved whilst they focus on fluff such as animojis. Their core apps progress at a glacial pace whilst they fiddle with distractions like Stage Manager.

    I no longer look forward to WWDC announcements as I have no faith in them fixing the basics.
    abriden said:
    Apple can´t afford to continue with their tiny uprades from WWDC to WWDC. 

    WWDC 2024 was a disaster after Apple has failed to deliver what Apple promised. 

    Google I/O was an "All or nothing" event with survival instinct to overcome risk of their existence. Google made a great job with I/O. 
    Open AI steps up with Jony Ive to open a new chapter. 

    After those revolutionary steps from others, people clearly expect from Apple to responde with similar steps. 


    In Apple’s defense, they e kind of perfected everything except their nascent ai. Hard to make massive shifts when you’re already doing it right. 

    How Google has stayed afloat is a mystery considering its constant throwaway projects and throw things against the wall to see if they stick approach. It makes sense they fully bore in on what stuck. Bevause they do t have much in the way of great things outside of the search engine snd the entrenched Gmail. 

    Open ai HAS to do something. Competitors are getting way better and closing in. They need a differentiator. Hiring Ive is a Hail Mary shot. The amount of money going into that move is quite insane. Will see how it turns out. So far the only guarantee is jony just got rven more filthy rich. Lol. 

    Apple is in refining mode as they figure out revolutions. 
    "kind of perfected everything" ...Apple have perfected nothing.

    There are bugs in Finder that have existed as long as I can remember. The fundamentals such as font management go unresolved whilst they focus on fluff such as animojis. Their core apps progress at a glacial pace whilst they fiddle with distractions like Stage Manager.

    I no longer look forward to WWDC announcements as I have no faith in them fixing the basics.
    “Perfected” as much as reasonably possible. 

    This is Apple. The same company that took an entire generation just to focus on leaning out and tightening up Mac OS resulting in Mountsin Lion. 

    The UI IS perfect already. I’m not talking about every little crevice you care to dive into. 

    There is zero need for a UI shift. This is change for the sake of change. The ui on the VP makes sense for that device but zero sense for phone or laptop/desktop/tablet. 

    It would work with glasses. But not computers. On those devices tje ui become windows vista-Esau’s cruft. 

    Would be better if Mac OS borrowed from current iOS ui across the board. Mac OS has more icing than it needs. Vision Pro elements just add more extra stuff that’s unevessary with old school elements like multiple gradients and bezels. Gross. Necessary for AVP. but doesn’t belong on a phone, tablet, or computer unless those displays are transparent. And even then isn’t actually necessary. 
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  • Reply 23 of 24
    Lettucelettuce Posts: 36member
    iOS will use the camera to let in real world color and lighting information. It’s obvious. 
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  • Reply 24 of 24
    22july201322july2013 Posts: 3,844member
    I was hoping for a codename, like Sequoia, that starts with an S, contains a Q, and is just as hard to spell. Maybe "Soliloquy." We all need to learn to spell better.
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