iPhone 17 out in public, blockbuster earnings, and more on the AppleInsider Podcast

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Apple defied Wall Street with earnings, and almost in parallel, the company intentionally released the iOS 26 public beta and inadvertently showed us an iPhone 17. We talk about it all, on the AppleInsider Podcast.

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Inset: an iPhone 17 seen in the wild



If you ever doubted the rumors of the iPhone 17 range getting a camera bar -- and originally, it did seem doubtful -- then you have to accept now since one has been seen in the wild. It was spotted in just enough of a shaky long-distance shot that it's spawned conspiracy theories, but it's an iPhone with a camera bar.

And this week so many iPhones are going to have got the new iOS 26 for the first time as Apple released the public beta of it, iPadOS 26, macOS Tahoe, and more. Don't do it to yourself, though: wait until it's all officially released around September.

Or in the meantime, listen to people who've been using the developer betas for weeks. One of whom spent the hour before this show on the phone to Apple Support, flummoxing them with the problems that the beta may have caused.



Also this week, it's looking likely that JP Morgan Chase may replace Goldman Sachs as the provider behind Apple Card. Existing users would be unlikely to see any difference, but because of the backgrounds of these two finance companies, the chances of Apple Card going international just went up.

So did Apple's earnings. The company's latest report revealed that tariffs cost Apple $800 million on the quarter, but it still managed to defy Wall Street's guesswork about it . And that was because of people buying the iPhone before tariffs kicked in, and a better-than-expected quarter in China.

The call has become almost a parody of itself, not because of Apple, but because of the ridiculous questions from some of the analysts. Why is it that analysts on the call never seem to listen to the prepared remarks, and imagine that they'll tease future product plans out of Tim Cook?

Behind the scenes during the call, Amber Neely jokingly said that we should do analyst bingo cards with things like "we do not comment on unreleased products" and back-to-back analysts asking essentially the same question. For better or worse, our managing editor, Mike Wuerthele said yes.

So, look for bingo cards for earnings from us next quarter.

BONUS: Subscribe via Patreon or Apple Podcasts to hear AppleInsider+, the extended edition. This time, if you're thinking of installing the public beta of iOS 26 and the rest, you'd best hear what it's really been like Living with the Betas.

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