Apple's bid to close the AI gap could be hampered by AI brain drain

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After the loss of about a dozen AI engineers, developing Apple Intelligence features and shipping that improved Siri in 2026 could be more difficult than Apple hoped.

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Apple Intelligence continues to flounder



Apple CEO Tim Cook and SVP Craig Federighi recently told employees that AI would be a focus going forward. But a new report claims that the company continues to lose key AI talent to the competition.

"Apple has lost around a dozen of its artificial intelligence staff, including top researchers," a Financial Times report warns. Meta, OpenAI, xAI, and AI startup Cohere are said to be the companies picking at the bones of Apple's AI teams.

The report notes that OpenAI has already poached Brandon McKinzie and Dian Ang Yap. Both were foundational models research engineers at Apple.

Machine learning scientist Liutong Zhou was reportedly hired by Chohere. Ruoming Pang, head of Apple's foundational models team, now works for Meta.

The Facebook owner recently kick-started an AI hiring spree thanks to a $100 million pool for signing bonuses.

Low-hanging fruit



Aaron Sines, director of AI recruiting at Razoroo, told the Financial Times that the loss of Pang is particularly problematic. Pang's move to Meta has given the industry the belief that Apple's AI engineers are ripe for the taking, when the offer is right.

Other AI team losses reportedly include Mark Lee, Tom Gunter, Bowen Zhang, and Shuang Ma. All left Apple for Meta.

This comes amid growing competition in the AI space. Apple currently leverages OpenAI's ChatGPT when Siri can't handle a question itself, a sign that it still has plenty of catching up to do. Losses of key personnel are unlikely to help.

Apple has already seen its AI tools suffer delays, even before the most recent engineer exodus. A revamped and much-improved Siri experience was announced alongside iOS 18 and is still missing from recent iOS 26 betas.

Federighi, Apple's software engineering chief, told employees that the delay was because it was trying to bring large language models to existing Siri systems. "We initially wanted to do a hybrid architecture, but we realized that approach wasn't going to get us to Apple quality," Federighi said.

As a result, Apple is now back to the drawing board and intends to work on an "end-to-end" rebuild of Siri. But it needs AI engineers to make that happen.

Shallow hiring pool, deep needs



While some employee churn is to be expected, it's not clear if these departures are at Silicon Valley's normal high turnover rate. And departures are easy to spot, whereas initial hires are far harder.

As compared to other engineering disciplines that Apple needs, Sines believes that there are only "a thousand, maybe two thousand" engineers in total across the entire hiring body that Silicon Valley is picking from who have top-notch foundational model experience. Apple will hope to hire, and then retain, as many of them as possible.

But with companies like Meta willing to throw huge amounts of money at the best engineers around, that could be difficult. Apple doesn't have a reputation for being the highest-paying outfit in Silicon Valley -- and that might need to change.



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  • Reply 1 of 4
    byronlbyronl Posts: 387member
    Apple pays less for AI talent (sometimes significantly less, look at Meta) plus other companies are ahead. It seems logical to me that top talent would go elsewhere. 
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    danoxdanox Posts: 3,910member
    If you’re going to work for Zuckerberg, Elon or Sam you better make sure you get most of your money payed upfront and good luck because you’re going to need it…..

    And don’t forget that six or seven figure lawyer that you need to hire and pay to negotiate the deal. (for most probably for the first time in their career). And top if off there is no moat around AI, usually with so many competitors across the world, there is a tendency for big breakthroughs to come from out of nowhere from places you least expect it most of the companies spending this type of money won’t have much to show for it in the end. Maybe that’s when the bubble bursts and the AI party comes to an end and it will end.

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    ApplePoorapplepoor Posts: 399member
    Still nothing in the "26" software on all of the Apple equipment except the Googles (which I did not waste my money on) to cause me to turn on Apple AI.

    Siri remains extremely limited. It can sometimes do the coffee countdown but whether it is running on my iPhone or Watch can not be discerned.

    Tim blew lots of $$$$  on smoke and mirrors for the car project and the Googles. Bet he wishes he had those funds now to hire more than janitors. Being late to the personnel acquisition party gives the employer the selection of the "C" average students vs  top of class students and they have zero real work experience.

    Apple has gone from being the top of the crop to a bottom feeder in about a year and a half. Darn Shame and did not need to happen.

    Tim will still get his bonus from the brain dead Board of Directors that should be telling Tim what to do. That is the function the BoD. I would imagine eachBoD member gets $10,000 per BoD meeting.....


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    ApplePoor said:
    Still nothing in the "26" software on all of the Apple equipment except the Googles (which I did not waste my money on) to cause me to turn on Apple AI.

    Siri remains extremely limited. It can sometimes do the coffee countdown but whether it is running on my iPhone or Watch can not be discerned.

    Tim blew lots of $$$$  on smoke and mirrors for the car project and the Googles. Bet he wishes he had those funds now to hire more than janitors. Being late to the personnel acquisition party gives the employer the selection of the "C" average students vs  top of class students and they have zero real work experience.

    Apple has gone from being the top of the crop to a bottom feeder in about a year and a half. Darn Shame and did not need to happen.

    Tim will still get his bonus from the brain dead Board of Directors that should be telling Tim what to do. That is the function the BoD. I would imagine eachBoD member gets $10,000 per BoD meeting.....


    The real cost of projects like the car isn’t the out of pocket expenses spent on the project but rather the opportunity costs on what that time and money could have been used for instead.
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