Well, the count has begun, and my country is not doing all that bad (we are first actually after five votes!). Just seeing how it goes. We aren't this lucky normally...
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH! We finish two points from the winner. We lead the count throughout the final votes and get thrown out at the last, final ****ing vote, from Slovenia!
How do you mean? (am I right to suppose that Denmark wasn't in the running tonight, it's hard to keep track of those things). Aw man, the tension. We were running so good, leaving behind Russia's beloved t.A.T.u by more than 20 points, and then next-to-last, Sweden, of all places decided Norway (our GOOD FREAKING NEIGHBOURS) deserved 12 points, and Belgium none.
How do you mean? (am I right to suppose that Denmark wasn't in the running tonight, it's hard to keep track of those things). Aw man, the tension. We were running so good, leaving behind Russia's beloved t.A.T.u by more than 20 points, and then next-to-last, Sweden, of all places decided Norway (our GOOD FREAKING NEIGHBOURS) deserved 12 points, and Belgium none.
The euro song contest is for grandmothers. Just look who won for us last time:
Eurovision: Where politics and 100% pure cheese entertainment combine!
Barto
PS It's getting harder all the time (snigger) to differentiate music videos from porn.
True. Where chauvinism reigns as well, with all of Europe rooting for their country and their country alone.
Porn is not something you're likely to see at the festival though. Seeing this is viewed by (some claim) 700 million people easily, some/many of them living in somewhat conservative countries (I'm not sure how the mores are in countries like Slovenia, Ukraine, Turkey, all participating tonight). In any case, nobody'll flash on that stage, and the Russian girls were prohibited very strictly to perform their lesbian kissing act.
Porn is not something you're likely to see at the festival though. In any case, nobody'll flash on that stage, and the Russian girls were prohibited very strictly to perform their lesbian kissing act.
I remember an Israeli group back in 2000 called Popism or some such..where the very tall blonde girl was jumping around doing occasional high kicks..
Just normal stage antics.
Only trouble is, she some how "accidently '" forgot to wear knickers under her extremely short mini... 8)
1. Post-Iraq backlash (which seems a bit unfair, a lot of the British people were very much against the invasion of Iraq - "Not In Our Name!")
2. More crucially, our singers were singing in a different key to the backing track.
The UK is rather unique in being the only country not to take Eurovision seriously. I reckon if we sent one of our heavyweight artists like Robbie Williams or Kylie in we'd be more likely to win it. Problem is, none of our established talent want to be associated with it in case it affects their careers.
The UK is rather unique in being the only country not to take Eurovision seriously. I reckon if we sent one of our heavyweight artists like Robbie Williams or Kylie in we'd be more likely to win it. Problem is, none of our established talent want to be associated with it in case it affects their careers.
I don´t think its unique for UK. I know the same goes for us and I really really it goes for all countries.
& didn't Bjork get a boot on in the Yooro's songavision thingamajig...?
Everybody loves ABBA, no? I don't think, however, that Bjork took part in the festival. I'm not sure, and I'm very fallible in what I know, but... You might be thinking of Celine Dion?\
Everybody loves ABBA, no? I don't think, however, that Bjork took part in the festival. I'm not sure, and I'm very fallible in what I know, but... You might be thinking of Celine Dion?\
Der Kopf, I suspect my memory on all things Eurovision to be rusty..
I saw it live..well 24 hours later live...in Oz..
So how come No Italy ?
Did Italy get put in the musical sin-bin ?
I bet they punched out a referee?
Got a yellow card then sent off the field ?
And how come that all the countries sang in English?
( well at least that's how it sounded to my ears )
Perhaps.. the hosting country should ask all the contestants to sing in the language of their host country..
Eurovision was one of the most entertaining things that I've experienced in my year abroad. It was absolutely hilarious. And Britain got 0 points, which it made it even funnier. I have to say, Turkey was horrible, I have no idea how they won. I thought, from a pure song standpoint, Spain was the best, though I liked Estonia.
But had I actually called in and voted, it would have been for Austria. That guy was great!
Der Kopf, I suspect my memory on all things Eurovision to be rusty..
I saw it live..well 24 hours later live...in Oz..
So how come No Italy ?
Did Italy get put in the musical sin-bin ?
I bet they punched out a referee?
Got a yellow card then sent off the field ?
Seeing there are more than 40 candidates to compete these days (just add up all the countries between Iceland and Russia, between Norway and Malta, and Turkey and Israel), and there is only time and place for 26 contestants, the powers that be (an assembly of national broadcasting organisations) have worked out a scheme in which 'bad contestants' get thrown out for one year, I'm not sure about the specifics, but I know Belgium hasn't competed once because of this, and that's what happening to many countries now. We won't be seeing the UK next year.
Nothing to worry about, in any case, the rules of the growing game, that's all. Used to be a time when there were about 12 contestants...
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And how come that all the countries sang in English?
( well at least that's how it sounded to my ears )
Perhaps.. the hosting country should ask all the contestants to sing in the language of their host country..
That would seem fair...
Great discussions about this in the past, and it has been the rule till a few years (not more than five) back to sing in the contestant's own language, but it was changed to give everybody a 'fairer chance,' sadly (?) enough. I guess Ireland winning, like, 3 times in a row might have ticked some countries off. Mind you, there were still countries singing in their own language (I'm thinking of Russia) and Belgium even brought something in a language I DON'T know, must have been something celtic. In any case, listening to Balkan singers mangle English horribly only seems to add to the utter cheesiness of the festival. I think most people only watch the 'votes' part of the show (I know I do mostly, if I watch at all). The votes are what's really famous about the festival, and that's where national rivality, and geo-politics are unveiled to the conscious viewer (Germany giving its traditional 12 points to Turkey for instance...).
Also, these matters are not up to the discetion of the hosting country, they are merely the hosts. All decisions like this are made by the said powers that be.
Actually, if I understand it correctly, UK will be back by virtue of the fact that they pay lots of money and help keep Eurovision afloat. UK, Germany, and France all have this exemption, I think.
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Still, Belgium hasn't done this well in ages.
And whoever I was debating Turkey with: Turkey not seen as a part of Europe? Why the hell would we let them win then?8)
(and they didn´t have to be gay for acceptance like some other aeuro-boardering countries
Originally posted by Anders the White
Its an honour not to win the song contenst.
How do you mean? (am I right to suppose that Denmark wasn't in the running tonight, it's hard to keep track of those things). Aw man, the tension. We were running so good, leaving behind Russia's beloved t.A.T.u by more than 20 points, and then next-to-last, Sweden, of all places decided Norway (our GOOD FREAKING NEIGHBOURS) deserved 12 points, and Belgium none.
Originally posted by der Kopf
How do you mean? (am I right to suppose that Denmark wasn't in the running tonight, it's hard to keep track of those things). Aw man, the tension. We were running so good, leaving behind Russia's beloved t.A.T.u by more than 20 points, and then next-to-last, Sweden, of all places decided Norway (our GOOD FREAKING NEIGHBOURS) deserved 12 points, and Belgium none.
The euro song contest is for grandmothers. Just look who won for us last time:
Eurovision: Where politics and 100% pure cheese entertainment combine!
Barto
PS It's getting harder all the time (snigger) to differentiate music videos from porn.
Originally posted by Barto
It's that time of year again I see...
Eurovision: Where politics and 100% pure cheese entertainment combine!
Barto
PS It's getting harder all the time (snigger) to differentiate music videos from porn.
True. Where chauvinism reigns as well, with all of Europe rooting for their country and their country alone.
Porn is not something you're likely to see at the festival though. Seeing this is viewed by (some claim) 700 million people easily, some/many of them living in somewhat conservative countries (I'm not sure how the mores are in countries like Slovenia, Ukraine, Turkey, all participating tonight). In any case, nobody'll flash on that stage, and the Russian girls were prohibited very strictly to perform their lesbian kissing act.
Originally posted by der Kopf
Porn is not something you're likely to see at the festival though. In any case, nobody'll flash on that stage, and the Russian girls were prohibited very strictly to perform their lesbian kissing act.
I remember an Israeli group back in 2000 called Popism or some such..where the very tall blonde girl was jumping around doing occasional high kicks..
Just normal stage antics.
Only trouble is, she some how "accidently '" forgot to wear knickers under her extremely short mini...
Pity I scrubbed the video...
2 big reasons for that:
1. Post-Iraq backlash (which seems a bit unfair, a lot of the British people were very much against the invasion of Iraq - "Not In Our Name!")
2. More crucially, our singers were singing in a different key to the backing track.
The UK is rather unique in being the only country not to take Eurovision seriously. I reckon if we sent one of our heavyweight artists like Robbie Williams or Kylie in we'd be more likely to win it. Problem is, none of our established talent want to be associated with it in case it affects their careers.
Anyway..why didn't Pommyland enter these guys..they'd ave walked it in...
Originally posted by Dave_The_Vinyl_Junkie
The UK is rather unique in being the only country not to take Eurovision seriously. I reckon if we sent one of our heavyweight artists like Robbie Williams or Kylie in we'd be more likely to win it. Problem is, none of our established talent want to be associated with it in case it affects their careers.
I don´t think its unique for UK. I know the same goes for us and I really really it goes for all countries.
Kylie? Isn´t she australian?
[i] Kylie? Isn´t she australian? [/B]
Yep.
As is Rolf Harris...
And as were the Bee Gees for a little while anyway...they started in Oz....
But why doesn't anyone love ABBA
& didn't Bjork get a boot on in the Yooro's songavision thingamajig...?
Originally posted by aquafire
But why doesn't anyone love ABBA
& didn't Bjork get a boot on in the Yooro's songavision thingamajig...?
Everybody loves ABBA, no? I don't think, however, that Bjork took part in the festival. I'm not sure, and I'm very fallible in what I know, but... You might be thinking of Celine Dion?
Originally posted by der Kopf
Everybody loves ABBA, no? I don't think, however, that Bjork took part in the festival. I'm not sure, and I'm very fallible in what I know, but... You might be thinking of Celine Dion?
Der Kopf, I suspect my memory on all things Eurovision to be rusty..
I saw it live..well 24 hours later live...in Oz..
So how come No Italy ?
Did Italy get put in the musical sin-bin ?
I bet they punched out a referee?
Got a yellow card then sent off the field ?
And how come that all the countries sang in English?
( well at least that's how it sounded to my ears )
Perhaps.. the hosting country should ask all the contestants to sing in the language of their host country..
That would seem fair...
But had I actually called in and voted, it would have been for Austria. That guy was great!
Originally posted by aquafire
Der Kopf, I suspect my memory on all things Eurovision to be rusty..
I saw it live..well 24 hours later live...in Oz..
So how come No Italy ?
Did Italy get put in the musical sin-bin ?
I bet they punched out a referee?
Got a yellow card then sent off the field ?
Seeing there are more than 40 candidates to compete these days (just add up all the countries between Iceland and Russia, between Norway and Malta, and Turkey and Israel), and there is only time and place for 26 contestants, the powers that be (an assembly of national broadcasting organisations) have worked out a scheme in which 'bad contestants' get thrown out for one year, I'm not sure about the specifics, but I know Belgium hasn't competed once because of this, and that's what happening to many countries now. We won't be seeing the UK next year.
Nothing to worry about, in any case, the rules of the growing game, that's all. Used to be a time when there were about 12 contestants...
And how come that all the countries sang in English?
( well at least that's how it sounded to my ears )
Perhaps.. the hosting country should ask all the contestants to sing in the language of their host country..
That would seem fair...
Great discussions about this in the past, and it has been the rule till a few years (not more than five) back to sing in the contestant's own language, but it was changed to give everybody a 'fairer chance,' sadly (?) enough. I guess Ireland winning, like, 3 times in a row might have ticked some countries off. Mind you, there were still countries singing in their own language (I'm thinking of Russia) and Belgium even brought something in a language I DON'T know, must have been something celtic. In any case, listening to Balkan singers mangle English horribly only seems to add to the utter cheesiness of the festival. I think most people only watch the 'votes' part of the show (I know I do mostly, if I watch at all). The votes are what's really famous about the festival, and that's where national rivality, and geo-politics are unveiled to the conscious viewer (Germany giving its traditional 12 points to Turkey for instance...).
Also, these matters are not up to the discetion of the hosting country, they are merely the hosts. All decisions like this are made by the said powers that be.
Not wonder you like it Der Kopf..
I have to go to sleep ( it's 2 am ) here..
You'll probably have a laugh ..or not over the Europe thing I've just posted..
Adios
Originally posted by der Kopf
We won't be seeing the UK next year.
Actually, if I understand it correctly, UK will be back by virtue of the fact that they pay lots of money and help keep Eurovision afloat. UK, Germany, and France all have this exemption, I think.
Why would anyone in Europe see it?