Eric Clapton shouldn't even be on the invite list. I don't know where people get the idea he's this amazing guitarist. Yes his stuff is pretty distinctive sounding and he's a great song writer, but he's not even close to being one of the best guitarists in the world.
i seriously don't see how you can say that.
Listen to the Jams CD on the Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs Box Set or Live at the Fillmore or any Live Cream and tell me he should not even be on the invite list.
Clapton never plays a bad note. He's amazing clean, extremely creative, smooth, you name it... he can do it.
He can adjust from heavy to jazz to acoustic to blues to pop to whatever.
Jimmy Page is of course amazing but he certainly wasn't a clean playing guitarist. Different style.
I don't know. This is too hard to judge. Waste of time to try to decide
I say Tim Reynolds, too. I have heard him do stuff with a guitar that I didn't think was possible.
If you get the chance sometime, listen to "Live at Luther College," the album he did with Dave Matthews. Track 2 ("Stream") on Disc 2 will blow your mind. He gets to a point in it where you would SWEAR that there have to be two guitarists, but it's just him. Wow.
That's an easy question...Eric Clapton of course 8)
You obviouusly don't really know much about guitar playing . . . or the blues . . . Eric Clapton is amazingly OVER RATED . . . amazingly so . . . his styly is languid, his chops are hack and tend towards cliche and his song writing is terrible with the exception of a few good songs with Cream and Derick and the Dominoes . . .
just reviewed the thread and very glad to see MOOGS who sees through the smog!!!!
There's just no way to tell who is the best pop/rock/blues guitarist, because those genres just don't put anyone's abilities to the test. Yes, I'm a dick for saying that. But it's true.
This is not true . . . anything can become about skill and talent and creativity . . . even if it were a genre of one note music
there would be people who would understand that one note and pluck it perfectly while others would only copy them
Truly good guitar playing transcends "ability" and "technique" and becomes voice, style and sheer creation
And there are many truly amazing voices in Jazz in rock and in blues
Clearly the best, and his live albums and bootlegs show it is:
Jimi Hendrix
He took the medium to a truly epic place: his playing transcended the genre and became an artistic act . . . hell they are works of LITERATURE of high magnitude
Version of Machine from the film sountrack album
The version of Are You Experienced from the Concerts Album . . . (not the intro but the middle part)
THEY ARE SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are also some real Blues Masters whos playing is phenomenal . . . they wouldn't be able to play a Back Etude . . . . But a classical master would sound like a fool trying to grasp their work as well . . .
buddy guy maybe too, i once saw buddy play an open air date that had train tracks run parallel to the stage, and sure enough midway through buddy's set a train blasted it's horn as it was passing by, deftly buddy and the band shifted keys to the key the train horn sounded in and proceeded to duet with the locomotive into the distance. i will never forget it.
And also add that Stevee Ray Vaughn was good but he was really just another in a whole row of immitator blues guitarists . . . post Hendrix . .(randy Travers, Robin Trower etc etc) . . . who missunderstood where Hendrix's real genius lie : not just in fast blues runs but in tradition-deep invention and contact with the spirit of the blues . . .
SRVaughn was a Blues-Bar guitarist
The only guitarist that comes close to the depth of Hendrix is a SAXOPHONIST - - - and that is, of course, John Coltrane
I was 17 and learning guitar . . . it was when I heard Live Cream, after going through the other Cream stuff, that I knew that Eric Clapton was NOT A GREAT GUITARIST
listen to his endless aimless rambling, he has no sense of developing a phrase or building an arc . . . no sense of developing a story with his playing . . . he strings together some cliched blues riffs and that's it . . . .aimless . .
if improvisation is the story then the player has to be able to develope and speak in sentences that lead to paragraphs that lead to stories that mean something:
Hendrix
Zappa was actually an incredibly inventive and poetic soloist
I was 17 and learning guitar . . . it was when I heard Live Cream, after going through the other Cream stuff, that I knew that Eric Clapton was NOT A GREAT GUITARIST
listen to his endless aimless rambling, he has no sense of developing a phrase or building an arc . . . no sense of developing a story with his playing . . . he strings together some cliched blues riffs and that's it . . . .aimless . .
if improvisation is the story then the player has to be able to develope and speak in sentences that lead to paragraphs that lead to stories that mean something:
Hendrix
Zappa was actually an incredibly inventive and poetic soloist
Mark Ribaud (sp?)
with your logic I would say Raffi is the best guitarist ever :-)
I was 17 and learning guitar . . . it was when I heard Live Cream, after going through the other Cream stuff that I knew that Eric Clapton was NOT A GREAT GUITARIST
listen to his endless aimless rambling, he has know sense of developing a phrase and building an arc . . . no sense of developing a story with his playing . . . he strings together some cliched blues riffs and that's it . . . .aimless . .
if improvisation is the story then the player has to be able to develope and speak in sentences that lead to paragraphs that lead to stories that mean something:
Hendrix
Zappa was actually an incredibly inventive and poetic soloist
Mark Ribaud (sp?)
i think clapton might agree with you regarding cream.
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Trey Anastasio
Ryan Adams
Stanley Jordan
Walter Becker
Jeff "Skunk" Baxter
Wolfgang Muthspiel
That's right. both one half of Steely Dan and a celebrated Steely Dan session player make the list.
As for dead musicians: Nick Drake.
Jerry Garcia? Yawn.
Eric Clapton? His career peaked with MTV Unplugged
Carlos Santana? Hoping Michelle Branch's fans will buy his records = Way past his prime.
Originally posted by Moogs
Eric Clapton shouldn't even be on the invite list. I don't know where people get the idea he's this amazing guitarist. Yes his stuff is pretty distinctive sounding and he's a great song writer, but he's not even close to being one of the best guitarists in the world.
i seriously don't see how you can say that.
Listen to the Jams CD on the Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs Box Set or Live at the Fillmore or any Live Cream and tell me he should not even be on the invite list.
Clapton never plays a bad note. He's amazing clean, extremely creative, smooth, you name it... he can do it.
He can adjust from heavy to jazz to acoustic to blues to pop to whatever.
Jimmy Page is of course amazing but he certainly wasn't a clean playing guitarist. Different style.
I don't know. This is too hard to judge. Waste of time to try to decide
If you get the chance sometime, listen to "Live at Luther College," the album he did with Dave Matthews. Track 2 ("Stream") on Disc 2 will blow your mind. He gets to a point in it where you would SWEAR that there have to be two guitarists, but it's just him. Wow.
Originally posted by Bioflavonoid
Me.
ahhh yes, the legend of lakewood....
Trevor Rabin
I can't believe you guys missed them!
Originally posted by Dale Sorel
That's an easy question...Eric Clapton of course 8)
You obviouusly don't really know much about guitar playing . . . or the blues . . . Eric Clapton is amazingly OVER RATED . . . amazingly so . . . his styly is languid, his chops are hack and tend towards cliche and his song writing is terrible with the exception of a few good songs with Cream and Derick and the Dominoes . . .
just reviewed the thread and very glad to see MOOGS who sees through the smog!!!!
right on Moogs.
Andre Segovia
Christopher Parkening
......as good as it gets.
Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar
ahhh yes, the legend of lakewood....
Originally posted by BR
Tom Morello.
OMG That's wut I wuz going 2 say! We R liek twnz!
Well "best" I think is completely ridiculous to even discuss, what the hell does it even mean?
But my favorite is Morello. That guy is rokken like Dokken.
Steven Stills
Nuno Bettencourt (Extreme)
Lindsay Buckingham
Paul Barrere (Little Feat)
Duane Allman
Ronny Montrose
Originally posted by BRussell
There's just no way to tell who is the best pop/rock/blues guitarist, because those genres just don't put anyone's abilities to the test. Yes, I'm a dick for saying that. But it's true.
This is not true . . . anything can become about skill and talent and creativity . . . even if it were a genre of one note music
there would be people who would understand that one note and pluck it perfectly while others would only copy them
Truly good guitar playing transcends "ability" and "technique" and becomes voice, style and sheer creation
And there are many truly amazing voices in Jazz in rock and in blues
Clearly the best, and his live albums and bootlegs show it is:
Jimi Hendrix
He took the medium to a truly epic place: his playing transcended the genre and became an artistic act . . . hell they are works of LITERATURE of high magnitude
Version of Machine from the film sountrack album
The version of Are You Experienced from the Concerts Album . . . (not the intro but the middle part)
THEY ARE SUBLIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
There are also some real Blues Masters whos playing is phenomenal . . . they wouldn't be able to play a Back Etude . . . . But a classical master would sound like a fool trying to grasp their work as well . . .
Originally posted by superkarate monkeydeathcar
buddy guy maybe too, i once saw buddy play an open air date that had train tracks run parallel to the stage, and sure enough midway through buddy's set a train blasted it's horn as it was passing by, deftly buddy and the band shifted keys to the key the train horn sounded in and proceeded to duet with the locomotive into the distance. i will never forget it.
That's not as hard as it sounds
SRVaughn was a Blues-Bar guitarist
The only guitarist that comes close to the depth of Hendrix is a SAXOPHONIST - - - and that is, of course, John Coltrane
Originally posted by pfflam
That's not as hard as it sounds
i didn't say it was hard.
i said it was memorable.
besides the train only knew one note.
Originally posted by pfflam
Jimi Hendrix
I agree---too bad he couldn't put down the sauce---he made a huge impact.....
Moon Turn The Tides, Gently
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Originally posted by applenut
or any Live Cream and
I was 17 and learning guitar . . . it was when I heard Live Cream, after going through the other Cream stuff, that I knew that Eric Clapton was NOT A GREAT GUITARIST
listen to his endless aimless rambling, he has no sense of developing a phrase or building an arc . . . no sense of developing a story with his playing . . . he strings together some cliched blues riffs and that's it . . . .aimless . .
if improvisation is the story then the player has to be able to develope and speak in sentences that lead to paragraphs that lead to stories that mean something:
Hendrix
Zappa was actually an incredibly inventive and poetic soloist
Mark Ribaud (sp?)
Originally posted by pfflam
I was 17 and learning guitar . . . it was when I heard Live Cream, after going through the other Cream stuff, that I knew that Eric Clapton was NOT A GREAT GUITARIST
listen to his endless aimless rambling, he has no sense of developing a phrase or building an arc . . . no sense of developing a story with his playing . . . he strings together some cliched blues riffs and that's it . . . .aimless . .
if improvisation is the story then the player has to be able to develope and speak in sentences that lead to paragraphs that lead to stories that mean something:
Hendrix
Zappa was actually an incredibly inventive and poetic soloist
Mark Ribaud (sp?)
with your logic I would say Raffi is the best guitarist ever :-)
Baby Beluga......
got i love Raffi
Originally posted by pfflam
I was 17 and learning guitar . . . it was when I heard Live Cream, after going through the other Cream stuff that I knew that Eric Clapton was NOT A GREAT GUITARIST
listen to his endless aimless rambling, he has know sense of developing a phrase and building an arc . . . no sense of developing a story with his playing . . . he strings together some cliched blues riffs and that's it . . . .aimless . .
if improvisation is the story then the player has to be able to develope and speak in sentences that lead to paragraphs that lead to stories that mean something:
Hendrix
Zappa was actually an incredibly inventive and poetic soloist
Mark Ribaud (sp?)
i think clapton might agree with you regarding cream.
marc ribot
if you're talking about the guy who plays with waits, and yes he's fantastic. so was frank.
Originally posted by pfflam
You obviouusly don't really know much about guitar playing . . .
Hey, it's a freakin' Internet forum already...why am I supposed to know anything about guitar playing
Still, Vaughn is a close second to Clapton