"Hasta la Vista, Titanium;" LiquidMetal is tougher

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  • Reply 21 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Randycat99:

    <strong>Perhaps the technical term you want is "brittleness"? (snip)



    ...But enough of the negativity. Myself, I'm kind of intrigued by this development and its potential applications. I can't believe it has been around as long as it has, and I never knew anything about it (maybe that suggests a marketing penetration issue?).</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Well, brittleness isn't something they are inclined to advertise and that trait was passed onto me by a Caltech materials engineer that had worked with the stuff.



    Don't get me wrong - it's cool stuff, but it's not without its flaws.



    All materials developments have trouble with market penetration - particularly when they come from outside of a core industry. Materials failures contribute to a substantial number of engineering disasters (WTC, most airline disasters, Challenger, Titanic, and so on) so companies generally don't leap on innovative new materials without extensive testing.
  • Reply 22 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by johnsonwax:

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    It doesn't need to have the same velocity - it needs to generate the same stress on the metal. A childs wooden block is damn hard to break in half, but I can break a 4' 2x2 without any assistance.



    A TiBook frame would consist of long, thin pieces of metal compared to a solid lump for the clubhead. Liquidmetal doesn't flex like aluminum or titanium does - it fractures. That's part of why it bounces so well - the metal doesn't deform and absorb the energy transferred to it (that's not the only reason why it bounces well, but it's part of it.) You drop that TiBook on it's corner from 5' on a tile floor, and I'd say you have a reasonable chance of fracturing it.



    The same is true of glass. Drop a glass marble from even 15 feet to a concrete floor and it'll likely bounce and not shatter. Drop a picture frame from 2 feet to a floating wood floor and it's probably a gonner.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    just a quick note: golf clubs are not solid lumps they are thin walled, and hollow, so they too have thin pieces.



    If you read the website or watch the info like true geek then it goes on about how it is not brittle, and it is very elastic.



    Maybe the tibook would just bounce right back to you. <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />



    I think the properties of this stuff will make it common place when they get the process down and make it cheap.
  • Reply 23 of 26
    noahjnoahj Posts: 4,503member
    All of the detractors that spesk on how brittle it must be.





    Stronger, Lighter, Shapelier

    LiquidMetal has some distinct advantages over

    stainless steel and titanium.



    Yield strength (1,000 lbs./sq. in.)



    Stress level at which damage occurs.

    Titanium 115

    Stainless Steel 126

    LiquidMetal 275



    Strength-to-weight ratio

    Higher is better.

    Titanium 26

    Stainless Steel 16

    LiquidMetal 45



    Elasticity Extent a material can be bent without damage.

    Titanium 0.69%

    Stainless Steel 0.44%

    LiquidMetal 2.0%



    Hardness The "Vickers" test -- higher is better.

    Titanium 340

    Stainless Steel 325

    LiquidMetal 550



    If they are right on these it seems that all your drawbacks are totally unfounded, except price.



    Very cool stuff.
  • Reply 24 of 26
    frykefryke Posts: 217member
    We are Borg. (In reference to the armour plates...)
  • Reply 26 of 26
    Hmm, the article says about liquidmetal that "It looks more like coal and hefts like gold"

    Now, if it is very hefty like the article reports, I wonder if a liquidmetal case would be heavier than a plastic case in a laptop..
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