Sigh...I'm so underappreciated. You also have to have seen the Steve Ballmer screaming monkey thing, but I figured you all would have. Domo-Kun is a Japanese character, kind of like Pikachu but not as popular/well-known in the US. Not really important, he just has good swinging arms.
Yes, it's a multi-layered subreference. Ballmer literally went apesh!t at a MS developers conference. One guy turned it into a song. Some other guy turned that song into a video. And this last person replaced that video of Ballmer with a video of a Japanese TV mascot.
It's crazy, it's funny,... it's kind of unsettling (Ballmer's personality and that freaky mascot).
Shouldn't have read this thread...now I'm going to have 'Developers, developers, developers, developers' going through my head for the rest of the day...
The 12-inch PowerBook is a "small fully-featured notebook." A subnotebook would skip the optical drive for additional space- and weight-savings.
Escher
Wayyy back in the day, when Escher was using a 2400, and the current iBook form factor didn't exist, I sympathized with him. Apple did need a smaller, lighter notebook.
But now, when we have a beautiful, tiny laptop available to us, I've discovered that Escher is really somewhat of a loon.
Not to say that his subnote wouldn't be an interesting product, but it has ceased to be a viable product. Components have gotten small enough to produce the 12" PB, which is as small as (or smaller than) people reasonably want. Smaller, and it simply becomes difficult to use in one way or another.
Me, I want a 17" now, but I don't plan to carry it around much.
If subnote MUST skip those features, then I don't think Apple will ever supply one.
I think the 12" PB will still shrink a bit, and Apple might make an Escher-sub-notebook size eventually, but it will always contain an optical drive, and be fully featured.
I could see a "keyboard" footprint foldover tablet/subnote hybrid once the technology to make it small, fast, light, DURABLE and AFFORDABLE becomes a reality, basically, not for a while.
I only expect Apple to push the envelope of fully featured machines, tey will not jetison features to make a weight, nor should they.
Well, I went with a gut feeling and checked for the gadgets that 'Q' supplied James Bond in the the '6'th film (On Her Majesty's Secret Service)....
All of Apple's product code names are now letter/number. This is to assist in confusing rivals and plugging leaks.
For instance, the January Power Mac G4 is "P58". A newer Power Mac is actually being sold now, a technical update "P58B". The Xserve 1.3GHz is Q28. The Xserve RAID is P85.
also a good call. Is there a market for an apple thin client though?
Apple's traditional markets- image processing video wouldn't seem to be the best applications for a thin client approach with all the bandwidth required.
Wish apple did provide a thin client solution though-my brother works in this area on the pc side (www.applicationdelivery.com), and I think the technology's great.
So would the letter deliniate a product? If P=PowerMac and Q=Xserve, then we'd be looking at a new Xserve....no?
Besides, I was just having a bit of fun with my Bond snooping.
Don't think it would work like this, to easy to recognise code name. So I would imagine that the letter and number are more random than that.
On the subnotebook concept, I think a subnotebook would have a better market than a PDA. More ram, comes with a harddrive etc. I would love to have a small laptop that I can carry with me everywhere, and to jot down notes, check email, surf etc. I don't want a 12" to do this - too large still. And don't need the CD drive either. Just give me Airport Extreme and bluetooth and I'm set
Well, I imagine the numbers are sequential based on project inception date, and the majority don't make it to a final product. P vs Q, the only thing I can think of is P is a mainline project, and Q is a super-secret "black" project.
Well, I imagine the numbers are sequential based on project inception date, and the majority don't make it to a final product. P vs Q, the only thing I can think of is P is a mainline project, and Q is a super-secret "black" project.
Well, here are some other codenames. I'd possibly disregard the top two, and the remainder don't really identify a trend. I couldn't find codes for the Powerbooks, though, nor for any other accessories such as the iPod, or monitors other than the Cinema.
Well, here are some other codenames. I'd possibly disregard the top two, and the remainder don't really identify a trend. I couldn't find codes for the Powerbooks, though, nor for any other accessories such as the iPod, or monitors other than the Cinema.
Book (original): P1
iBook (FireWire): P1.5
iBook (Dual USB): P29
Power Macinotsh G4 Mirrored Drive Doors: P57
Power Macintosh G4 FW 800: P58
Apple Cinema HD Display: P63
eMac: P69
iMac (17-inch Flat-Panel): P79
iMac (Flat-Panel): P80
iBook (Late 2001): P92
Apologies on the self-reply and bump...
Can anyone comment on whether Q6 might be the new Powermacs or another product? Another build of OS X beyond Panther and Smeagol suggests a different family of products, rather than yet another Powermac. I'm thinking something like a thin client myself, given Panthers supposed remote GUI, and multiple graphical login.
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Originally posted by mania
what the hell was that?
Sigh...I'm so underappreciated. You also have to have seen the Steve Ballmer screaming monkey thing, but I figured you all would have. Domo-Kun is a Japanese character, kind of like Pikachu but not as popular/well-known in the US. Not really important, he just has good swinging arms.
It's crazy, it's funny,... it's kind of unsettling (Ballmer's personality and that freaky mascot).
Screed
Originally posted by rutabaga
The 12-inch PowerBook is a "small fully-featured notebook." A subnotebook would skip the optical drive for additional space- and weight-savings.
Escher
Originally posted by Escher
The 12-inch PowerBook is a "small fully-featured notebook." A subnotebook would skip the optical drive for additional space- and weight-savings.
Escher
Wayyy back in the day, when Escher was using a 2400, and the current iBook form factor didn't exist, I sympathized with him. Apple did need a smaller, lighter notebook.
But now, when we have a beautiful, tiny laptop available to us, I've discovered that Escher is really somewhat of a loon.
Not to say that his subnote wouldn't be an interesting product, but it has ceased to be a viable product. Components have gotten small enough to produce the 12" PB, which is as small as (or smaller than) people reasonably want. Smaller, and it simply becomes difficult to use in one way or another.
Me, I want a 17" now, but I don't plan to carry it around much.
Originally posted by rutabaga
what is the 12 inch powerbook then?
Originally posted by Escher
The 12-inch PowerBook is a "small fully-featured notebook." A subnotebook would skip the optical drive for additional space- and weight-savings.
Escher
Forgive him Escher, for he knoweth not who he speaketh to.
Originally posted by scottiB
First "Smeagol" and now "Black Rider." What's next? Faramir? Shelob?
Treebeard? - powerful, huge
Shadowfax? - fast, beautiful
Gimli? - small, deadly
I think the 12" PB will still shrink a bit, and Apple might make an Escher-sub-notebook size eventually, but it will always contain an optical drive, and be fully featured.
I could see a "keyboard" footprint foldover tablet/subnote hybrid once the technology to make it small, fast, light, DURABLE and AFFORDABLE becomes a reality, basically, not for a while.
I only expect Apple to push the envelope of fully featured machines, tey will not jetison features to make a weight, nor should they.
Originally posted by 709
Well, I went with a gut feeling and checked for the gadgets that 'Q' supplied James Bond in the the '6'th film (On Her Majesty's Secret Service)....
All of Apple's product code names are now letter/number. This is to assist in confusing rivals and plugging leaks.
For instance, the January Power Mac G4 is "P58". A newer Power Mac is actually being sold now, a technical update "P58B". The Xserve 1.3GHz is Q28. The Xserve RAID is P85.
Barto
Besides, I was just having a bit of fun with my Bond snooping.
Originally posted by JLL
Thin client?
also a good call. Is there a market for an apple thin client though?
Apple's traditional markets- image processing video wouldn't seem to be the best applications for a thin client approach with all the bandwidth required.
Wish apple did provide a thin client solution though-my brother works in this area on the pc side (www.applicationdelivery.com), and I think the technology's great.
Originally posted by 709
So would the letter deliniate a product? If P=PowerMac and Q=Xserve, then we'd be looking at a new Xserve....no?
The letters and numbers are random, as far as I can tell.
Originally posted by 709
So would the letter deliniate a product? If P=PowerMac and Q=Xserve, then we'd be looking at a new Xserve....no?
Besides, I was just having a bit of fun with my Bond snooping.
Don't think it would work like this, to easy to recognise code name. So I would imagine that the letter and number are more random than that.
On the subnotebook concept, I think a subnotebook would have a better market than a PDA. More ram, comes with a harddrive etc. I would love to have a small laptop that I can carry with me everywhere, and to jot down notes, check email, surf etc. I don't want a 12" to do this - too large still. And don't need the CD drive either. Just give me Airport Extreme and bluetooth and I'm set
EDIT: Barto, you beat me to it!
Originally posted by Barto
The letters and numbers are random, as far as I can tell.
Try harder.
Originally posted by Flippant Funbags
Try harder.
Well, I imagine the numbers are sequential based on project inception date, and the majority don't make it to a final product. P vs Q, the only thing I can think of is P is a mainline project, and Q is a super-secret "black" project.
6 = 6 Sides
hence a 6 sided cube
problem solved
Originally posted by Alexander
Well, I imagine the numbers are sequential based on project inception date, and the majority don't make it to a final product. P vs Q, the only thing I can think of is P is a mainline project, and Q is a super-secret "black" project.
Well, here are some other codenames. I'd possibly disregard the top two, and the remainder don't really identify a trend. I couldn't find codes for the Powerbooks, though, nor for any other accessories such as the iPod, or monitors other than the Cinema.
Book (original): P1
iBook (FireWire): P1.5
iBook (Dual USB): P29
Power Macinotsh G4 Mirrored Drive Doors: P57
Power Macintosh G4 FW 800: P58
Apple Cinema HD Display: P63
eMac: P69
iMac (17-inch Flat-Panel): P79
iMac (Flat-Panel): P80
iBook (Late 2001): P92
Originally posted by johnsonwax
Well, here are some other codenames. I'd possibly disregard the top two, and the remainder don't really identify a trend. I couldn't find codes for the Powerbooks, though, nor for any other accessories such as the iPod, or monitors other than the Cinema.
Book (original): P1
iBook (FireWire): P1.5
iBook (Dual USB): P29
Power Macinotsh G4 Mirrored Drive Doors: P57
Power Macintosh G4 FW 800: P58
Apple Cinema HD Display: P63
eMac: P69
iMac (17-inch Flat-Panel): P79
iMac (Flat-Panel): P80
iBook (Late 2001): P92
Apologies on the self-reply and bump...
Can anyone comment on whether Q6 might be the new Powermacs or another product? Another build of OS X beyond Panther and Smeagol suggests a different family of products, rather than yet another Powermac. I'm thinking something like a thin client myself, given Panthers supposed remote GUI, and multiple graphical login.