BTW, JBuilder Personal is free but Borland has removed the download link for Mac OS X from its site because the executable dies under 1.4.1. I do have a workaround, though, to launch it properly via the terminal with 1.4.1. However, I should note that JBuilder is crap.
haha well i'm not sure what i'll use (i'll try everything )...though i do wonder how to make a GUI that conforms with apple's standards while just writing the code (i have just finished the preface on my java book so be nice!)
after this comes cocoa in hopes i'll one day be able to create a real program capable of doing something
Kickaha and Amorph couldn't moderate themselves out of a paper bag. Abdicate responsibility and succumb to idiocy. Two years of letting a member make personal attacks against others, then stepping aside when someone won't put up with it. Not only that but go ahead and shut down my posting priviledges but not the one making the attacks. Not even the common decency to abide by their warning (afer three days of absorbing personal attacks with no mods in sight), just shut my posting down and then say it might happen later if a certian line is crossed. Bullshit flag is flying, I won't abide by lying and coddling of liars who go off-site, create accounts differing in a single letter from my handle with the express purpose to decieve and then claim here that I did it. Everyone be warned, kim kap sol is a lying, deceitful poster.
Now I guess they should have banned me rather than just shut off posting priviledges, because kickaha and Amorph definitely aren't going to like being called to task when they thought they had it all ignored *cough* *cough* I mean under control. Just a couple o' tools.
Kickaha and Amorph couldn't moderate themselves out of a paper bag. Abdicate responsibility and succumb to idiocy. Two years of letting a member make personal attacks against others, then stepping aside when someone won't put up with it. Not only that but go ahead and shut down my posting priviledges but not the one making the attacks. Not even the common decency to abide by their warning (afer three days of absorbing personal attacks with no mods in sight), just shut my posting down and then say it might happen later if a certian line is crossed. Bullshit flag is flying, I won't abide by lying and coddling of liars who go off-site, create accounts differing in a single letter from my handle with the express purpose to decieve and then claim here that I did it. Everyone be warned, kim kap sol is a lying, deceitful poster.
Now I guess they should have banned me rather than just shut off posting priviledges, because kickaha and Amorph definitely aren't going to like being called to task when they thought they had it all ignored *cough* *cough* I mean under control. Just a couple o' tools.
Kickaha and Amorph couldn't moderate themselves out of a paper bag. Abdicate responsibility and succumb to idiocy. Two years of letting a member make personal attacks against others, then stepping aside when someone won't put up with it. Not only that but go ahead and shut down my posting priviledges but not the one making the attacks. Not even the common decency to abide by their warning (afer three days of absorbing personal attacks with no mods in sight), just shut my posting down and then say it might happen later if a certian line is crossed. Bullshit flag is flying, I won't abide by lying and coddling of liars who go off-site, create accounts differing in a single letter from my handle with the express purpose to decieve and then claim here that I did it. Everyone be warned, kim kap sol is a lying, deceitful poster.
Now I guess they should have banned me rather than just shut off posting priviledges, because kickaha and Amorph definitely aren't going to like being called to task when they thought they had it all ignored *cough* *cough* I mean under control. Just a couple o' tools.
Don't worry, as soon as my work resetting my posts is done I'll disappear forever.
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That's what I use.
IDEs are for pansies.
BTW, JBuilder Personal is free but Borland has removed the download link for Mac OS X from its site because the executable dies under 1.4.1. I do have a workaround, though, to launch it properly via the terminal with 1.4.1. However, I should note that JBuilder is crap.
I tend to use vim as an editor (though I am trying to get e93 up and running on my Mac http://www.e93.org ). Ant. JUnit. Jikes.
That is all the IDE I need.
That said, if you must...try Eclipse... http://www.eclipse.org
Not bad as IDEs go.
JBuilder is horrible.
after this comes cocoa in hopes i'll one day be able to create a real program capable of doing something
Originally posted by ast3r3x
though i do wonder how to make a GUI that conforms with apple's standards while just writing the code
You don't. GUIs should NOT be created by "writing code". InterfaceBuilder is the correct approach for that sort of thing.
Originally posted by Chris Cuilla
You don't. GUIs should NOT be created by "writing code". InterfaceBuilder is the correct approach for that sort of thing.
...eh i have a lot to learn about java, hopefull the book exlpains about combining it with a GUI
Now I guess they should have banned me rather than just shut off posting priviledges, because kickaha and Amorph definitely aren't going to like being called to task when they thought they had it all ignored *cough* *cough* I mean under control. Just a couple o' tools.
and what should i use to compile my java apps (stupid cd didn't come with stuff for os x)
As for compiling java files, you can just use the terminal... javac to compile, java to run a program.
i know its stupid but i like strait foward things...specially since i think it will be quicker to hit a button then type javac
Originally posted by Chucker
pico/nano
You mean VI!!!!
Hey ast3r3x, you get bored of PHP already?
Originally posted by ast3r3x
honestly i'd just like a simple java editor so taht i can click a button and it compiles for me and runs so i can see
i know its stupid but i like strait foward things...specially since i think it will be quicker to hit a button then type javac
Try JJEdit
Now I guess they should have banned me rather than just shut off posting priviledges, because kickaha and Amorph definitely aren't going to like being called to task when they thought they had it all ignored *cough* *cough* I mean under control. Just a couple o' tools.
Now I guess they should have banned me rather than just shut off posting priviledges, because kickaha and Amorph definitely aren't going to like being called to task when they thought they had it all ignored *cough* *cough* I mean under control. Just a couple o' tools.
Don't worry, as soon as my work resetting my posts is done I'll disappear forever.
Originally posted by AirSluf
if Eclipse was free I might go with that instead
It is.
thank you for all you responses, but i am thinking i shouldn't try learning two langauges at once
i did get all (well almost all) of the suggestions to work, and i want to thank everyoen again very much for you helpfulness
unless there are further questions this thread can die a slow and horrific death of slowly fading into the dead thread sea
Originally posted by ast3r3x
unless there are further questions this thread can die a slow and horrific death of slowly fading into the dead thread sea
I have a further question: has anyone successfully managed to preverify and compile a J2ME midlet on osx?
if so how and with what?
ps: vi rocks my world