School's Mac OS

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in Mac Software edited January 2014
I was curious. My school is way behind in technology. most of the computers have os 8.6 and 8.1. The lab has new emacs but uses 9.1. os 10.1.3 was on them and they deleted it. Then they just bought 10.2 for all the computers a month ago. then panther will be comming out. What do your school computers run?
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  • Reply 1 of 26
    cubedudecubedude Posts: 1,556member
    Windows 98.
  • Reply 2 of 26
    cooopcooop Posts: 390member
    My former high school's lab computers run Windows 98 but every classroom also has a G3 that runs 8.1. Broadcasting runs 9 and newspaper/yearbook run 10.2.
  • Reply 3 of 26
    95 in most... but a few have 98.



    We are not blessed with mac hardware of any kind.



    I think I just lost my school pride.
  • Reply 4 of 26
    We have about 200 Celeron 500 machines running Win 98 and 30 G3 iMacs running Jaguar (or they will be as of September). Also, once they ship we are adding a G5 running Panther Server (OK, Jaguar first, then the Panther upgrade when it ships). We also have a half dozen servers running Win 2000 Server, Win NT, Novell, and Linux.
  • Reply 5 of 26
    delphikidelphiki Posts: 76member
    All of the Macs in my University's labs run OS X (I think 10.2 but I'm not at school so I can't check). That's about half the computers in any non-engineering lab. In engineering labs there is about 1/3 macs (1/3 mac, 1/3 solaris or linux, 1/3 windows). In one of the video editing labs I used last year they were running Mac OS 9 with iMovie 2 or something like that?? Maybe they kept that there because they wanted people to be able to use Adobe Premiere on the Macs, not just on the PC's.
  • Reply 6 of 26
    They've got Windows 2000 and Red Hat Linux (can't remember which version) in all the university labs here. There might be a Mac OS X box or two somewhere among them, but I haven't seen any in over a year.



    Well, almost. There *are* a few gumdrop iMacs and flat panel iMacs scattered around on kiosks, but they're running a modified Mac OS X 10.2 with only iCab in kiosk mode. Grrr. That reminds me... I need to send off a letter to the tech department about running something, ANYTHING other than iCal.



  • Reply 7 of 26
    lucaluca Posts: 3,833member
    My dorm's small computer lab had about a dozen Dells running Windows 2000, as well as two flat panel iMacs and a Quicksilver PowerMac. The PowerMac and one of the iMacs ran 10.2, and the other iMac ran 9.2.2 (although all the systems are probably dual-boot). However, the larger public labs have all the Macs running 9.2.2, and all the PCs running Windows 2000.
  • Reply 8 of 26
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    9.2



    soon to be OS X 10.2
  • Reply 9 of 26
    emaneman Posts: 7,204member
    Windows 98 mostly.
  • Reply 10 of 26
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Nano

    I was curious. My school is way behind in technology. most of the computers have os 8.6 and 8.1. The lab has new emacs but uses 9.1. os 10.1.3 was on them and they deleted it. Then they just bought 10.2 for all the computers a month ago. then panther will be comming out. What do your school computers run?



    You, too? I tell you, they don't know what the hell they're doing with their computer department. They have their Macs for programming, and their PC's for graphic design when it should be vice versa; they got Adobe Premiere for the PC's and they never installed it, it just sits there (until my friend decided to pirate it. the teacher was very lax about it, being that he resents the school's incompetence); they had OS X on the eMacs and they deleted it; still with 9.2 on the eMacs, everything from SimpleText to iMovie is locked out.



    Honestly, the hag they got running the computer lab, she's being paid to sit and eat donut holes in her office all day. She barely moves, save for when she's bitching at someone for no reason (she has quotas to meet), doesn't have a clue how the Macs work, and their librarian is always patronizing us when we're using them, because she thinks we're all stupid, 'til I snapped and told her saying "Yes. Shut up. I have one of these at home, I THINK I HAVE AN IDEA HOW THEY WORK. GET OFF MY BACK."



    Incompetence. I should have her job. I should be running the computer dept. Why is the tech support guy (who happens to be a Mac head) always called to repair those shitty old, slow, Win98 PC's, when we have Macs BEING ABUSE BY THE PENGUIN FOR HIS NEFARIOUS ENDS.



    Shittiest school in the world = OTHS. If you're in the neighborhood, egg it, will you?
  • Reply 11 of 26
    cubedudecubedude Posts: 1,556member
    Do you realize how much better school computer labs(I'm talking K12) would be if people like us were running them?





    At my school's lab, I sat next to a guy while he hacked into the school's server. No one was allowed in for two weeks while they tried to put everything back in place. All the computer's have Windows, but they don't have the money to buy antivirus software, or even a decent firewall.



    Then, when I try to help the head honcho in the lab, she yells at me because she says I'm doing it the wrong way. So, she takes over and shows me how it's done. Once she's finished, she gets the BSOD. I laughed at her for that one(and have the detention slip to prove it).
  • Reply 12 of 26
    nanonano Posts: 178member
    btw my school had a team of people to fix computers i was on it and they have a ton of software not in use . The tech lady didn't know crap
  • Reply 13 of 26
    cubedudecubedude Posts: 1,556member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Nano

    btw my school had a team of people to fix computers i was on it and they have a ton of software not in use . The tech lady didn't know crap



    The tech lady at my school couldn't set up an iMac.



    She had to call in the district tech supervisor person, and he didn't know crap nor shit. I watched them for an hour trying to set up the software, and finally got up and showed them how the CD installer works.
  • Reply 14 of 26
    nanonano Posts: 178member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by CubeDude

    The tech lady at my school couldn't set up an iMac.



    She had to call in the district tech supervisor person, and he didn't know crap nor shit. I watched them for an hour trying to set up the software, and finally got up and showed them how the CD installer works.




    and to think they get paid. I know what im doing when i get older
  • Reply 15 of 26
    We brought in our comcorder to edit a movie project we were doing for comm. tech (but couldn't, 'cause the comm. tech class's computers were positively archaic) and thought that MAYBE (it was long-shot) if we use the eMacs with their FireWire ports that we MIGHT fit our FireWire cable into, and juuuust MIGHT be able to use iMovie to edit it, since they have gigs and gigs of space on their HD's not being used for anything we might find useful. Our efforts were thwarted by Ms. Dore's sheer [email protected]$%#%@ STUPIDITY, THAT GIANT HAM WITCH. WHY IN THE BLOODY HELL DO YOU LOCK US OUT OF iMOVIE, YOU STUPID WOMAN? JUST DELETE THE GODDAMNED THING.



    We ended up having to spend hours on our teacher's computer, converting the video into MovieMaker (It's been called a rip off of iMovie, but it just so half-asses and dumbed-down, and clunky and slow, that the only similarity the two might have is that they're both video-editing apps. But even that I couldn't tell, because at one point the program took over and wasted our day trying to convert the movie files. I don't know if it worked, or not. I gave up half-way through.)



    Quote:

    Originally posted by CubeDude

    Then, when I try to help the head honcho in the lab, she yells at me because she says I'm doing it the wrong way. So, she takes over and shows me how it's done. Once she's finished, she gets the BSOD. I laughed at her for that one(and have the detention slip to prove it).



    But didn't it feel good?



    Lucky me, Ms. Dore's gonna be around another year. I still have time to tell her off in front of everyone else. Her time will come!
  • Reply 16 of 26
    nanonano Posts: 178member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Dog Almighty

    We brought in our comcorder to edit a movie project we were doing for comm. tech (but couldn't, 'cause the comm. tech class's computers were positively archaic) and thought that MAYBE (it was long-shot) if we use the eMacs with their FireWire ports that we MIGHT fit our FireWire cable into, and juuuust MIGHT be able to use iMovie to edit it, since they have gigs and gigs of space on their HD's not being used for anything we might find useful. Our efforts were thwarted by Ms. Dore's sheer [email protected]$%#%@ STUPIDITY, THAT GIANT HAM WITCH. WHY IN THE BLOODY HELL DO YOU LOCK US OUT OF iMOVIE, YOU STUPID WOMAN? JUST DELETE THE GODDAMNED THING.





    what do they use to lock the programs
  • Reply 17 of 26
    cubedudecubedude Posts: 1,556member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Dog Almighty

    We brought in our comcorder to edit a movie project we were doing for comm. tech (but couldn't, 'cause the comm. tech class's computers were positively archaic) and thought that MAYBE (it was long-shot) if we use the eMacs with their FireWire ports that we MIGHT fit our FireWire cable into, and juuuust MIGHT be able to use iMovie to edit it, since they have gigs and gigs of space on their HD's not being used for anything we might find useful. Our efforts were thwarted by Ms. Dore's sheer [email protected]$%#%@ STUPIDITY, THAT GIANT HAM WITCH. WHY IN THE BLOODY HELL DO YOU LOCK US OUT OF iMOVIE, YOU STUPID WOMAN? JUST DELETE THE GODDAMNED THING.



    We ended up having to spend hours on our teacher's computer, converting the video into MovieMaker (It's been called a rip off of iMovie, but it just so half-asses and dumbed-down, and clunky and slow, that the only similarity the two might have is that they're both video-editing apps. But even that I couldn't tell, because at one point the program took over and wasted our day trying to convert the movie files. I don't know if it worked, or not. I gave up half-way through.)







    But didn't it feel good?



    Lucky me, Ms. Dore's gonna be around another year. I still have time to tell her off in front of everyone else. Her time will come!




    Oh, it felt good all right. 'Specially since it was in the middle of Free Lab(during lunch), and the lab was packed.



    I get to deal with Ms. Levine for another year, and possibly even 5 years(joy). The high school tech guy is leaving in a year, and they're not going to hire a new one, just move the middle school person(Ms. Levine) up, and the middle school rot(good riddance). So, eighth grade, plus four years of high school. She and her network will suffer for pissing me off.
  • Reply 18 of 26
    dfryerdfryer Posts: 140member
    I found that screwing up school computers was fairly entertaining up to a certain point- once I had caused a machine to lock everyone out (including the admins, mysteriously) causing them to reinstall everything, it became kind of pointless. In conjunction with this, all the Pascal compilers were removed from computers in that lab.



    For Classic MacOS, a properly configured FoolProof setup was almost unbeatable- that is, unless there was a compiler just sitting around waiting to be turned to evil purposes. The worst we could do was screw around with things like menu-flash counts using the interrupt box. I don't think there's any equivalent for OS X, because the built in security can be adjusted on a fairly fine-grained level if the admin is a m4d j00N1X h4xx0r. That said, unless the firmware password is set, even that can be subverted (or so I've been led to believe).



    Locking up computers usually antagonises even normal, happy students - I believe it's much more effective to have them log in and threaten them with random monitoring. Might also solve the porn problems that that school district with all the iBooks was having...



    As for incompetent techs, well, I feel sorry for the people who have to work with them. Be patient
  • Reply 19 of 26
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Nano

    what do they use to lock the programs



    I have no idea. Something in Mac OS 9. It's proably locked out, too, FROM THEMSELVES.
  • Reply 20 of 26
    We have 50 iMac G3 500 (Indigo) running: Mac OS 10.1.5, 50 eMac 1GHz (Superdrive) running Mac OS 10.2.6, 45 Power Mac 5260/100 running Mac OS 8.6, 61 Power Mac 5500/250 running 9.1, 60 Custom Built AMD XP 1700+ running Windows XP Professional, and an old lab with a bunch of LC, LC II, LC III, Performa 475, and some PM 6100 all running 7. A total of over 350 computers with an enrollment of 651.
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