Poll what is holding up the new Powerbooks?

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
Note: I don't think that all the options are equal. I for one think that Apple is on schedule, but that they may have issues with Moto delivering the 7457 on time. You can vote for more than one option.

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  • Reply 1 of 20
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,261member
    I can't vote, you left the most obvious choice out of your poll.
  • Reply 2 of 20
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    my head hurts
  • Reply 3 of 20
    yevgenyyevgeny Posts: 1,148member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by murbot

    I can't vote, you left the most obvious choice out of your poll.



    And that would be?
  • Reply 4 of 20
    yevgenyyevgeny Posts: 1,148member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by murbot

    I can't vote, you left the most obvious choice out of your poll.



    Well, if you think that the poll sucks so much so as to merit you adding an 11th option ("this poll sucks"), then just lock it. I would hate to be the one who lowers the stellar content of this site. Better yet, come up with a less sucky poll. It isn't as if I posted a poll of which moderator is least liked.
  • Reply 5 of 20
    applenutapplenut Posts: 5,768member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Yevgeny

    It isn't as if I posted a poll of which moderator is least liked.



    That's because it's comon knowledge that Jonathon is the least liked
  • Reply 6 of 20
    banchobancho Posts: 1,517member
    I'm not sure if I found it funnier that there was a "This poll sucks" option or that the same option is most popular.



    BTW, I just called Steve and the conversation went like this:



    ME: "Hey Steve-o, what with all the G5 excitement did you forget something?"



    Steve: "Hey Bancho, howza baby? What do you mean forget?"



    ME: "How about the languishing powerbooks? Don't you even remember your spiel about 'year of the portable/notebook' thingy?"



    Steve: " OH SH!T!! You're right man! I'm on it! I don't know what the hell I was thinking. I guess I was all caught up in my own RDF about the G5's. Sorry man! Gotta run!"
  • Reply 7 of 20
    murbotmurbot Posts: 5,261member
    Just messing with you for putting up 75 options, man.



    BTW, I am not a moderator in this forum, so my poll editing powers are useless here.
  • Reply 8 of 20
    yevgenyyevgeny Posts: 1,148member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by murbot

    Just messing with you for putting up 75 options, man.



    No worries. I wanted to provide reasonable options, and any delay could be for more than one reason. I just wanted to avoid this poll:



    Why are powerbooks delayd?



    1 Apple Suks!

    2 Moto Suks!

    3 I eat dirt for a living you insensitive clod!

    4 Cowboy Neal is my Ti book!





    Frankly, I am surprised at how many people think that a G5 transition is coming. Get ready for dissapointment.



    Quote:

    BTW, I am not a moderator in this forum, so my poll editing powers are useless here.



    For every superhero, there is place where they can't use their vast powers.
  • Reply 9 of 20
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Yevgeny

    No worries. I wanted to provide reasonable options, and any delay could be for more than one reason. I just wanted to avoid this poll:



    Why are powerbooks delayd?



    1 Apple Suks!

    2 Moto Suks!

    3 I eat dirt for a living you insensitive clod!

    4 Cowboy Neal is my Ti book!





    Frankly, I am surprised at how many people think that a G5 transition is coming. Get ready for dissapointment.






    Wow someone here must love /. poles...
  • Reply 10 of 20
    curiousuburbcuriousuburb Posts: 3,325member
    uh, does the poll use some kind of special math?



    total says 38 votes.

    most popular options have 24 (moto incompetent) and 22 (poll sucks) votes

    somehow 24 out of 38 is quoted as 24%

    ditto 22 out of 38 reports as 22%





    whatyoutalkinaboutwillis?



    *slowly bonks head on calculator*



    does the 38 refer in fact to the number of members who have voted,

    and the total number of votes cast magically nets out at 100? dingding?



    multiple vote polls might indicate this discrepancy in statistics. <hint>
  • Reply 11 of 20
    yevgenyyevgeny Posts: 1,148member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by curiousuburb

    uh, does the poll use some kind of special math?



    total says 38 votes.

    most popular options have 24 (moto incompetent) and 22 (poll sucks) votes

    somehow 24 out of 38 is quoted as 24%

    ditto 22 out of 38 reports as 22%





    whatyoutalkinaboutwillis?



    *slowly bonks head on calculator*



    does the 38 refer in fact to the number of members who have voted,

    and the total number of votes cast magically nets out at 100? dingding?



    multiple vote polls might indicate this discrepancy in statistics. <hint>




    You can vote for more than one thing. If you think that Apple is right on schedule and you also think that Apple is incompetent, then you can vote for both. I am pretty sure the 38 signifies the number of people who have voted (even though they can vote from one to eleven times).



    More interesting is that there are 39 overall votes, 25 votes for Moto sucks, and 22 votes for this poll sucks. This means that statistically speaking, some people who think this poll sucks are also voting for moto sucking (because 25 + 22 > 39) or that people who think that this poll sucks are voting for other options. I want to give a special "thanks" to all those people who think that this poll sucks, but vote in it anyway.
  • Reply 12 of 20
    curiousuburbcuriousuburb Posts: 3,325member
    yes, but 25 out of what is now 40 voters != 24.51%

    if 40 people voted and 25 of them selected "moto incompetent"

    25/40 = 62.5% of voters selected that option (in a single-vote poll)

    similarly if 22/40 pick "this poll sucks" it represents almost 60% support





    my issue is with the final column percentages not fitting the vote count
  • Reply 13 of 20
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Some context:



    PowerBook G4 400/500: introduction

    PowerBook G4 550/667: 10 months later

    PowerBook G4 667/800: 6 months later

    PowerBook G4 1Ghz: 7 months later, PowerBook G4 12"/17": 2 more months later



    Right now we're 9 months since the last 15" revision and 7 months since the introduction of the 12"/17" models. So they're still pretty close to when they've updated in the past, but they're starting to push it if it goes another month. Anyway, it's hardly a scandal to have waited this long to update. It also makes sense that they'll want the 12, 15, and 17 on the same upgrade cycle, so they'll let the 15" hang for a little extra time until the others are ready to be updated.

    Quote:

    Originally posted by curiousuburb

    yes, but 25 out of what is now 40 voters != 24.51%

    if 40 people voted and 25 of them selected "moto incompetent"

    25/40 = 62.5% of voters selected that option (in a single-vote poll)

    similarly if 22/40 pick "this poll sucks" it represents almost 60% support





    my issue is with the final column percentages not fitting the vote count




    Yeah it's a real mindfvck. Until you realize 3/8 of a second later that it's the percent of total votes cast, not total voters.
  • Reply 14 of 20
    gargoylegargoyle Posts: 660member
    Steve is just recharging his RDF, and once he is done you will look at this forum and think.. WTF, what a silly waste of time that was, 'cos you wont know any different - your reality will have been distorted!!
  • Reply 15 of 20
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by curiousuburb

    uh, does the poll use some kind of special math?



    total says 38 votes.

    most popular options have 24 (moto incompetent) and 22 (poll sucks) votes

    somehow 24 out of 38 is quoted as 24%

    ditto 22 out of 38 reports as 22%





    whatyoutalkinaboutwillis?



    *slowly bonks head on calculator*



    does the 38 refer in fact to the number of members who have voted,

    and the total number of votes cast magically nets out at 100? dingding?



    multiple vote polls might indicate this discrepancy in statistics. <hint>




    How about the fact that this is a "pick as many options as you want poll". I voted for all of them, because I couldn't decide.
  • Reply 16 of 20
    hasapihasapi Posts: 290member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BRussell

    Some context:



    PowerBook G4 400/500: introduction

    PowerBook G4 550/667: 10 months later

    PowerBook G4 667/800: 6 months later

    PowerBook G4 1Ghz: 7 months later, PowerBook G4 12"/17": 2 more months later



    Right now we're 9 months since the last 15" revision and 7 months since the introduction of the 12"/17" models. So they're still pretty close to when they've updated in the past, but they're starting to push it if it goes another month. Anyway, it's hardly a scandal to have waited this long to update. It also makes sense that they'll want the 12, 15, and 17 on the same upgrade cycle, so they'll let the 15" hang for a little extra time until the others are ready to be updated.




    I understand your post, the original Ti was/still is very impressive. But I would expect Apple to update any model based on more critical variables, such as competitive analysis/maintenance of margin/component availability. These are the reasons the PB's sales are dropping, and for the iMacs - fast!.



    Its no wonder SJ is pissed!, Ive no doubt SJ expected to introduce the G5 to the PB's come cooler 970's, moto's failure to deliver 7457's could very well force his hand into planb?.
  • Reply 17 of 20
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    The option "Everyone sucks" is missing
  • Reply 18 of 20
    homhom Posts: 1,098member
    Steve is personally building each and everyone. That's why MacWhispers was right when they said in May that Powerbooks were being stockpiled in the warehouses. It has taken him this long to make sure each one lives up to out standards.
  • Reply 19 of 20
    formatc2formatc2 Posts: 176member
    A total switch to IBM produced processors, is my reasoning for the delay.



    IBM wants all of Apple's chip business enough to pull this off. Apple should buy 100% of it's core processors from them, I'm sure the volume discount would be nice.



  • Reply 20 of 20
    placeboplacebo Posts: 5,767member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by HOM

    Steve is personally building each and everyone. That's why MacWhispers was right when they said in May that Powerbooks were being stockpiled in the warehouses. It has taken him this long to make sure each one lives up to out standards.



    I knew it from the start!
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