PPC 970 date?

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  • Reply 241 of 344
    drboardrboar Posts: 477member
    Just to give an example of what the 970 will compete against on the other side of the fence (from the current issue of PC World)

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    What's the bottom-line buying advice? Power desktop PC users who favor Intel-based machines may want to sit tight until June. That's the expected debut date for "Prescott," the revamped P4 chip for which the 875P chipset paves the way. Note, too, that you can upgrade PCs with the 875P chip set to Prescott later if you need to buy an Intel system now.



    Prescott, likely to launch at a 3.4-GHz clock speed, will double the P4's Level 2 cache and improve the hyperthreading technology. And, Prescott machines should more fully take advantage of the higher-bandwidth memory and 800-MHz bus that the 875P chip set enables, Krewell says.

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    Substantially faster than the current 3.06 Ghz P4 that spank dual G4s.

    IBM better get those 970 out of the door pretty soon, and I think they will

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  • Reply 242 of 344
    screedscreed Posts: 1,077member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by fgjh

    a freind of mine got an email from his buddy that works in a certain place in cupertino. I am just merely passing it on...=]





    "The following is surely going to drop this September. It was leaked about 5 weeks ago, so I can tell you without pain and discomfort in my ballz.

    Listen jerk, remember......you heard this from a bird on a big tree. Don't ****ing quote me you bitch. :P



    The New PowerMac's all with the PPC970 Chip.

    2 Models confirmed. (Possibly three)



    1) Panther OS X 10.3 (Free upgrade from Jaguar. OS 9.2 will be terminated.)

    2) 1.6Ghz-1.9Ghz, with the new PPC970 processor(maybe duals)

    3) PCI extreme (much faster than PCI and AGP 8X and backwards compatible with PCI)

    4) 900Mhz system Busses.

    5) Serial ATA, Firewire 800, USB 2, AirportExtreme, BlueTooth

    6) Water Cooling, so there is no fan noise!! :P"




    1) Does that mean it first will come with Jaguar and then later Panther?

    2) That's a little more sane than Dual 2.3Ghz.

    3) That'll impress (or piss off) a lot of the "l33t gamerz" and graphics workstation users.

    4) Fine.

    5) Sounds good.

    6) <jamaican>Yah, no fookin way, mon!!</jamaican>



    No PC manufacturer with an inkling of intelligence would make a PC that requires a water pump connected to it. Can you imagine the Tech Support nightmare that would entail!?



    Unless they can build a self-contained-will-never-leak-cooling system, this is - not - going - to - happen!



    Therefore your source is suspect in its entirety.



    Screed
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  • Reply 243 of 344
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,503member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by sCreeD

    6) <jamaican>Yah, no fookin way, mon!!</jamaican>



    No PC manufacturer with an inkling of intelligence would make a PC that requires a water pump connected to it. Can you imagine the Tech Support nightmare that would entail!?



    Unless they can build a self-contained-will-never-leak-cooling system, this is - not - going - to - happen!




    Water cooling is not such an unreasonable idea. Water has a much higher specific heat capacity than air and it might be possible to design a system that doesn't require a pump (thus much more reliable). I suppose you might be able to hear a little bubbling, but it would be a lot more pleasing that fan noise. Sort of a relaxing babbling-brook kind of sound.
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  • Reply 244 of 344
    bigcbigc Posts: 1,224member
    There are passive liquid cooling systems that use thermal pumps in other industries. Designed them myself for maintaining constant temperature baths.
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  • Reply 245 of 344
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Programmer

    Water cooling is not such an unreasonable idea.



    Maybe not. But there is no way Panther will be a free upgrade.



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  • Reply 246 of 344
    nitzernitzer Posts: 115member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Tomb of the Unknown

    Maybe not. But there is no way Panther will be a free upgrade.







    I think it means free upgrade for purchasers of the 970 systems. That is a bit more believable.



    Not that I necessarily believe the whole thing.
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  • Reply 247 of 344
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    Isn't there already something like passive liquid cooling in the PowerBooks?



    It makes sense that Apple would at least try it, since a significant portion of their user base wants an incredibly powerful and absolutely silent workstation. Fans are obviously not cutting it.



    It's not an entirely unbelievable report, although it looks like someone's going to get hurt for quoting the source verbatim...
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  • Reply 248 of 344
    thegeldingthegelding Posts: 3,230member
    Quote:

    I suppose you might be able to hear a little bubbling, but it would be a lot more pleasing that fan noise. Sort of a relaxing babbling-brook kind of sound.



    great..then this computer better come with the rumored iCathater also as i will constantly have this urge to pee while sitting at the computer....



    g







    here is the protype
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  • Reply 249 of 344
    jbljbl Posts: 555member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Tomb of the Unknown

    Maybe not. But there is no way Panther will be a free upgrade.







    Why not? 10.1 was a free upgrade. When 10.2 came out there was some discussion of the odd upgrades being free.
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  • Reply 250 of 344
    I'll pony up sixty bucks for a student copy of Panther. Hell.. who wouldn't? Jaguar rocked for the money. If the 970ers get it free w/ purchase, smashing, if Jaguar buyers get $10 off, amazing, but even without any other promotion, Jaguar ($120) was only $60 for students and lets face it... you can afford $60 for a 'whole new mac'.



    If we have the 'beta release' program like we did for X available at WWDC, I figure the finals release will correspond with the 970 (980/whateveryacallit) release. (which would seem to be fall to me... just before folks go back to school or just in time for spanksgiving and christmass.
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  • Reply 251 of 344
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Not Unlike Myself

    I'll pony up sixty bucks for a student copy of Panther. Hell.. who wouldn't?



    If Panther delivers a speed increase that is noticeable, then I'll by it. Otherwise I cant afford it since I'm a student.
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  • Reply 252 of 344
    airslufairsluf Posts: 1,861member
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  • Reply 253 of 344
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    Actually, after I went on a quick hunt through IBM's site, the only statement of the 970's bus speed that I can find is 900MHz.
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  • Reply 254 of 344
    fgjhfgjh Posts: 3member
    airsluf, maybe go do a search on your own for the bus speed? numerous sites got the bus @ 900

    heres one



    ..i have no idea if this info is 100% true or 1% true. as i said i am just passing it on, i havent been on the forum for ages and forgot how much speculation goes on in here.
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  • Reply 255 of 344
    Isn't the bus supposed to be 1/2 the processor speed? (1/4 DDR)
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  • Reply 256 of 344
    gsfmarkgsfmark Posts: 210member
    i want a 970 BAAAAAAD!!!!



    i hope the "leaked email" is true!
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  • Reply 257 of 344
    airslufairsluf Posts: 1,861member
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  • Reply 258 of 344
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    Actually, if memory serves, the IBM release that touted speeds up to 2.3GHz still mentioned a 900MHz bus.



    The relative clock speed design makes sense, but now that I think about it, I can't remember if it came from any other source than these boards.



    Anyone got a link?
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  • Reply 259 of 344
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,503member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Amorph

    Actually, if memory serves, the IBM release that touted speeds up to 2.3GHz still mentioned a 900MHz bus.



    The relative clock speed design makes sense, but now that I think about it, I can't remember if it came from any other source than these boards.



    Anyone got a link?




    I think it was that article by David Wang, who was actually at the IBM conference in October.
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  • Reply 260 of 344
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,503member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Amorph

    Isn't there already something like passive liquid cooling in the PowerBooks?



    It makes sense that Apple would at least try it, since a significant portion of their user base wants an incredibly powerful and absolutely silent workstation. Fans are obviously not cutting it.



    It's not an entirely unbelievable report, although it looks like someone's going to get hurt for quoting the source verbatim...






    http://www.scienceblog.com/community...rder=0&thold=0
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