Yeah? So what happens when they have heard B&O speakers? They're no better than Bose really (ok perhaps a little better).
LoCash is right. While Bose makes the best "cube" speakers I've heard (though that isn't saying much), the rest of their stuff sucks. B&O is much better than Bose, but still overpriced IMHO.
LoCash is right. While Bose makes the best "cube" speakers I've heard (though that isn't saying much), the rest of their stuff sucks. B&O is much better than Bose, but still overpriced IMHO.
Thank you And yeah, B&O is overpriced in the same way a mac is overpriced; you pay for the design and the status symbol. Unless Bang & Olufsen was one of your clients, in which case you get to pay cost for your B&O kit
Thank you And yeah, B&O is overpriced in the same way a mac is overpriced; you pay for the design and the status symbol. Unless Bang & Olufsen was one of your clients, in which case you get to pay cost for your B&O kit
You aren't kidding about paying for the design, which is excellent. Perhaps when I'm no longer a poor unemployed college student...
Thank you And yeah, B&O is overpriced in the same way a mac is overpriced; you pay for the design and the status symbol. Unless Bang & Olufsen was one of your clients, in which case you get to pay cost for your B&O kit
I wish people would stop saying Macs are overpriced. I just bought my wife a brand new Dell laptop with not quite the same options that a Powerbook has for the same price. Close to two grand. Macs are NOT overpriced. You get a ton more with a Mac.
Yeah, and try finding a 12" or smaller PC laptop for less than an iBook or a PB 12", you can't! In fact all PC manufacturers have their smaller laptops cost more than their larger ones.
I wish people would stop saying Macs are overpriced. I just bought my wife a brand new Dell laptop with not quite the same options that a Powerbook has for the same price. Close to two grand. Macs are NOT overpriced. You get a ton more with a Mac.
I'll stop saying it when it stops being true. You can run that Dell argument against it all you want, but a friend of mine just bought a P4 2GHz with 1GB of RAM, a 200GB drive, 17" LCD for less than an iMac. You can't say that you don't pay more for what you get with a mac, because you do. All of the R&D and ID costs have to be offset somehow, and they're offset by a higher price.
But I still buy a mac, and I know what I pay extra for. At any rate, let's not get this thread offtopic...
I'll stop saying it when it stops being true. You can run that Dell argument against it all you want, but a friend of mine just bought a P4 2GHz with 1GB of RAM, a 200GB drive, 17" LCD for less than an iMac. You can't say that you don't pay more for what you get with a mac, because you do. All of the R&D and ID costs have to be offset somehow, and they're offset by a higher price.
But I still buy a mac, and I know what I pay extra for. At any rate, let's not get this thread offtopic...
It's not an arguement. It's the truth. I bought a Dell laptop, the 500M for almost 1900. Now isn't a 15.2" Powebook G4 about the same price? I thought so.
Look at the 400SP. A P4 at 2.2GHz, 256MB RAM, 14" screen, etc. One thousand dollars? Excellent.
At any rate, I will concede that Apple has a pretty solid notebook lineup, but it's still priced high. I'm sure that pricing is inline with the cost of development and attempting to offset it. It's still expensive though, and yes, more expensive than alternate windows products. Say "Well you pay for the well built product and industrial design" lines all night long, but maybe some people don't want that. You have to pay the apple premium, because there is no other option.
1. dfiler, so you are saying that instead of expensive VGA cable i should run component cable, right? Right now i will be connecting through that funky special s-video connector on X1 (as i don't have anything HDTV yet), as far as i understand HDTV goes in through VGA connector (plus adapter of course). So if i will get HDTV tuner, then i just use the same component cable, just plug it to VGA right?
2. Wall jacks --- > Is there a wall jack for component connection? Or will it degrade quality?
(something like that):
How about speaker wire jacks?
I found these:
or:
There are also banana-type plugs, are these better?
Anyone can tell me how many of these things do i need?
(5.1 - in future 6.1)
How about S-video jacks? are there any?
Sorry ladies for such a basic question, but i just don't know that stuff that well.
Component cables arern't necessarily cheaper to buy than a vga cable. Its easy to spend 50 to 300 dollars on either of these cables in a 50 foot length. Coax wiring over long distances generally provides better shielding. Hence, I prefer component cables to vga over long distances. Both will work for HD, DVD, and other video sources but you can't transmit standard VGA over component.
The X1's svideo port has extra pins and with a special adapter it will accept a component 480i (interlaced) signal. This is the signal you'll get from non-progressive scan DVD players as well as some satellite and cable service.
The X1's vga port will accept a 480p signal from satellite, cable, progressive scan dvd players, and all current HDTV formats (like 1080i).
Personally, I'd leave an open conduit in a non-visible location rather than using wall plates. They tend to degrade the signal by adding more physical breaks to the wiring. However, If you are going the wall plate route, you may want to have a professional installer help you.
There are plenty of unexpected details that may slip past an amateur attempting an installation of the quality you are seeking. Such as... you can't send 480p and 480i to the same port of the X1. You'll either need to split the signal or run multiple cords... or You can get svideo wall plates but these won't be of use if you're sending a 480i signal over component to the X1. The svideo port will already be occupied.
Bananna plugs are definately the prefered speaker connector in the audio industry. (except for bare-wire purists) However, these can be dangerous to young children since they have live, exposed surfaces.
Component video cables normally use what is known as an RCA (or phono) connector. BNC plugs are slightly larger than RCA plugs and contain an internal spring such that they must be pushed in and twisted a half turn during insertion or removal. However, in some studio gear, it isn't uncommon for BNC to take the place of RCA plugs as BNC are impossible to accidentally pull out.
If you know what you are doing, either can be used in most applications. An important detail to note is that RCA cords have different impedances. Video RCA cords are not the same as audio RCA cords. Video are 75ohm and are generally colored yellow. While component video RCA cords are 75ohm, they are generally color coded as red green and blue even though these colors don't correspond to the signals being carried. There are multiple types of component signals and the one used in home video is associated with the acronyms YUV or YCbCr. One cord carries luminance data and the other two carry chrominance.
I would suggest sticking to svideo or component-RCA connections unless you plan on buying a 15000 dollar VCR.
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Originally posted by chych
Yeah? So what happens when they have heard B&O speakers? They're no better than Bose really (ok perhaps a little better).
LoCash is right. While Bose makes the best "cube" speakers I've heard (though that isn't saying much), the rest of their stuff sucks. B&O is much better than Bose, but still overpriced IMHO.
Originally posted by Whisper
LoCash is right. While Bose makes the best "cube" speakers I've heard (though that isn't saying much), the rest of their stuff sucks. B&O is much better than Bose, but still overpriced IMHO.
Thank you
Originally posted by LoCash
Thank you
You aren't kidding about paying for the design, which is excellent. Perhaps when I'm no longer a poor unemployed college student...
Originally posted by Northgate
NHT HiFi
www.nhthifi.com
Without a doubt THE best speakers on the market for the money. I will never go with anything else.
I'll second the NHT recommendation. Frequency response down to 24Hz, room-filling sound.
Originally posted by flyhigher
I'll second the NHT recommendation. Frequency response down to 24Hz, room-filling sound.
Those Digital Drive Velodynes will go down to 14Hz. My sub is 10Hz lower than your sub...
Originally posted by LoCash
Thank you
I wish people would stop saying Macs are overpriced. I just bought my wife a brand new Dell laptop with not quite the same options that a Powerbook has for the same price. Close to two grand. Macs are NOT overpriced. You get a ton more with a Mac.
At least in the laptop area Macs are fair priced.
Originally posted by Whisper
Those Digital Drive Velodynes will go down to 14Hz. My sub is 10Hz lower than your sub...
Point taken. I was referring to the mains. I'm using an M&K sub to go with them. Hmm, but I'll check out the Velodyne.
Originally posted by His Dudeness
I wish people would stop saying Macs are overpriced. I just bought my wife a brand new Dell laptop with not quite the same options that a Powerbook has for the same price. Close to two grand. Macs are NOT overpriced. You get a ton more with a Mac.
I'll stop saying it when it stops being true. You can run that Dell argument against it all you want, but a friend of mine just bought a P4 2GHz with 1GB of RAM, a 200GB drive, 17" LCD for less than an iMac. You can't say that you don't pay more for what you get with a mac, because you do. All of the R&D and ID costs have to be offset somehow, and they're offset by a higher price.
But I still buy a mac, and I know what I pay extra for. At any rate, let's not get this thread offtopic...
Originally posted by LoCash
I'll stop saying it when it stops being true. You can run that Dell argument against it all you want, but a friend of mine just bought a P4 2GHz with 1GB of RAM, a 200GB drive, 17" LCD for less than an iMac. You can't say that you don't pay more for what you get with a mac, because you do. All of the R&D and ID costs have to be offset somehow, and they're offset by a higher price.
But I still buy a mac, and I know what I pay extra for. At any rate, let's not get this thread offtopic...
It's not an arguement. It's the truth. I bought a Dell laptop, the 500M for almost 1900. Now isn't a 15.2" Powebook G4 about the same price? I thought so.
Now what brand computer did your friend buy?
http://www.americancomputech.com/smo....asp?iid=88322
Sure, it isn't a "namebrand" laptop, but damn is it cheap. So let's take a look at Gateway's laptop lineup.
http://www.gateway.com/home/prod/hm_...oddetail.shtml
That doesn't seem too bad. Hell, let's look at their entire notebook lineup.
http://www.gateway.com/home/products..._catalog.shtml
Look at the 400SP. A P4 at 2.2GHz, 256MB RAM, 14" screen, etc. One thousand dollars? Excellent.
At any rate, I will concede that Apple has a pretty solid notebook lineup, but it's still priced high. I'm sure that pricing is inline with the cost of development and attempting to offset it. It's still expensive though, and yes, more expensive than alternate windows products. Say "Well you pay for the well built product and industrial design" lines all night long, but maybe some people don't want that. You have to pay the apple premium, because there is no other option.
Originally posted by flyhigher
Point taken. I was referring to the mains. I'm using an M&K sub to go with them. Hmm, but I'll check out the Velodyne.
The mains are flat down to 24Hz?!? That's impressive.
Originally posted by Whisper
The mains are flat down to 24Hz?!? That's impressive.
Within 3dB. These are the ones I have, but it looks like they've stopped making them:
NHT VT 2.4
i have few more ideas to bounce off you :-)
1. dfiler, so you are saying that instead of expensive VGA cable i should run component cable, right? Right now i will be connecting through that funky special s-video connector on X1 (as i don't have anything HDTV yet), as far as i understand HDTV goes in through VGA connector (plus adapter of course). So if i will get HDTV tuner, then i just use the same component cable, just plug it to VGA right?
2. Wall jacks --- > Is there a wall jack for component connection? Or will it degrade quality?
(something like that):
How about speaker wire jacks?
I found these:
or:
There are also banana-type plugs, are these better?
Anyone can tell me how many of these things do i need?
(5.1 - in future 6.1)
How about S-video jacks? are there any?
Sorry ladies for such a basic question, but i just don't know that stuff that well.
Thanks a lot, i really appreciate your help.
The X1's svideo port has extra pins and with a special adapter it will accept a component 480i (interlaced) signal. This is the signal you'll get from non-progressive scan DVD players as well as some satellite and cable service.
The X1's vga port will accept a 480p signal from satellite, cable, progressive scan dvd players, and all current HDTV formats (like 1080i).
Personally, I'd leave an open conduit in a non-visible location rather than using wall plates. They tend to degrade the signal by adding more physical breaks to the wiring. However, If you are going the wall plate route, you may want to have a professional installer help you.
There are plenty of unexpected details that may slip past an amateur attempting an installation of the quality you are seeking. Such as... you can't send 480p and 480i to the same port of the X1. You'll either need to split the signal or run multiple cords... or You can get svideo wall plates but these won't be of use if you're sending a 480i signal over component to the X1. The svideo port will already be occupied.
Bananna plugs are definately the prefered speaker connector in the audio industry. (except for bare-wire purists) However, these can be dangerous to young children since they have live, exposed surfaces.
Is component connector the same thing as BNC ?
(the plug i mean....you know :-) )
Originally posted by piwozniak
hey dfiler...
Is component connector the same thing as BNC ?
(the plug i mean....you know :-) )
No. They are similar enough to seem the same at a glance, but they aren't interchangeable.
Or are these just component connectors on their own?
Originally posted by piwozniak
RCA type perhaps?
Or are these just component connectors on their own?
Yes, they use RCA connectors, but they seem to be of a much better quality than the RCA stuff I've used.
Originally posted by piwozniak
Is component connector the same thing as BNC ?
Component video cables normally use what is known as an RCA (or phono) connector. BNC plugs are slightly larger than RCA plugs and contain an internal spring such that they must be pushed in and twisted a half turn during insertion or removal. However, in some studio gear, it isn't uncommon for BNC to take the place of RCA plugs as BNC are impossible to accidentally pull out.
If you know what you are doing, either can be used in most applications. An important detail to note is that RCA cords have different impedances. Video RCA cords are not the same as audio RCA cords. Video are 75ohm and are generally colored yellow. While component video RCA cords are 75ohm, they are generally color coded as red green and blue even though these colors don't correspond to the signals being carried. There are multiple types of component signals and the one used in home video is associated with the acronyms YUV or YCbCr. One cord carries luminance data and the other two carry chrominance.
I would suggest sticking to svideo or component-RCA connections unless you plan on buying a 15000 dollar VCR.