Apple 'will change chips' - Omni chief

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[quote] Macworld Daily News



Wednesday - February 05, 2003



Apple 'will change chips' - Omni chief



By Macworld staff



Omni Group CEO Ken Case believes Apple will change it's chip architechture "when the time is right".





Speaking with OS News yesterday, former NeXT developer Case added: "I'm sure Apple is keeping its options open, and will introduce support for another CPU architecture."





His comments fuel speculation that Apple is considering adopting processors from manufacturers other than Motorola.





Motorola's G4 development has slowed, meaning Apple is at a disadvantage in terms of processor speeds. Motorola is working on a new processor architecture - G5, but no active news on this has appeared.





Alternative suppliers include IBM with its PowerPC 970 chip, while others suggest Mac OS X has the ability to exist on Intel processors.





Case also revealed that the Omni Group, which distributes the OmniWeb browser, is "taking a hard look at KHTML". KHTML is the rendering engine used in Apple's OS X Web browser, Safari.





Of Safari, Case said: "I'm very glad to see Apple basing its products on standards and open-source technologies. Safari isn't really competition for OmniWeb. OmniWeb is for users looking for the best browsing experience, while Safari is aimed at entry-level surfers, he claims.





On Apple's unique position as hardware, software and operating systems vendor, Case said: "It allows Apple to innovate in ways that involve the complete integrated package, rather than being limited to innovation within each level".





Case also discussed his experiences with NeXT. Apple CEO Steve Jobs launched NeXT upon leaving Apple in 1985. Apple acquired NeXT - and Jobs - in 1996, folding many NeXT technologies into OS X. <hr></blockquote>



<a href="http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/main_news.cfm?NewsID=5913"; target="_blank">Macworld UK</a>

<a href="http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2736&page=1"; target="_blank">Complete interview on osnews here</a>
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  • Reply 1 of 27
    jlljll Posts: 2,709member
    You forgot one very important word at the end of that thread title: believes
  • Reply 2 of 27
    chychchych Posts: 860member
    Alright Captain Obvious



    I'm sure Apple will be sticking with the G4 for 20 more years
  • Reply 3 of 27
    jlljll Posts: 2,709member
    [quote]Originally posted by chych:

    <strong>Alright Captain Obvious



    I'm sure Apple will be sticking with the G4 for 20 more years </strong><hr></blockquote>



    I wouldn't call PPC970 a new chip architecture - it's still a PowerPC.
  • Reply 4 of 27
    henriokhenriok Posts: 537member
    Nothing new here.. He says almost exactly what Steve himself has said before. Apple like to have their doors open, change of plattform might happen in the future, and Mac OS X is their ticket to independence.



    It's all been said before.
  • Reply 5 of 27
    [quote]Originally posted by JLL:

    <strong>I wouldn't call PPC970 a new chip architecture - it's still a PowerPC.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    PowerPC is the instruction set architecture, but that doesn't imply the same implementation architecture. The 970 is extremely different in the architecture of how it implements the same ISA as the G4.
  • Reply 6 of 27
    This guy has no more credibility than Ryan Meader at MOSR. Yeah, Steve Jobs called him specifically into his office in Cupertino and said, "Psst. Keep this under your hat. We're going to change chips and I want an important developer like you to be the first and only one I tell."



    This is the same bullsh!t rumor that's been going around for years. Mac-on-Intel, or Mac+AMD, whatever. Pure crap.
  • Reply 7 of 27
    'This film is' not 'that great!'



    The Macworld rehash infuses the quote with unintended meaning by way of decontextualising it and adding a sensational title. The original article, which I read yesterday or this morning, in no way led me to believe Ken Case had insider info.
  • Reply 8 of 27
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    Oh for god's sake.



    The original interview is at <a href="http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2736"; target="_blank">OSNews</a>, and the FULL quote is:



    [quote]7. Do you think that Apple would make the big jump to AMD Opteron or to plain x86? Do you see something like this happening, does it make sense for Apple and maybe your business?



    Ken Case: As you may know, NeXT supported four CPU architecture families: Motorola 680x0s, Intel 80x86s, HP PA-RISCs, and Sun SPARCs. I'm sure that Apple is keeping their options open, and will introduce support for another CPU architecture when the time is right.



    For this to happen, of course, they need to wean people away from (the unportable) Mac OS 9. Since they've just introduced hardware which requires Mac OS X, I think they're one step closer to the point where they can make such a move without backlash from the wider Macintosh community. <hr></blockquote>



    WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT.



    Good god, MacWorld, way to tank your little remaining credibility by chopping up the quote to give your little spin on it. Jeez.



    [ 02-05-2003: Message edited by: Kickaha ]</p>
  • Reply 9 of 27
    nevynnevyn Posts: 360member
    I'd just add that 'chip architecture' can also apply to the other pieces - not necessarily just the CPU. There's a lot of rumbling that Apple will adopt something similar to RapidIO or HyperTransport...which would involve a lot of major changes to the motherboard. There's also rumblings that the GPU will become more 'targetable' as a unit to send work to -&gt; very different than where we are right now.



    This is all smoke. And far in the future smoke at that. (Note that he mentions getting away from Mac OS 9...still going to be a lot of Mac OS 9 around for awhile, Classic isn't dead - just boot-into-9.)
  • Reply 10 of 27
    progmacprogmac Posts: 1,850member
    safari is for entry-level surfers?? what does that even mean? i'm not a safari user, but i fail to understand how a particular browser is only for "advanced surfers"
  • Reply 11 of 27
    telomartelomar Posts: 1,804member
    [quote]Originally posted by progmac:

    <strong>safari is for entry-level surfers?? what does that even mean? i'm not a safari user, but i fail to understand how a particular browser is only for "advanced surfers"</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Safari is somewhat slim on preferences. It can be pretty annoying at times.
  • Reply 12 of 27
    nebagakidnebagakid Posts: 2,692member
    Man, i was hoping to see what the Omni Chef said...snap! <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" /> <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" /> <img src="graemlins/cancer.gif" border="0" alt="[cancer]" />
  • Reply 13 of 27
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    [quote]Originally posted by progmac:

    <strong>safari is for entry-level surfers?? what does that even mean? i'm not a safari user, but i fail to understand how a particular browser is only for "advanced surfers"</strong><hr></blockquote>



    For one thing, Safari does not include, and will probably never include, the web authoring capabilities that OmniWeb has.



    Omni's home page is designed and uploaded in OmniWeb.
  • Reply 14 of 27
    progmacprogmac Posts: 1,850member
    [quote]Originally posted by Amorph:

    <strong>



    For one thing, Safari does not include, and will probably never include, the web authoring capabilities that OmniWeb has.



    Omni's home page is designed and uploaded in OmniWeb.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    well that sounds cool. i've never really been an OW user. i'll just have to check it out!
  • Reply 15 of 27
    kickahakickaha Posts: 8,760member
    It's minimalist, but better than nothing.



    Basically it presents the HTML to you in a nicely formatted indent-form with syntax coloring, but not WYSIWYG. It also gives you basic error checking for the syntax as you type, ala spell check. Simple, but nice.
  • Reply 16 of 27
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
    [quote]Originally posted by Kickaha:

    <strong>It's minimalist, but better than nothing.



    Basically it presents the HTML to you in a nicely formatted indent-form with syntax coloring, but not WYSIWYG. It also gives you basic error checking for the syntax as you type, ala spell check. Simple, but nice.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    And it has WebDAV support as well, so you can load a page, view source, make a change and save it.



    Minimalist is not always a bad thing.
  • Reply 17 of 27
    zozo Posts: 3,115member
    it doesnt have friggen Tabs...



    chimera remains my browser of choice until safari improves in general and gives me tabs dammit.
  • Reply 18 of 27
    I've always enjoyed Chimera's speed, but I just don't get some folks' insistance on tabbed browsing. I've used it, and while neat it's no more convenient than having several windows open and cycling through them with Appple + ~. Unless, of course, your other hand is busy somewhere....
  • Reply 19 of 27
    aquaticaquatic Posts: 5,602member
    Because you can't see the titles of the windows.
  • Reply 20 of 27
    ast3r3xast3r3x Posts: 5,012member
    tabs are so annoying, and i dont see the point. why would u want to have more then 3 windows open at a time?



    i normally have one, maybe 2, and RARELY 3
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