I've noticed that the PC nerds at my school are now giving the Mac and Apple respect, all thanks to the G5. People who previously hated the Mac and everything that comes along with it(including me) are suddenly starting to lay off on the Mac bashing.
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People look at Apple and think "iMac". They didn't even know they made high end machines. It is great Apple is running that TV ad, even though it isn't that great of an ad .
They're the ones stuck with that other OS. They should be happy we don't give them more shit about it. They should be looking to us for acceptance, not the other way around.
Originally posted by ast3r3x
Heh...I heard that the G5 was Apple's PC. Because it's a tower, unlike all their other stuff like the iMac. They didn't even know about G4 Towers. Haha
Even aside from the G5, I'd rather have an iMac than most PC towers. Heck, I do have an iMac rather than a PC tower.
Originally posted by ast3r3x
Heh...I heard that the G5 was Apple's PC. Because it's a tower, unlike all their other stuff like the iMac. They didn't even know about G4 Towers. Haha
I HATE that. And they'd even call iBooks and Powrbooks iMacs.
And the Xserve.
But now, when I say "G5", people know what I mean.
Originally posted by pscates
Shouldn't we welcome more to the fold and not be a little closed society of snobby assholes?
To:
Originally posted by pscates
They should be happy we don't give them more shit about it. They should be looking to us for acceptance, not the other way around.
...in just over 5 hours
Originally posted by Webscreamer
You know, I think your exactly right.
People look at Apple and think "iMac". They didn't even know they made high end machines. It is great Apple is running that TV ad, even though it isn't that great of an ad .
Yep. It's a classic, overused concept. But they did it with Apple's usual attention to detail; like the telephone 'buzz', the wife, and the place where he landed. I wonder how much they paid to use that place?
Originally posted by Ernest eMac
pscates - You've gone from:
To:
...in just over 5 hours
Well let me see here: how, exactly, do the two contradict? I WANT people to come to our side. In DROVES. And the reason I do is because I think it's a better way. What's the problem?
Windows sufferers (those that DO suffer with it..I know plenty of people dig it, God help them) should come over and give us a shot. I LOVE helping newbies and getting people set up and "thinking Mac" (and I love seeing the look on someone's face when they realize "hey, this really makes a lot of sense!".
But I so many condescending, spec whore PC-using buddies that like to give me endless grief about using a Mac...all while they're struggling with a virus, getting their camera to work, weird crashes, etc. THOSE are the people I tend to like to rag on a bit because they kinda ASK FOR IT. And those are the ones I'm referring to. Not your normal, regular guy who just wants to use a computer to get stuff done and make their digital life easier. I'm talking the obnoxious, know-it-all PC tweaker types who really don't know as much as they think they do...
Make sense? I haven't gone from anything to anything "in five short hours". Read deeper and try again...
G5 is definitely garnering praise and attention among the PC crowd (and yes, it matters!)
even the hardcore Wintel dudes at my work know an amazing machine when they see one, and the G5 is be all accounts and amazing piece of technology. i have a brochure taped up at my desk showing the (beautifull engineered) G5 innards, and even total PC-heads come up, look at it, and say "wow, that's beautiful".
Apple did good.
Originally posted by pscates I haven't gone from anything to anything "in five short hours". Read deeper and try again...
"They should be looking to us for acceptance" is VERY snobby.
I think you're a good writer and I enjoy reading your stuff but that kind of thing is daft.
If you think I'm trying to have a go at you then I apologize. I'm not. And believe me, you are far more knowledgeable about the Mac world than I will ever be but must you continue with this whole "mac users are superior in every way" kind of line?
Originally posted by Webscreamer
It is great Apple is running that TV ad, even though it isn't that great of an ad .
nice sentence - i like that
Originally posted by Ernest eMac "They should be looking to us for acceptance" is VERY snobby.
Ernest, please. LIGHTEN up!
Why don't you measure things against the whole and learn to recognize a little bit of saucy, sideways ribbing (I try to make good, liberal usage of smileys to help out in that area).
...but must you continue with this whole "mac users are superior in every way" kind of line?
Yes, I must.
Seriously, see above. Relax. I think everyone here probably got the whole "looking to US for acceptance" as a exaggerated little comment (knowing full well that Apple is always going to hold a smaller piece of the pie than Microsoft). I don't think anyone but you, honestly, saw that as a true, serious "snobby" comment. It's one of those silly things you say with tongue firmly in your cheek.
If the little green laughing smiley face immediately following that comment didn't tip you off, then I don't know what to say.
And you know what, Ernest? When I can go over 5 months without a restart (except when a software update requires it) and I can sit down and do EVERYTHING I intend to do with any software and peripheral I may have installed while at the same time having my ear bent by various smart-assed friends of mine who are whining about how their PC just crashed and they lost their paper or whatever, I can't help but view that as a slightly "superior" experience.
What do you want me to say? Should I wish for my Mac to act up and spaz out with the frequency of my friends and family members various Gateways and Compaqs and so forth?
No way...I've got work to do!
Relax, lighten up just a little, see comments (particularly those involving smileys) for what they are, realize that I'm not a demon and am quite a swell guy who loves to see people coming over to our side (and is always there to help in whatever way I can).
I think you've got me pegged wrong and you're taking things a bit too seriously.
Apologies.
Originally posted by pscates
But I so many condescending, spec whore PC-using buddies that like to give me endless grief about using a Mac
Are condescending, spec-whoring (G5!) Mac using people that like to give people endless grief abbout using a PC better?
Originally posted by pscates
they kinda ASK FOR IT.
Hubris, my friend, hubris.
Being a switcher/cross-platformer, I see each side has its own strengths and weaknesses. I am very zen that way. 8)
I also look at the word snobby and see that there are different types:
Those who have it but dont allow others to.
Those who have it and show others how to get it.
I like to think that the second is the way to go. As a mac user I completely agree with pscates that in some way I feel that my experience is in atleast one way superior to a windows-only user. And so, I should flaunt it to my upmost ability but also allow others to see it, try it, and show them how to attain it.
I think many of us still have to understand the difference between more words than just 'snobby.' This could include arrogance, or just plain big egomaniac. But I believe that this same philosophy can be applied to any such word that follows thier lead.
I may not be right by any means in my thinking and you can certainly have your opinions about it. It is a forum Damnit!
Oh, and before I forget...
I have never had so many friends actually asking me what I know about the G5. They love it! I can just remember a few months back when all they did was laugh at macs when I would say something. Now hey just sit there drooling when I speak of them.
I'm loving it!
8)
I'm still using my olde LC-475...
Like surfing Malibu on a match stick...
Yeeeee Haaarrrr Surfs up dudes...
I don?t think that being ?fastest? is vital for most computer users if they were honest with themselves about their needs ? I, personally, decided on Apple for other reasons. But image is as important as honest need, and the G5 ? the ?fastest? - is the image that Apple needed right now to draw attention to their technology, including OSX. Good for them - I hope that developments in G5 keep Apple ahead in speed, (even if I will not be giving up my IMac G3 500 anytime soon).
Originally posted by Ernest eMac
[Bbut must you continue with this whole "mac users are superior in every way" kind of line? [/B]
But we are!
Kneel Before ZOD!