Apple should have switched to Intel the moment Motorola started giving them shit with the G4. If not when they f*cked up at first and had to reduce the speed by 50 MHz, then they should have dropped them when they got stuck a 500 MHz for a year and a half.
But they didn't. They rode it through. As a result, they have access to an awesome 64-bit chip. As far as I know, Intel's only 64-bit chip is the Itanium, which costs like $10,000 for a single 933 MHz processor and can't run 32-bit code. Pretty freaking stupid if you ask me.
Maybe this rumor would have held water in early 2000, but coming now that Apple has totally wasted on Intel (and AMD) on the 64-bit front, it's complete bullshit.
If it wasn't obvious that the Apple/IBM partnership is just beginning to blossom from the WWDC Keynote, then I don't know what else there is to ensure people that "It's okay."
Intel just doesn't seem to have the spirit for R&D that IBM does -- nor the humor (recall the feathering of the 970s -- those guys KNEW this proc. and its future were going to kick serious posterior).
I doubt they will, and if they did, frankly I'd be disappointed.
The G4 has problems, but it's fast enough for many (and so is the G3.) For people who want power, Apple has the G5. It runs fast. The Dual model can beat the pants off a Pentium, and for consumers processor speed matters less, and Apple can soon put the G5 in them too. As for laptops, true the G5 isn't ready for lightweight yet, but neithier is the P4. The PM is, but recompiling would be a huge hassle to Apple and other companies, as other bits of software would have to be recompiled as well. And you can bet someone might come up with a way of hacking OS X so it runs on a standard PC. Note: Apple already has Darwin compiled for Pentiums. Also, I perfer AMD; I have an Athlon 1Ghz, and the only problems with it are: 1. It runs Whinedows, and it looks really ugly.
I smell a very smelly POO. They guy cant even spell for Christ's sake!
"The initial plan will involve Apple offering both existing RISC processor systems and an Intel based system" - that would be some "duel" my money would be on the RISC processor!
I've honestly not laughed so much for a long while!
Obviously, the author of this piece of Hunter S. Thompson fiction has been sampling one of those fabulous Aussie lagers like Boags, and the old noggin has simply blown a fuse.
I found the original article on another server check it out !!!!
Intel set to go Apple
September 2004
By David Richards
Intel is set to announce an windows based PC that will run on an Apple operating system.
The first system is expected to shown at Macworld San Francisco in January 2004 according to an Intel US source. The initial plan will involve Intel offering both existing P5 processor systems and an Intel based POS7, 02 bit system with RISKY? processing backwards compatibility and with the P5 processor from INTEL system being phased out as new software is developed. An original idea (rare at Intel) to release a duel platform MAC/INTEL has been scrapped according to Apple insiders in San Francisco, Chicago, Illinois and Buenos Aires.
Software companies like Adobe, who develop for the Mac platform and Intel based system have already been briefed on the proposed move. One victim of the move could be Apple?s relationship with Microsoft. Currently Microsoft develops the Office suite of programs for the Mac platform however Apple are not happy with quality and have asked Microsoft to invest further in research, research, research, and development and defiantly some management restructuring before further production of the Mac Office offering.
This could trigger a move by UNIX to offering the Star Office suite of software from Sun particularly if Microsoft refuses to develop for an Intel based PC Game box running a Lindows operating system.
If Intel were to go solely with the Apple based system the biggest problems would be that every existing Windows program and the entire windows OS would have to be recompiled to work under Darwin. For new versions of current programs that would be fairly simple, but for older software it would not be worthwhile. However in accordance with BBP (Backwards bill policy) Billions will be spent upgrading long forgotten operating systems to allow hardware from the mid eighties now worth less than a sandwich at the local dinner to be kept operating with a simple twelve hour week long software intergrade for a lowly estimated 3000 USD.
By releasing an Intel based system Apple will be able to offer the best of both worlds.
A gradual adoption Intel by of the Apple architecture would give time for the costs to drop and software to be upgraded. Eventually all Computers will be Apples.
An Apple source told SmutHouse Magazine ?Apple and Intel have been in bed for a while. We are looking at delivering a series of solutions that run on IBM's chip. The issue right now are software related as a great deal of code will have to be re written for both the Windows operating system and the IBM chip?. They added ?This initiative is, will, can and should happen, but when depends on how quickly the software issues are resolved?. And the price of the Intel restructuring .
Comments
Originally posted by Malokata
My proposal:
We ignore any posts relating to Apple flirting with Intel, Intel flirting with Apple, or Steve Jobs flirting with Bill Gates.
The first two are always unfounded, provoke way too much discussion, and are basically ridiculous, and the last is just disgusting.
Agreed?
we should start a rumor "steve is gay" - many readings, many meanings
Originally posted by Malokata
My proposal:
We ignore any posts relating to Apple flirting with Intel, Intel flirting with Apple, or Steve Jobs flirting with Bill Gates.
The first two are always unfounded, provoke way too much discussion, and are basically ridiculous, and the last is just disgusting.
Agreed?
Yeah, but what about Steve and Bill Clinton (Big Al's buddy)
But they didn't. They rode it through. As a result, they have access to an awesome 64-bit chip. As far as I know, Intel's only 64-bit chip is the Itanium, which costs like $10,000 for a single 933 MHz processor and can't run 32-bit code. Pretty freaking stupid if you ask me.
Maybe this rumor would have held water in early 2000, but coming now that Apple has totally wasted on Intel (and AMD) on the 64-bit front, it's complete bullshit.
If it wasn't obvious that the Apple/IBM partnership is just beginning to blossom from the WWDC Keynote, then I don't know what else there is to ensure people that "It's okay."
Intel just doesn't seem to have the spirit for R&D that IBM does -- nor the humor (recall the feathering of the 970s -- those guys KNEW this proc. and its future were going to kick serious posterior).
Originally posted by Malokata
My proposal:
We ignore any posts relating to Apple flirting with Intel, Intel flirting with Apple, or Steve Jobs flirting with Bill Gates.
The first two are always unfounded, provoke way too much discussion, and are basically ridiculous, and the last is just disgusting.
Agreed?
actually in 1984 bill was flirting with steve.
he loved the macintosh that much his arm was brown to his elbow.
The G4 has problems, but it's fast enough for many (and so is the G3.) For people who want power, Apple has the G5. It runs fast. The Dual model can beat the pants off a Pentium, and for consumers processor speed matters less, and Apple can soon put the G5 in them too. As for laptops, true the G5 isn't ready for lightweight yet, but neithier is the P4. The PM is, but recompiling would be a huge hassle to Apple and other companies, as other bits of software would have to be recompiled as well. And you can bet someone might come up with a way of hacking OS X so it runs on a standard PC. Note: Apple already has Darwin compiled for Pentiums. Also, I perfer AMD; I have an Athlon 1Ghz, and the only problems with it are: 1. It runs Whinedows, and it looks really ugly.
1. The G5 couldn't be killed, at least not now. It still is faster then a Pentium with properly compiled programs.
2. Everyone seems to forget the other software would have to be recompiled as well.
3. If they go Intel/AMD, they'd better wait until the Athlon 64 comes out.
4. What would they do about OS 9.2?
MSKR
"The initial plan will involve Apple offering both existing RISC processor systems and an Intel based system" - that would be some "duel" my money would be on the RISC processor!
too stupid of a rumor to comment on..
Sorry, by posting, twice no less, you commented on it!
I emailed the author suggesting he log in to this thread.
Obviously, the author of this piece of Hunter S. Thompson fiction has been sampling one of those fabulous Aussie lagers like Boags, and the old noggin has simply blown a fuse.
I found the original article on another server check it out !!!!
Intel set to go Apple
September 2004
By David Richards
Intel is set to announce an windows based PC that will run on an Apple operating system.
The first system is expected to shown at Macworld San Francisco in January 2004 according to an Intel US source. The initial plan will involve Intel offering both existing P5 processor systems and an Intel based POS7, 02 bit system with RISKY? processing backwards compatibility and with the P5 processor from INTEL system being phased out as new software is developed. An original idea (rare at Intel) to release a duel platform MAC/INTEL has been scrapped according to Apple insiders in San Francisco, Chicago, Illinois and Buenos Aires.
Software companies like Adobe, who develop for the Mac platform and Intel based system have already been briefed on the proposed move. One victim of the move could be Apple?s relationship with Microsoft. Currently Microsoft develops the Office suite of programs for the Mac platform however Apple are not happy with quality and have asked Microsoft to invest further in research, research, research, and development and defiantly some management restructuring before further production of the Mac Office offering.
This could trigger a move by UNIX to offering the Star Office suite of software from Sun particularly if Microsoft refuses to develop for an Intel based PC Game box running a Lindows operating system.
If Intel were to go solely with the Apple based system the biggest problems would be that every existing Windows program and the entire windows OS would have to be recompiled to work under Darwin. For new versions of current programs that would be fairly simple, but for older software it would not be worthwhile. However in accordance with BBP (Backwards bill policy) Billions will be spent upgrading long forgotten operating systems to allow hardware from the mid eighties now worth less than a sandwich at the local dinner to be kept operating with a simple twelve hour week long software intergrade for a lowly estimated 3000 USD.
By releasing an Intel based system Apple will be able to offer the best of both worlds.
A gradual adoption Intel by of the Apple architecture would give time for the costs to drop and software to be upgraded. Eventually all Computers will be Apples.
An Apple source told SmutHouse Magazine ?Apple and Intel have been in bed for a while. We are looking at delivering a series of solutions that run on IBM's chip. The issue right now are software related as a great deal of code will have to be re written for both the Windows operating system and the IBM chip?. They added ?This initiative is, will, can and should happen, but when depends on how quickly the software issues are resolved?. And the price of the Intel restructuring .