New iPod recording ability
Does anybody have detailed information on this? I saw the Belkin voice recorder advertised, but I didn't find information on:
Recording format/bit rate... AND
Does this feature work with other (better quality) external microphones?
The reason I ask these questions is because it would be handy for recording my voice lessons and/or short demos. However, if the sound quality is low, it won't do me a bit of good. It would be much better than taking the laptop, recording AIFF (remembering to disable the sleep function on the computer), then importing into iTunes and splitting tracks/compressing it.
Matthew
Recording format/bit rate... AND
Does this feature work with other (better quality) external microphones?
The reason I ask these questions is because it would be handy for recording my voice lessons and/or short demos. However, if the sound quality is low, it won't do me a bit of good. It would be much better than taking the laptop, recording AIFF (remembering to disable the sleep function on the computer), then importing into iTunes and splitting tracks/compressing it.
Matthew
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Originally posted by SuperMatt
Does anybody have detailed information on this? I saw the Belkin voice recorder advertised, but I didn't find information on:
Recording format/bit rate... AND
Does this feature work with other (better quality) external microphones?
Well, I read on the Heise newsticker (http://www.heise.de) that the belkin vr records in wav format, so this is probably uncompressed audio - this will drain the batteries quite fast, I suppose.
Hopefully other companies will come up with other solutions - I want a combined headphone-microphone combo.
And I want play-and-record at-once, this would be cool for layering music - a small recording studio in your pocket!
-karsten
Originally posted by Defiant
All things iPod belong to Digital Hub. Moving there now?
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Originally posted by Galen
I would bet that the sound signal is being recorded in through the remote plug. That port is designed to take signals in. The minijack only puts sound out, so plugging a mic in there wouldn't do anything, the only reason the belkin has it is to play through the little speaker. At least, that's what i think.
No the remote plug is a low-speed serial interface. The remote communicates commands to the iPod via it. The actual audio recording is done through the headphone port as proved by the fact that people could record audio in diagnostics mode (before Apple removed it) by talking into their one of headphones. However it is highly likely that the remote port is used for some kind of detection/communiaction between the two devices. For example to tell it when to turn the recording LED on and off. Give it time, it won't take long for someone to workout the commands being sent and document them.
Damn shame that it appears u can only record with the belkin MIC.
Originally posted by O and A
Damn shame that it appears u can only record with the belkin MIC.
Give it time, it wouldn't be hard for someone to analyse the commands being send an hack up a PIC microcontroller to fake it. I might even do it as soon as exams are over.
The pinout and serial protocol are already documented
http://www.maushammer.com/systems/ip...od-remote.html
Originally posted by ast3r3x
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He found the Cat Daniels Penthouse photoshoot for alcimedes. So alcimedes gave him a week-long temporary moderator status.
Also, the 1/8" jack has three connections instead of stereo which takes two. So quite possibly the recording takes place through the third connection (which no normal mic has).
Macaddict16
Originally posted by Macaddict16
How do you activate he voice recording mode? I have updated my iPod but can not find voice mems anywhere.
Also, the 1/8" jack has three connections instead of stereo which takes two. So quite possibly the recording takes place through the third connection (which no normal mic has).
Macaddict16
All stereo mini-plugs have 3 connections, Left, Right and Ground. The mic probably uses one or both of Left and Right to get an input signal. Possibly, the player is capable of recording in Stereo. That would be interesting.
-Spyky
Originally posted by Spyky
All stereo mini-plugs have 3 connections, Left, Right and Ground. The mic probably uses one or both of Left and Right to get an input signal. Possibly, the player is capable of recording in Stereo. That would be interesting.
-Spyky
Stereo mini plugs do not all have t connections. Look at the iPod remote connector and the earbuds connector for example. ALL headphones with the mini jack have two connections. Very few stereo devices (if any, the only ones I have seen are on iPods or other devices with remotes) have the third connector. Some camcorders do because the third is used to carry video.
Macaddict16
Originally posted by Macaddict16
Stereo mini plugs do not all have t connections. Look at the iPod remote connector and the earbuds connector for example. ALL headphones with the mini jack have two connections. Very few stereo devices (if any, the only ones I have seen are on iPods or other devices with remotes) have the third connector. Some camcorders do because the third is used to carry video.
Macaddict16
No, Spyky is right. They all have 3, the iPod one and ones you've seen on video cameras have 4. 3 is the minimum: left, right and ground. The recording feature makes use of the fact that one or both of the left or right connections can also be used for input.
Originally posted by Spyky
..... The mic probably uses one or both of Left and Right to get an input signal. Possibly, the player is capable of recording in Stereo. That would be interesting.
-Spyky
The 'record' option is not available as any separate menu option. As soon as you plug-in the recorder into the socket, the record option pops up in the iPod [I saw this in the cnet video of Steve's presentation] 8)
Also, belkin's website says that the recording is mono, not stereo and the format is mono, wave.
Originally posted by filmmaker2002
I'm interested to know if Future iPods will have built in recording. Jobs might have slipped up during the keynote speech. If you listen as he is talking about the Belkin adapter he says..."The new iPods....I mean the DOCKABLE iPods will be able to record voice..." or something to that effect. Might just be me overanalyzing, but it would be better than carrying around another adapter.
i believe the preferred marketing speak for all 3G iPods is now "with dock connector" instead of "new"
by "new", steve could have been referring to the just the new models released a few weeks ago. by saying "dock connector" he makes it clear which ones he's referring to.
How about we make this thread the official "new iPod peripherals" thread? Because I think that if I opened such a thread from scratch they would soon be merged.
The thing I don't get is why they did not use the dock-connector to connect the recording device. Is this for powering reasons and the dock-connector is just for filesystem operations?
Also, the voice recording thing looks kind of bulky and cheesy in design, but that's a question of personal preference.
But the media card reader is really bulky. I hope that they develop a device that acts as plug between your camera's USB-cable and the connector so you can directly link both devices and ridding the neccessity of lugging around a additional bulky device.
I hope that Apple will open these features to other developers so we will see a little bit of competiton in the market.