Do believe me. Its getting mighty cold here too sometimes. Still see those turbines spinning in -25 F. Actually the wind carries much more energy when its cold.
To be honest: the fossile fuel used in Alaska isn´t the problem. They could get their energy from burning PVC at low temperatures if they wanted to if only the part of your country that can be linked to the grid would use alternative energy sources. I´m not going to suggest the alaskians (or what they are called) use probane produced from solar or wind energy in California becuase it would shift the focus from the real issue. Do something about the problems where you efford is rewarded the most.
Can't we make ammunition from the uranium waste anyways? JK!
By the way, I don't know of a place in the world that goes windless for weeks. I could be wrong though. \ I would love for companies and governments to invest heavily on alternative sources of energy technology research. We're gonna be FORCED to come up with alternatives as the populations increase so we might aswell start SERIOUS efforts now.
This brings up an interesting point- if we are so capable of the "negative feedback" approach in existing powerplant technology, why can't the Star Trek universe come up with one single damn design for their starfleet where the powerplant isn't an inch away from becoming a "runaway" everytime something goes wrong? (...and don't say because it makes for a convenient plot device, or I'll say you are obviously biased by the "liberal media".)
Do believe me. Its getting mighty cold here too sometimes. Still see those turbines spinning in -25 F. Actually the wind carries much more energy when its cold.
Okay, I'll bite... back this claim up, since it seems opposite of what I'd think...
1) Hotter air may be slightly thinner, but the difference in density of gases will be *miniscule*.
2) Hotter air can hold a *LOT* more water, which is incredibly heavy.
Therefore, hotter air has the potential to have many many times the momentum of cold air.
Can't we make ammunition from the uranium waste anyways? JK!
By the way, I don't know of a place in the world that goes windless for weeks. I could be wrong though. \ I would love for companies and governments to invest heavily on alternative sources of energy technology research. We're gonna be FORCED to come up with alternatives as the populations increase so we might aswell start SERIOUS efforts now.
Yup, but no one wants to put out the cash up front when no one knows which tech will make the $ in the end. \ Sucks.
Heck, I was just talking about greenhouse gases, acid rain, and the like. You're spot on with the radioactivity though. I mean god, can you imagine the uproar if it were nuclear power plants spewing this much in to the air???
That's not fusion, but it can be cold. Although I read reaction rates double every 10 degrees so to be more efficient you would want to heat the water a little.
That's not fusion, but it can be cold. Although I read reaction rates double every 10 degrees so to be more efficient you would want to heat the water a little.
Well, "Cold Fusion" wasn't exactly fusion either. Hell, the effect that was recognized, if it wasn't a hoax (I'm too young to remember) may have been what these canuck's put their names on.
I think I heard that a hydoelectric plant is something like 99% effient while the above process is at this point in time less than 10%. So it's no cure all.
I think I heard that a hydoelectric plant is something like 99% effient while the above process is at this point in time less than 10%. So it's no cure all.
Yes i don't know something more efficiency than hydroelectric plant : nearly no caloric waste, merely pure energy conversion.
Well, "Cold Fusion" wasn't exactly fusion either. Hell, the effect that was recognized, if it wasn't a hoax (I'm too young to remember) may have been what these canuck's put their names on.
I remember this story, it was an error of experimentation. Something got wrong with the platinium.
I remember that scientist declared that an experience is worthless unless others people can reproduce it.
Renewables can work and can provide us with all of our energy needs. Issues of storage of energy when the sun is not shining and the wind is not blowing will be resolved through storage of energy in hydrogen cells?
If people have to pay the costs of developing hydrogen cells, they'll soon have to be shutting off their lights. Just as someone 100 years ago said that "If people have to pay the costs of stringing all that transmission wire, they'll never pay for lights."
I remember this story, it was an error of experimentation. Something got wrong with the platinium.
I remember that scientist declared that an experience is worthless unless others people can reproduce it.
No one's ever explained it, and a number of labs announced 'anomalous' results in line with what Pons and Fleischer reported, but never to the same degree.
The Canadian method involved pumping pressurized water through nanoscopic channels in glass. A very low voltage/current is created, but the water has to be *pressurized*... kinda indicates putting energy into the system, and its efficiency is about *1*%.
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Do believe me. Its getting mighty cold here too sometimes. Still see those turbines spinning in -25 F. Actually the wind carries much more energy when its cold.
To be honest: the fossile fuel used in Alaska isn´t the problem. They could get their energy from burning PVC at low temperatures if they wanted to if only the part of your country that can be linked to the grid would use alternative energy sources. I´m not going to suggest the alaskians (or what they are called) use probane produced from solar or wind energy in California becuase it would shift the focus from the real issue. Do something about the problems where you efford is rewarded the most.
By the way, I don't know of a place in the world that goes windless for weeks. I could be wrong though.
P.S By the way, you guys are SERIOUS geeks.
Originally posted by Anders
Do too
Do believe me. Its getting mighty cold here too sometimes. Still see those turbines spinning in -25 F. Actually the wind carries much more energy when its cold.
Okay, I'll bite... back this claim up, since it seems opposite of what I'd think...
1) Hotter air may be slightly thinner, but the difference in density of gases will be *miniscule*.
2) Hotter air can hold a *LOT* more water, which is incredibly heavy.
Therefore, hotter air has the potential to have many many times the momentum of cold air.
Counterargument?
Originally posted by Gilsch
Can't we make ammunition from the uranium waste anyways?
By the way, I don't know of a place in the world that goes windless for weeks. I could be wrong though.
Yup, but no one wants to put out the cash up front when no one knows which tech will make the $ in the end.
P.S By the way, you guys are SERIOUS geeks.
You're damned straight!
Originally posted by alcimedes
about radioactive waste, from coal plants. i'm with kickaha on this one.
taken from here
Heck, I was just talking about greenhouse gases, acid rain, and the like. You're spot on with the radioactivity though. I mean god, can you imagine the uproar if it were nuclear power plants spewing this much in to the air???
Canadians just discovered a new source of electricity from plain water.
Worth its own thread
Originally posted by curiousuburb
want clean power?
Canadians just discovered a new source of electricity from plain water.
Worth its own thread
cough. . . Cold Fusion. . . cough.
Originally posted by Splinemodel
cough. . . Cold Fusion. . . cough.
Well they got published in Science. Right? That's kind of a reputable publication.
Originally posted by Splinemodel
cough. . . Cold Fusion. . . cough.
That's not fusion, but it can be cold.
Originally posted by Ebby
That's not fusion, but it can be cold.
Well, "Cold Fusion" wasn't exactly fusion either. Hell, the effect that was recognized, if it wasn't a hoax (I'm too young to remember) may have been what these canuck's put their names on.
Originally posted by Scott
I think I heard that a hydoelectric plant is something like 99% effient while the above process is at this point in time less than 10%. So it's no cure all.
Yes i don't know something more efficiency than hydroelectric plant : nearly no caloric waste, merely pure energy conversion.
Originally posted by Splinemodel
Well, "Cold Fusion" wasn't exactly fusion either. Hell, the effect that was recognized, if it wasn't a hoax (I'm too young to remember) may have been what these canuck's put their names on.
I remember this story, it was an error of experimentation. Something got wrong with the platinium.
I remember that scientist declared that an experience is worthless unless others people can reproduce it.
Originally posted by Chinney
Renewables can work and can provide us with all of our energy needs. Issues of storage of energy when the sun is not shining and the wind is not blowing will be resolved through storage of energy in hydrogen cells?
If people have to pay the costs of developing hydrogen cells, they'll soon have to be shutting off their lights. Just as someone 100 years ago said that "If people have to pay the costs of stringing all that transmission wire, they'll never pay for lights."
Originally posted by Powerdoc
I remember this story, it was an error of experimentation. Something got wrong with the platinium.
I remember that scientist declared that an experience is worthless unless others people can reproduce it.
No one's ever explained it, and a number of labs announced 'anomalous' results in line with what Pons and Fleischer reported, but never to the same degree.
The Canadian method involved pumping pressurized water through nanoscopic channels in glass. A very low voltage/current is created, but the water has to be *pressurized*... kinda indicates putting energy into the system, and its efficiency is about *1*%.
Originally posted by Powerdoc
I remember this story, it was an error of experimentation. Something got wrong with the platinium.
I remember that scientist declared that an experience is worthless unless others people can reproduce it.
There are still researchers playing with this set up. They haven't come up with a good explanation of what is going on. Results are hard to duplicate.