A little bird said to me that IBM will release G5 based blade-modules next week. 2x 1.6 GHz 970 for $2700. If IBM can put two of these in a blade, surely Apple can do the same, don't you think?
A little bird said to me that IBM will release G5 based blade-modules next week. 2x 1.6 GHz 970 for $2700. If IBM can put two of these in a blade, surely Apple can do the same, don't you think?
A little bird said to me that IBM will release G5 based blade-modules next week. 2x 1.6 GHz 970 for $2700. If IBM can put two of these in a blade, surely Apple can do the same, don't you think?
No, but I guess that either did the same bird chirp in Think Secret's ear, or another bird chirped the same information, or did Think Secret see my comment and did som digging by themselves.
Why oh why do we keep coming back to this cooling issue! Cooling high performance processors in a 1U form factor has been solved and was solved a long time ago. Plus the form factor mentioned is a blade which could end up having the processors installed in a much high density than the 1U dual SMP machine would imply.
There could be many reasons for IBM to take so long to bring these to market beyond reducing power. One of the most rational reasons would be more cache. Or it might be that IBM is waiting one things from the land of LINUX to stabilize with respect to PPC. It is hihgly unlikely though that any of IBM's delays are due to cooling problems in a 1U form factor.
Thanks
Dave
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Originally posted by opuscroakus
Either the 1.6Ghz runs cooler than we think or else IBM is pulling off some pretty good cooling tricks to stuff two of them in a 1U.
Cant think of one valid reason for Apple to delay their blade server
No, but just to make things extremely clear:
The density of a blade system is approximately twice as high as in a 1U system. If IBM can manage the heat in a blade, then Apple can do it in a regular case. Therefore, it's stupid not to expect Xserve G5 in a 1U rack case.
Apple is not expected to realse any blade systems. I really can't think of any reason why they should.
You can fit six 7U blade servers in a 42U rack. Assuming each blade has 28 PowerPC 970s, then each rack has 168 PowerPC 970s. So, with approximately thirteen 42U racks you could reproduce BigMac.
I did mean 1U servers using the 970, replacing the current dual G4 xserver, not a blade, sorry about that. Perhaps Apple can even user faster 970 than 1.6 Ghz for that...
I'd have to say that new G5 Xserves are due shortly. Just stumbled across a link to this
product overview in the Macintoshian Achaia forums @ Ars Technica.
page 17 of the "Official 2nd Perpetual 970 and G5
Architecture Thread" by Dave_K.
Thought I'd add that there is a "buy now" link on
IBM's product overview site, that would mean
well you know, this isn't vaporware.
Good to see. Also interesting to note that if IBM is using dual 1.6GHz CPUs in a blade format, it creates some interesting possibilities for how far Apple will push the speed of the G5s when the XServe is launched.
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Originally posted by Henriok
A little bird said to me that IBM will release G5 based blade-modules next week. 2x 1.6 GHz 970 for $2700. If IBM can put two of these in a blade, surely Apple can do the same, don't you think?
1U?
Originally posted by G-News
umm, you know what a blade is, do you?
Ummm, yes. You know that I didn't see that, do[n't] you?
Originally posted by Henriok
A little bird said to me that IBM will release G5 based blade-modules next week. 2x 1.6 GHz 970 for $2700. If IBM can put two of these in a blade, surely Apple can do the same, don't you think?
Are you Think Secret?
Originally posted by DHagan4755
Are you Think Secret?
No, but I guess that either did the same bird chirp in Think Secret's ear, or another bird chirped the same information, or did Think Secret see my comment and did som digging by themselves.
Originally posted by bluesigns
I wouldn't be surprised if IBM had some little contractual clause that gave them first crack at coming out with PPC970 server iron.
Originally posted by opuscroakus
Either the 1.6Ghz runs cooler than we think or else IBM is pulling off some pretty good cooling tricks to stuff two of them in a 1U.
Uh, they are not talking about a 1U server...
They are talking about IBM blade servers...
An IBM blade server is 7U, and can hold up to 14 blades, each blade carrying 2 CPUs...
So we are talking about a possible maximum of 28 PPC970 CPUs in 7U of space...
Can you say 7U Shake/Maya/RenderMan renderfarm?!? (assuming of course. that Apple comes out with their own blade server...)
Sweet!
There could be many reasons for IBM to take so long to bring these to market beyond reducing power. One of the most rational reasons would be more cache. Or it might be that IBM is waiting one things from the land of LINUX to stabilize with respect to PPC. It is hihgly unlikely though that any of IBM's delays are due to cooling problems in a 1U form factor.
Thanks
Dave
Originally posted by opuscroakus
Either the 1.6Ghz runs cooler than we think or else IBM is pulling off some pretty good cooling tricks to stuff two of them in a 1U.
Originally posted by DrBoar
Cant think of one valid reason for Apple to delay their blade server
No, but just to make things extremely clear:
The density of a blade system is approximately twice as high as in a 1U system. If IBM can manage the heat in a blade, then Apple can do it in a regular case. Therefore, it's stupid not to expect Xserve G5 in a 1U rack case.
Apple is not expected to realse any blade systems. I really can't think of any reason why they should.
...when Newisys was able to ship something like this:
Kind of similar looking, aren't they.
I'd have to say that new G5 Xserves are due shortly. Just stumbled across a link to this
product overview in the Macintoshian Achaia forums @ Ars Technica.
page 17 of the "Official 2nd Perpetual 970 and G5
Architecture Thread" by Dave_K.
Thought I'd add that there is a "buy now" link on
IBM's product overview site, that would mean
well you know, this isn't vaporware.
Originally posted by rickag
I'd have to say that new G5 Xserves are due shortly. Just stumbled across a link to this
product overview in the Macintoshian Achaia forums @ Ars Technica.
page 17 of the "Official 2nd Perpetual 970 and G5
Architecture Thread" by Dave_K.
Thought I'd add that there is a "buy now" link on
IBM's product overview site, that would mean
well you know, this isn't vaporware.
Good to see. Also interesting to note that if IBM is using dual 1.6GHz CPUs in a blade format, it creates some interesting possibilities for how far Apple will push the speed of the G5s when the XServe is launched.