Things got a whole lot worse before they got better. Things are getting better.
Recently this problem coworker of mine has taken to making derogatory and insulting comments to one woman when she's trying to eat her lunch and chat in the break room. She tells me she can't take him anymore, insults and put downs. I told her over and over again to complain. Write it down and walk into his boss's office and lay it out. Or call HR. She wouldn't do it. She says, "What am I supposed to say that he's insulting and unprofessional?" and I say "that's a great start and be ready with real examples."
Then today we hear (hear say) that he went into another woman's office and called her a "sank" and a "whore". This other woman wont write down the incident and go to her supervisor or HR. I hear that she says no one would believe her.
I don't understand these women. Why would any professional woman in this day and age take this kind of harassment and abuse at a major academic institution?
Apparently this guy is getting ready to go out with a bang. He's taking a job with another place. Too bad it's only a reassignment. Technically he'll still be working for the same employer, just at a different site. All the more reason for this women to register his harassment.
The elation in the department was surreal. Everyone is overjoyed.
I don't understand these women. Why would any professional woman in this day and age take this kind of harassment and abuse at a major academic institution?
Because feminism hasn't had enough of an effect?
Glad to hear that the guy's leaving, though. You should really get on those co-workers to file reports on him.
Unfortunately most everything I hear is second or third hand. I don't know this other woman well enough to ask her about it. I'm pissed off at my bosses for not doing anything about it.
Unfortunately most everything I hear is second or third hand. I don't know this other woman well enough to ask her about it. I'm pissed off at my bosses for not doing anything about it.
This is clearly a problem that HR should know about anyway. Send an anonymous email to them describing the situation and your inability to get first hand proof. If your HR is any good at all they will followup on the situation.
Maybe I will. Maybe if HR comes down the damn will break.
Just explain the situation in a manner that HR will feel the need to respond to. Say that despite the women not wanting to come forward, it is hurting productivity and damaging overall employee morale. Say that the situation will not suddenly go away when he leaves because the fact that the rules are not applied fairly will still continue to harm employee morale, productivity, and employee retention which will bottom line cost the company time and money.
Yea I'm going to. Now I'm torn. If they start to look into this will it kill his new position and keep him from leaving? That would be the worse outcome. Hummmm? Maybe I should wait for his last day?
man, we had a woman like that were i used to work. (she's still there) she's ****ing a higher up though, so she pretty much can't get fired.
my favorite was when she showed up at two in the afternoon then wrote down she worked 12 hours that day. unless she can bend the laws of time and/or physics, that's not possible.
the worst part is it's all logged by the security system and no one will do a thing about it anyway.
Just explain the situation in a manner that HR will feel the need to respond to.
Tell them you're afraid that these women will band together and sue. Or that you think his next move will be violence. That'll get their attention. Even if you only heard this stuff second hand, there would be an investigation. I just got out of an hour long staff meeting last week about our company's zero-tolerance rules about harassment, and we were specifcally told that we should report this stuff, whether we witness it personally or hear about a pattern of abuse.
He most likely would not be affected in his new position if he's already got it- they wouldn't go to his new bosses and tell them that he's under investigation, it would just be in his record if it happens again. If the worthless twit isn't canned from this alone
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Recently this problem coworker of mine has taken to making derogatory and insulting comments to one woman when she's trying to eat her lunch and chat in the break room. She tells me she can't take him anymore, insults and put downs. I told her over and over again to complain. Write it down and walk into his boss's office and lay it out. Or call HR. She wouldn't do it. She says, "What am I supposed to say that he's insulting and unprofessional?" and I say "that's a great start and be ready with real examples."
Then today we hear (hear say) that he went into another woman's office and called her a "sank" and a "whore". This other woman wont write down the incident and go to her supervisor or HR. I hear that she says no one would believe her.
I don't understand these women. Why would any professional woman in this day and age take this kind of harassment and abuse at a major academic institution?
Apparently this guy is getting ready to go out with a bang. He's taking a job with another place. Too bad it's only a reassignment. Technically he'll still be working for the same employer, just at a different site. All the more reason for this women to register his harassment.
The elation in the department was surreal. Everyone is overjoyed.
Originally posted by Scott
I don't understand these women. Why would any professional woman in this day and age take this kind of harassment and abuse at a major academic institution?
Because feminism hasn't had enough of an effect?
Glad to hear that the guy's leaving, though. You should really get on those co-workers to file reports on him.
Cheers
Scott
Originally posted by Scott
Unfortunately most everything I hear is second or third hand. I don't know this other woman well enough to ask her about it. I'm pissed off at my bosses for not doing anything about it.
This is clearly a problem that HR should know about anyway. Send an anonymous email to them describing the situation and your inability to get first hand proof. If your HR is any good at all they will followup on the situation.
Originally posted by Scott
Maybe I will. Maybe if HR comes down the damn will break.
Just explain the situation in a manner that HR will feel the need to respond to. Say that despite the women not wanting to come forward, it is hurting productivity and damaging overall employee morale. Say that the situation will not suddenly go away when he leaves because the fact that the rules are not applied fairly will still continue to harm employee morale, productivity, and employee retention which will bottom line cost the company time and money.
my favorite was when she showed up at two in the afternoon then wrote down she worked 12 hours that day. unless she can bend the laws of time and/or physics, that's not possible.
the worst part is it's all logged by the security system and no one will do a thing about it anyway.
Originally posted by BR
Just explain the situation in a manner that HR will feel the need to respond to.
Tell them you're afraid that these women will band together and sue. Or that you think his next move will be violence. That'll get their attention. Even if you only heard this stuff second hand, there would be an investigation. I just got out of an hour long staff meeting last week about our company's zero-tolerance rules about harassment, and we were specifcally told that we should report this stuff, whether we witness it personally or hear about a pattern of abuse.
He most likely would not be affected in his new position if he's already got it- they wouldn't go to his new bosses and tell them that he's under investigation, it would just be in his record if it happens again. If the worthless twit isn't canned from this alone