Apple to release PowerMac Pro (?)
During the keynote, Steve shows off the new PowerMac G4. 2 models. Both single processor. 866MHz and 1.0GHz and no L3 cache. Both with PC133 128MB RAM (the bare minimum for OS X) and with 40, 60GB HDD, respectively. Either CDRW or combo drives and with GeForce2 MX video card for the low end and GeForce3 for the mid-range. Prices are $999 and $1499 for them. Not bad little boxes and great prices. But they are not even close to what we expected and there's no high end in the bunch.
Then the 'one more thing'. 4 new G5 configs in new cases. 1.2, 1.4 and 1.6GHz with 512KB L2 cache. 256 and 512MB RAM options and Super-drives across the board. GeForce3 or maybe the new radeon 8500's as video options and include DDR-SDRAm running at 266MHz with 400MHz system bus. 60-80-100GB HDDs using ATA/133 and the faster firewire will be onboard. They won't be available until Febuary and the prices will be $1999, $2499, $2999 and $3499 for a dual 1.4GHz option.
Now all you naysayers that think Apple wont allow another case to disrupt their perfect little quadrant lineup, consider this: didn't they do the same with the Cube? But where the Cube failed the PowerMac G4 will succeed. Why? Because by using pre-existing designs, they will cut r&d overhead, it will have much more expandability, and use more common parts.
The case against this senario: the iMac. Apple would either have to stick with a G3 for the iMac LCD and price it low ($1000-$1300), put a G4 in it at 1GHz with 133MHz bus with LCD and keep it at $1500 (this would likely mean only one model of imac with DVD/cdrw combo drive) and keep the combo drive out of the PowerMac line. Or they would discontinue the iMac. I think the latter is the less likely senario.
I know this theory has quite a bit of holes but it's a likely transition for the G5. Get some G4's out to hold us over for about a month until the G5's ship out. The G5's would have to be expensive at first to make up for the r&d spent on it but when it's recouped by the summer, Apple can finally get rid of the PowerMac G4 for good and lower the price on the next reincarnation of the G5, and that would allow the LCD iMac to mature with more models and options.
Then the 'one more thing'. 4 new G5 configs in new cases. 1.2, 1.4 and 1.6GHz with 512KB L2 cache. 256 and 512MB RAM options and Super-drives across the board. GeForce3 or maybe the new radeon 8500's as video options and include DDR-SDRAm running at 266MHz with 400MHz system bus. 60-80-100GB HDDs using ATA/133 and the faster firewire will be onboard. They won't be available until Febuary and the prices will be $1999, $2499, $2999 and $3499 for a dual 1.4GHz option.
Now all you naysayers that think Apple wont allow another case to disrupt their perfect little quadrant lineup, consider this: didn't they do the same with the Cube? But where the Cube failed the PowerMac G4 will succeed. Why? Because by using pre-existing designs, they will cut r&d overhead, it will have much more expandability, and use more common parts.
The case against this senario: the iMac. Apple would either have to stick with a G3 for the iMac LCD and price it low ($1000-$1300), put a G4 in it at 1GHz with 133MHz bus with LCD and keep it at $1500 (this would likely mean only one model of imac with DVD/cdrw combo drive) and keep the combo drive out of the PowerMac line. Or they would discontinue the iMac. I think the latter is the less likely senario.
I know this theory has quite a bit of holes but it's a likely transition for the G5. Get some G4's out to hold us over for about a month until the G5's ship out. The G5's would have to be expensive at first to make up for the r&d spent on it but when it's recouped by the summer, Apple can finally get rid of the PowerMac G4 for good and lower the price on the next reincarnation of the G5, and that would allow the LCD iMac to mature with more models and options.
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If it's faster, it's not firewire.
I could see Apple's lineup including G3s, G4s, and G5s, but a ton of people would be disappointed if the G4 was not in the new iMac.
<strong>What do you mean by 'faster firewire'?
If it's faster, it's not firewire.
I could see Apple's lineup including G3s, G4s, and G5s, but a ton of people would be disappointed if the G4 was not in the new iMac.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think the new iMac is going to be the only real hardware announcment at SF.
I have this feeling that Apple will wait with G4 Apolo's. :eek:
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The new ProMac is the Cube with a G5
Steve's revenge!
<strong>Why does everyone think that the Cube cost so much? Apple said it cost very it little ... hello?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I got mine for $1099 w/ $100 rebate - wish I had bought two.
The cube cost so much because Apple charged so much. $1799 for a cube. $1599 for a low end PowerMac. Sure the price dropped later on. Not enough and it was too late.
Then the G5 would just be a little more expensive then current G4s because its a pro power machine. Ah, dunno.
Having a new server/workstation-friendly case for the highest-end model could address a lot of complaints about using Macs as servers. If the G5 arrives it would finally have the muscle to compete in the server market. Likely? No.
Off-the-wall wishful thinking: HyperTransport is supposed to reduce the number of lines between chips. Fewer lines makes it easier to have connectors to daughtercards. Wouldn't it be awfully cool if Apple's new PM motherboard used HT and had sockets for more than one processor (up to 4, maybe?). Their build-to-order store could then allow you to choose how many processors you want, and possibly let you add (or upgrade) them later. Yeah, I know -- pipe dream.
A low end "consumer" tower would be perfect. Price it at 1200, 1500, and they fly off the shelves.
This allows Apple to price the G5 higher and really rake in the dough on it.
As far as expandability goes, most consumers are told they need it in a sales pitch and then don't use it. Gamers do, I do, but we are not the majority of the consumer market, most people just buy and hardly know anything about it and expect it to always work ... very confusing why they buy a Wintel PC with those expectations ...
As far as confusing production lines, none of those people know one PC from another, they pick a brand and a sales man talks them into one verses another, Apple has to stand out so confusing is bad, if they are looking for that they might as well stay with a PC.
Apple needs to be clear, understandable, and out in the open.