Quad G4 or G5?

fran441fran441
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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
[quote]Apollo, which is said to be the new code-name for the chip that was originally tagged 'Goldfish,' is what Apple sources say the company will attempt to base its first series of Quad-Processor Power Mac G4 on. "The goal is to debut a Power Mac Quad G4 running with four 1GHz -- for a total of 4000MHz -- by early 2002," sources said.<hr></blockquote>



Quoted from AppleInsider.



Anyone want one of these?
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  • Reply 1 of 34
    logan calelogan cale Posts: 1,281member
    Yum.
  • Reply 2 of 34
    davegeedavegee Posts: 2,765member
    [quote]Originally posted by Fran441:

    <strong>



    Quoted from AppleInsider.



    Anyone want one of these? </strong><hr></blockquote>



    This couldn't have been what fahre451 was reporting on in another thread now could it?



    <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000359"; target="_blank">http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi? ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=000359</a>



    Also where did you read that it wasn't on the home page?



    Dave



    [ 12-28-2001: Message edited by: DaveGee ]</p>
  • Reply 3 of 34
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    [quote]Also where did you read that it wasn't on the home page?<hr></blockquote>



    It's on the homepage. The article is just old. You can find the article from December 27, 2000 <a href="http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/0012/vger.shtml"; target="_blank">here</a>.
  • Reply 4 of 34
    crusadercrusader Posts: 1,129member
    I would still want a G5.
  • Reply 5 of 34
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    What about Quad G4 vs DUAL G5
  • Reply 6 of 34
    sc_marktsc_markt Posts: 1,402member
    I read the Dec 27, 2000 Appleinsider article on the quad g4's for this Jan '02. I don't think this will happen because it adds more cost and complexity.



    The Dec 27, 2000 article also says that the G4 test units "have begun to pop up in recent weeks leading up to Macworld Expo." Were these test units the ones that were released at the following Macword expo? If the answer is yes, then I believe the G5 will be released this Jan '02 since it has been reported that G5 test boxes are currently being evaluated.



    - Mark
  • Reply 7 of 34
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    Okay, how about both.
  • Reply 8 of 34
    a holcka holck Posts: 20member
    Well, OSX is only capable of running on 2 processors as of 10.1.2, so no quad just yet!
  • Reply 9 of 34
    leonisleonis Posts: 3,427member
    I was thinking that we maybe seeing both G4 and G5 PowerMacs



    G4 will be offer in MP config while the G5 stays in single processor due to the cost and yield....



    But if there's is enough G5 for DP config we don't need G4s
  • Reply 10 of 34
    fran441fran441 Posts: 3,715member
    Why is OS X limited to 2 processors?
  • Reply 11 of 34
    cyberzorncyberzorn Posts: 51member
    [quote]Originally posted by Fran441:

    <strong>Why is OS X limited to 2 processors?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    it's not really limited.. see the current version is compiled to undertand up to 2 processors, a new complile could fix it so a powermac could run more, prob a 10.1.X release -- if it were to happen, which i doubt but-- would love to see =)



    Mike
  • Reply 12 of 34
    strangelovestrangelove Posts: 98member
    as i told you before...this is the real deal...apple eating sgi...not sure about the speed though...heard that it's not gonna be a gig but slightly below...yum yum (eating sgi's business'..)



    oh, forgot that: it's a g4 <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />



    [ 12-29-2001: Message edited by: Strangelove ]</p>
  • Reply 13 of 34
    the mactivistthe mactivist Posts: 129member
    [quote]Originally posted by a holck:

    <strong>Well, OSX is only capable of running on 2 processors as of 10.1.2, so no quad just yet!</strong><hr></blockquote>



    How do you know this? Is there a way to check for myself?
  • Reply 14 of 34
    catalystcatalyst Posts: 226member
    launch terminal and type hostinfo



    it says "Kernel configured for up to 2 processors."
  • Reply 15 of 34
    strangelovestrangelove Posts: 98member
    [quote]it says "Kernel configured for up to 2 processors." <hr></blockquote>



    so what? change a flag when compiling and there you go...
  • Reply 16 of 34
    discstickersdiscstickers Posts: 314member
    Yeah, it shouldn't be hard at all to make a 4 proc. OS X. I don't know why it wouldn't recoginze them already, being fully multithreaded and all.
  • Reply 17 of 34
    kidredkidred Posts: 2,402member
    But would a quad G4 be a waste of time and money? Would the apps have to be re-coded to make use of 4 processors?
  • Reply 18 of 34
    jccbinjccbin Posts: 476member
    The apps rely on the OS for job management as relates to the hardware in OS X. (that's why X is more stable than 9.x - X does not allow apps to directly access hardware in virtually all cases).



    So Carbon and Cocoa apps (as well as the Classic environment itself) would blindly use whatever processing power the OS assigned to them, 1, 2, 4, processors.
  • Reply 19 of 34
    kidredkidred Posts: 2,402member
    Ok, so a quad would run Photoshop and say Appleworks like it should x4. So as then a quad would really be fast system wide? mm, something to think about.



    What about a quad 867 versus a dual 1.2ghz, which would be faster? So all apps in X will take advantage of every ounce of juice a quad could muster up? Wow.
  • Reply 20 of 34
    programmerprogrammer Posts: 3,458member
    A single app will only use more than one processor if it is multi-threaded. It will only use one processor per thread that it creates (maximum). Different apps running at the same time will be spread across the available processors. In general having fewer faster processors is better because there are times when you're going to be waiting on a single thread.
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