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  • Reply 101 of 158
    naplesxnaplesx Posts: 3,743member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by midwinter

    That's cool.



    Can the recording industry and movie industry still parade young girls around in skimpy clothing? What about the movies?



    What about movies that use of-age actors to simulate molestation for the sake of making art? Can Playboy still shoot naked photos of girls who turned 18 the day before? Or do you plan on backing that age requirement up a little to appease the record companies, who really want to show us a 14 year-old diva wearing nothing but a thong.



    Cheers

    Scott




    You are just being silly now.



    Give it up.
  • Reply 102 of 158
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NaplesX

    You are just being silly now.



    Give it up.




    Try to think. Pretty please?
  • Reply 103 of 158
    naplesxnaplesx Posts: 3,743member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by midwinter

    That's cool.



    Can the recording industry and movie industry still parade young girls around in skimpy clothing? What about movies that use of-age actors to simulate molestation for the sake of making art? Can Playboy still shoot naked photos of girls who turned 18 the day before? Or do you plan on backing that age requirement up a little to appease the record companies, who really want to show us a 14 year-old diva wearing nothing but a thong.



    Cheers

    Scott




    Nambla (North American Man/Boy Love Association) ecourages it's members to have sexual relationships with minors.



    ow can you sit there with a straight face and compare that with the recording industry, hollywood, playboy or anything else.



    grow a moral compass will ya.
  • Reply 104 of 158
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NaplesX

    Nambla (North American Man/Boy Love Association) ecourages it's members to have sexual relationships with minors.



    Ok. That's gross and all, but encouraging a thing isn't the same as doing a thing. One is protected by the first amendment. The other is not.



    Quote:

    How can you sit there with a straight face and compare that with the recording industry, hollywood, playboy or anything else.



    Because for the past twenty years, we have watched as female recording artists get younger, sexier, and wear next to nothing. If you don't think this trains the culture to want to have sex with increasingly young girls, you're deluded. And to make this worse, this is a completely culturally sanctioned passive pedophilia.



    Quote:

    grow a moral compass will ya.



    They're overrated, considering what constitutes "moral" keeps changing.



    Cheers

    Scott
  • Reply 105 of 158
    naplesxnaplesx Posts: 3,743member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by midwinter

    Ok. That's gross and all, but encouraging a thing isn't the same as doing a thing. One is protected by the first amendment. The other is not.



    It is called being an accessory in a crime. This organization will be found to be unlawful.
  • Reply 106 of 158
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NaplesX

    It is called being an accessory in a crime. This organization will be found to be unlawful.



    Good job ignoring the rest of my post.
  • Reply 107 of 158
    naplesxnaplesx Posts: 3,743member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by midwinter

    Good job ignoring the rest of my post.



    Thanks, I allready replied to that flawed argument.
  • Reply 108 of 158
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by NaplesX

    Thanks, I allready replied to that flawed argument.



    Must've been such an impressive response that I missed it.
  • Reply 109 of 158
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by midwinter

    The ACLU is committed to the preservation of rights and freedoms guaranteed by the US Constitution.



  • Reply 110 of 158
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Scott









    wonderful retort.







  • Reply 111 of 158
    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    I guess for many the ACLU is sacrosanct. If the ACLU is on the case then it must be a just cause and cannot be questioned.





    I'm still not sure why the Boy Scouts need to be chased out of public places? Care to explain midwinter?
  • Reply 112 of 158
    dmband0026dmband0026 Posts: 2,345member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Scott





    I'm gonna have to agree here...



    That's not at all what the ACLU is about. It's a joke.
  • Reply 113 of 158
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Scott

    I'm still not sure why the Boy Scouts need to be chased out of public places? Care to explain midwinter?



    I don't know for the ACLU, but I'm all for British paramilitary training organizations now effectively run by the Mormons not being allowed to meet in schools.



    I'll look into the ACLU's argument, though.



    Cheers

    Scott
  • Reply 114 of 158
    where's the case scott?



    edit: nm, i found it.



    Apparently the Scouts are a discriminatory association (which is fair) thatm by the law of California (I guess) which states that public property cannot be used by groups that have discriminatory policies, cannot use public property.



    This isnt so much a Bill of Rights issue as it is a civil rights issue and it is apparently California specific. I havent yet decided what i think about this case. But i could easily see this simply as a challenge to test the limit of the law, i mean if the law is indefensible, ie counties can decide randomly whether they consider groups discriminatory, i could see this issue blowing up...
  • Reply 115 of 158
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by billybobsky

    where's the case scott?



    I think Scott's referring to this case, which seems to be about the BSOA being granted all kinds of preferential treatments while at the same time being allowed to discriminate against certain groups who wish to join. This amounts to the state, both de facto and de juro, supporting that discrimination through its clear bias in favor of the BSOA.



    Cheers

    Scott
  • Reply 116 of 158
    crusadercrusader Posts: 1,129member
    The Boy Scouts are run by Mormons? Hmm. Oh well, guess I don't care <uses ex-scout honor>
  • Reply 117 of 158
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Crusader

    The Boy Scouts are run by Mormons? Hmm. Oh well, guess I don't care <uses ex-scout honor>



    The LDS church wields tremendous influence in the BSOA. Here's a story about it (although I don't know anything about its provenance. Anyway. There's lots of info out there about it.



    Cheers

    Scott
  • Reply 118 of 158
    i was a cub scout at some point but i realized that the whole forcing service thing had to go... it wasnt real. etc etc.
  • Reply 119 of 158
    addaboxaddabox Posts: 12,665member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by DMBand0026

    I'm gonna have to agree here...



    That's not at all what the ACLU is about. It's a joke.




    Gosh, you guys have really nailed the persuasive rhetoric. It's like debating Socrates.
  • Reply 120 of 158
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by addabox

    Gosh, you guys have really nailed the persuasive rhetoric. It's like debating Socrates.



    Heh. More likely Thrasymachus.



    Cheers

    Scott
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