The Official George W Bush thread

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  • Reply 21 of 26
    midwintermidwinter Posts: 10,060member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Crusader

    Whom ever has the next coherent plan to put the freaking HMOs in their place, stop the export of American jobs to low contract bidders in India and China, stop the flow of illegals into the county (Hello! Giving them a semi-legal status ain't gonna stop em, more like putting out a Welcome mat...), and somehow get private colleges to bring tuition costs down gets my vote.



    Sounds like you ought to vote for Kucinich.



    Cheers

    Scott
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  • Reply 22 of 26
    artman @_@artman @_@ Posts: 2,546member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by thegelding

    time will tell



    g




    God. That says it all. Doesn't it?



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  • Reply 23 of 26
    andersanders Posts: 6,523member
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    Originally posted by Crusader

    btw: btw: Didn't Truman warn against the Military-Industrial complex? Have we bothered to heed this advice at all???



    Eisenhower (Republican and five star general. In farewell speech. He is up there among my favorite president alone for that remark with that background) and no.
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  • Reply 24 of 26
    buonrottobuonrotto Posts: 6,368member
    slightly off topic:



    What Eisenhower was referring to was a military-industrial complex, like a napoleonic complex, a compulsion or impulse. He didn't mean a physical complex like a base or the Pentagon building.
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  • Reply 25 of 26
    pfflampfflam Posts: 5,053member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by BuonRotto

    slightly off topic:



    What Eisenhower was referring to was a military-industrial complex, like a napoleonic complex, a compulsion or impulse. He didn't mean a physical complex like a base or the Pentagon building.




    If your not joking then you are wrong:



    what Eisenhower meant was the mutually supportive economic and interest based web of industry and military goals that would, due to their manifold interlocking dependancies, create a need for further spending which would then create a need for further military which would create a need for further spending etc etc



    The complex was the Industry and the military and the political lobby and the populace which then became dependant upon outrageous spending and hyped up hype in order to keep the basic civil economy running smoothly:

    what he was describing was a viciouse circle with no single area that could be analyzed: in other words a whole vast complex of inter-dependencies that would grow to encompass all civil life and overshadow even our daily economic exchanges.



    a Rocket state*



    --read Gravity's Rainbow -Thomas Pynchon, for a poetic and masterful take on the rise of new power complex
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