George Bush's proposed 2005 budget cuts funding for veterans' healthcare and public housing. It freezes funding for after-school programs and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families grants. It provides less than one-sixth of the increase needed to close the budget shortfall in the AIDS Drug Assistance Program, which helps low-income HIV patients access medical care and lifesaving drugs. It cuts state Medicaid funding by $1.5 billion.
Yet when it comes to abstinence education, money seems to be no object. Bush's budget recommends $270 million for programs that try to dissuade teenagers from having sex, double the amount spent last year. Much of that money would be given in grants to Christian organizations such as Youth for Christ and to anti-abortion groups operating so-called crisis pregnancy centers, outfits that masquerade as women's health clinics but deliver a strongly anti-abortion message and often medically inaccurate information. It would pay for school programs that teach kids that premarital sex leads to psychological maladies and that sex with condoms is a kind of viral Russian roulette.
George Bush's proposed 2005 budget cuts funding for veterans' healthcare and public housing. It freezes funding for after-school programs ....
Well.. trying to soften the tone here after your near flame in the other thread...
1. I have TWO Head Start employees in my immediate family, and what Bush is trying to do to Head Start is BULLS**T. Completely. Is the program perfect? No. But show me a fed program that is. What is happening to early childhood programs is a disgusting situation to be sure.
2. I live in a town within 50 miles of 4 military bases, with one of the largest VA hospitals in the state. (Casewise) Bush and Hutchison (R-TX-US Sen) are SCREWING veterans left and right. Broken promises are becoming much easier to find than a basic checkup. If this is how the govt handles medical care, I cannot imagine how much the would fsck up a national healthcare system.
Please take a sec, put down the flaming blowtorch and realize that we probably have 75% in common when it comes to opinions on GWB. Libertarians are pist at the Patriot Act and Drug War. Conservatives in the base are pist at huge deficit spending. Liberals just, well, hate him.
Proves one thing: you try to please everyone, you will end up pleasing no one.
Well.. trying to soften the tone here after your near flame in the other thread...
1. I have TWO Head Start employees in my immediate family, and what Bush is trying to do to Head Start is BULLS**T. Completely. Is the program perfect? No. But show me a fed program that is. What is happening to early childhood programs is a disgusting situation to be sure.
2. I live in a town within 50 miles of 4 military bases, with one of the largest VA hospitals in the state. (Casewise) Bush and Hutchison (R-TX-US Sen) are SCREWING veterans left and right. Broken promises are becoming much easier to find than a basic checkup. If this is how the govt handles medical care, I cannot imagine how much the would fsck up a national healthcare system.
Please take a sec, put down the flaming blowtorch and realize that we probably have 75% in common when it comes to opinions on GWB. Libertarians are pist at the Patriot Act and Drug War. Conservatives in the base are pist at huge deficit spending. Liberals just, well, hate him.
Proves one thing: you try to please everyone, you will end up pleasing no one.
Now if only the rest of your replies were as spot on as this one...
Bush's 2005 budget if passed "as is" would entail a 48% increase in overall education spending since 2001. Funding for Title 1 reading programs has increased dramatically since Bush took office. The "Bush hates education" line is a bit old.
Bush's 2005 budget if passed "as is" would entail a 48% increase in overall education spending since 2001. Funding for Title 1 reading programs has increased dramatically since Bush took office. The "Bush hates education" line is a bit old.
Show me the numbers sparky!
Also if you notice... that last post says he's willing to almost triple money for abstinence only education... but that money doesn't go to schools necessarily.
That was a pretty spot on post, but about that last line: are you claiming Bush is trying to please everyone?
Yea, he is. IMHO. He has tried to "play nice" with his political enemies, hoping to win good-will points. Just look at the edu bill.. he cuddled up to Ted Kennedy and WHAM! - The conservatives are unhappy about the pricetag and then Kennedy rips him the week after for not going far enough.
I am sure someone who really cared could get the actual numbers, but it seems to me that GWB has outspent Clinton in many areas. This REALLY gets the conservative-libertarian base in a quandry. Four more for GWB= more govt spending (Bad) and four years of Kerry/Edwards = more govt spending (Bad). Its Catch-22 (Five-Trillion) There's trouble in paradise. GWB is off the reservation with the conservatives that got him where he is.
Libertarians are pist at the Patriot Act and Drug War. Conservatives in the base are pist at huge deficit spending. Liberals just, well, hate him.
Proves one thing: you try to please everyone, you will end up pleasing no one.
I think Jubelum meant DUHbya is trying to please everyone the likes of Halliburton, Bechtel, Diebold, Enron,Clear Channel etc. He's done a GREAT job at that.
It's not just DUHbya. It's all the radical idiots around him too. I feel sick when I'm reminded I voted for him.
I think Jubelum meant DUHbya is trying to please everyone the likes of Halliburton, Bechtel, Diebold, Enron,Clear Channel etc. He's done a GREAT job at that.
It's not just DUHbya. It's all the radical idiots around him too. I feel sick when I'm reminded I voted for him.
Actually, I do mean that he has at least tried to gain goodwill with people who hate him (see my example). The proof of this is in the conservative base- it is not energized right now for Bush- and why? Because he has been taking on parts of the dem's platform. (Prescription drugs, etc)
Also if you notice... that last post says he's willing to almost triple money for abstinence only education... but that money doesn't go to schools necessarily.
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This is education related...
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/20...nce/index.html
George Bush's proposed 2005 budget cuts funding for veterans' healthcare and public housing. It freezes funding for after-school programs and Temporary Assistance for Needy Families grants. It provides less than one-sixth of the increase needed to close the budget shortfall in the AIDS Drug Assistance Program, which helps low-income HIV patients access medical care and lifesaving drugs. It cuts state Medicaid funding by $1.5 billion.
Yet when it comes to abstinence education, money seems to be no object. Bush's budget recommends $270 million for programs that try to dissuade teenagers from having sex, double the amount spent last year. Much of that money would be given in grants to Christian organizations such as Youth for Christ and to anti-abortion groups operating so-called crisis pregnancy centers, outfits that masquerade as women's health clinics but deliver a strongly anti-abortion message and often medically inaccurate information. It would pay for school programs that teach kids that premarital sex leads to psychological maladies and that sex with condoms is a kind of viral Russian roulette.
Originally posted by chu_bakka
George Bush's proposed 2005 budget cuts funding for veterans' healthcare and public housing. It freezes funding for after-school programs ....
Well.. trying to soften the tone here after your near flame in the other thread...
1. I have TWO Head Start employees in my immediate family, and what Bush is trying to do to Head Start is BULLS**T. Completely. Is the program perfect? No. But show me a fed program that is. What is happening to early childhood programs is a disgusting situation to be sure.
2. I live in a town within 50 miles of 4 military bases, with one of the largest VA hospitals in the state. (Casewise) Bush and Hutchison (R-TX-US Sen) are SCREWING veterans left and right. Broken promises are becoming much easier to find than a basic checkup. If this is how the govt handles medical care, I cannot imagine how much the would fsck up a national healthcare system.
Please take a sec, put down the flaming blowtorch and realize that we probably have 75% in common when it comes to opinions on GWB. Libertarians are pist at the Patriot Act and Drug War. Conservatives in the base are pist at huge deficit spending. Liberals just, well, hate him.
Proves one thing: you try to please everyone, you will end up pleasing no one.
Originally posted by Jubelum
Well.. trying to soften the tone here after your near flame in the other thread...
1. I have TWO Head Start employees in my immediate family, and what Bush is trying to do to Head Start is BULLS**T. Completely. Is the program perfect? No. But show me a fed program that is. What is happening to early childhood programs is a disgusting situation to be sure.
2. I live in a town within 50 miles of 4 military bases, with one of the largest VA hospitals in the state. (Casewise) Bush and Hutchison (R-TX-US Sen) are SCREWING veterans left and right. Broken promises are becoming much easier to find than a basic checkup. If this is how the govt handles medical care, I cannot imagine how much the would fsck up a national healthcare system.
Please take a sec, put down the flaming blowtorch and realize that we probably have 75% in common when it comes to opinions on GWB. Libertarians are pist at the Patriot Act and Drug War. Conservatives in the base are pist at huge deficit spending. Liberals just, well, hate him.
Proves one thing: you try to please everyone, you will end up pleasing no one.
Now if only the rest of your replies were as spot on as this one...
Originally posted by Jubelum
Proves one thing: you try to please everyone, you will end up pleasing no one.
That was a pretty spot on post, but about that last line: are you claiming Bush is trying to please everyone?
Bush's 2005 budget if passed "as is" would entail a 48% increase in overall education spending since 2001. Funding for Title 1 reading programs has increased dramatically since Bush took office. The "Bush hates education" line is a bit old.
Originally posted by SDW2001
chu_bakka,
Bush's 2005 budget if passed "as is" would entail a 48% increase in overall education spending since 2001. Funding for Title 1 reading programs has increased dramatically since Bush took office. The "Bush hates education" line is a bit old.
Show me the numbers sparky!
Also if you notice... that last post says he's willing to almost triple money for abstinence only education... but that money doesn't go to schools necessarily.
Originally posted by stupider...likeafox
That was a pretty spot on post, but about that last line: are you claiming Bush is trying to please everyone?
Yea, he is. IMHO. He has tried to "play nice" with his political enemies, hoping to win good-will points. Just look at the edu bill.. he cuddled up to Ted Kennedy and WHAM! - The conservatives are unhappy about the pricetag and then Kennedy rips him the week after for not going far enough.
I am sure someone who really cared could get the actual numbers, but it seems to me that GWB has outspent Clinton in many areas. This REALLY gets the conservative-libertarian base in a quandry. Four more for GWB= more govt spending (Bad) and four years of Kerry/Edwards = more govt spending (Bad). Its Catch-22 (Five-Trillion) There's trouble in paradise. GWB is off the reservation with the conservatives that got him where he is.
Originally posted by Jubelum
Libertarians are pist at the Patriot Act and Drug War. Conservatives in the base are pist at huge deficit spending. Liberals just, well, hate him.
Proves one thing: you try to please everyone, you will end up pleasing no one.
I think Jubelum meant DUHbya is trying to please everyone the likes of Halliburton, Bechtel, Diebold, Enron,Clear Channel etc. He's done a GREAT job at that.
It's not just DUHbya. It's all the radical idiots around him too. I feel sick when I'm reminded I voted for him.
Originally posted by Gilsch
I think Jubelum meant DUHbya is trying to please everyone the likes of Halliburton, Bechtel, Diebold, Enron,Clear Channel etc. He's done a GREAT job at that.
It's not just DUHbya. It's all the radical idiots around him too. I feel sick when I'm reminded I voted for him.
Actually, I do mean that he has at least tried to gain goodwill with people who hate him (see my example). The proof of this is in the conservative base- it is not energized right now for Bush- and why? Because he has been taking on parts of the dem's platform. (Prescription drugs, etc)
Prescription drug coverage but no attempts to control the costs of drugs.THe bill benefits the drug and healthcare companies more than anything.
Originally posted by chu_bakka
Show me the numbers sparky!
Also if you notice... that last post says he's willing to almost triple money for abstinence only education... but that money doesn't go to schools necessarily.
Go look up the numbers yourself. I'm not lying.
Originally posted by chu_bakka
Don't forget it's Bush who makes the budget... and the republicans that add the pork. Lots of Corporate and Defense Pork.
I believe you meant to say CONGRESS adds the pork. Right? Three words: Line Item Veto.
Bush could always veto the whole budget and send them back to rework it.
When I provide numbers I provide quotes or links.
Or did you just read it somewhere and don't remember?
2001:
http://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d01/dt363.asp
Total: $36.7 B
2005 Proposed Budget: $66.4 B
http://www.ed.gov/about/overview/bud...-section1.html
My bad...it's only 45%. Geez...I guess you win.
Bush is spending money like a drunken sailor on education, and it's still not enough. 45% in four years? Are you shitting me?