Eminem's publisher sues Apple

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"DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- Rapper Eminem's music publisher is suing Apple Computer Inc., claiming the company used one of the hip-hop superstar's songs in a television advertisement without permission. "



Someone has not been playing nice with others.

Remember what Steve says: "Don't Steal Music"
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  • Reply 1 of 50
    paulpaul Posts: 5,278member
    what song?
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    scottscott Posts: 7,431member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Paul

    what song?



    CNN Article HERE
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  • Reply 3 of 50
    Is it illegal for someone to sing lyrics from Eminem's song on a commercial?



    I wonder if 50¢ allowed for that cell phone commercial to air?
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    defiantdefiant Posts: 4,876member
    It was the ad where a young kid, Jacob, listens to his iPod and sings the song he's listening to. White background, switch-ads style.



    The Associated Press
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  • Reply 5 of 50
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
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    Originally posted by Messiahtosh

    Is it illegal for someone to sing lyrics from Eminem's song on a commercial?



    Yup. That counts as publication.



    Welcome to music licensing.



    Quote:

    I wonder if 50¢ allowed for that cell phone commercial to air?



    Most likely. It looks like Steve dropped the ball here by not getting permission before airing the commercial. It doesn't appear to be helping matters that Eminem is being a greedy cuss, but still: All covers and public performances and publications and what-have-you are asked for and paid for.
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    crusadercrusader Posts: 1,129member
    Wow. The music industry seems to be filled with wack-jobs. These people are friggin nuts about licensing. Whatever happened to "free-advertising" for your song if it was featured in a commercial?
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  • Reply 7 of 50
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
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    Originally posted by Crusader

    Wow. The music industry seems to be filled with wack-jobs. These people are friggin nuts about licensing. Whatever happened to "free-advertising" for your song if it was featured in a commercial?







    Sorry, I'm not laughing at you, it's just that your question is so completely alien to the way things actually are.



    There are actually companies that exist, more or less, to get artists play in commercials and movies and TV shows. There's decent money in it, if you're lucky. This is how Moby got started.



    See http://www.taxi.com/ for instance. They help place unsigned bands.



    But the point is that "free" is a foreign concept in this business.
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    rokrok Posts: 3,519member
    ...but why did it take them so long to pitch a fit? seems like that ad was on ages ago, and even at that, it unfortunately saw little air time compared to some of the more forgettable, pathetic renditions of songs.
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  • Reply 9 of 50
    Quote:

    Originally posted by Paul

    what song?



    what? who is emi-bloody-nem?
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  • Reply 10 of 50
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    Originally posted by Amorph



    ...



    But the point is that "free" is a foreign concept in this business.




    yes and this business is an alien concept too.

    but ... bottom line ... you're right.
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  • Reply 11 of 50
    brussellbrussell Posts: 9,812member
    Seems like they have a good case against Apple. It definitely seems like a no-no if they didn't get permission first. You could easily make a case that they were using his music to sell iPods. I wonder what Apple was thinking? It really wasn't a parody. Hmmm...
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  • Reply 12 of 50
    grr.... and i was jsut about to buy some eminem songs...
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  • Reply 13 of 50
    guestguest Posts: 112member
    Eminem? Never heard of him. He's a rapper, just tell him his song was "sampled". Problem solved.
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  • Reply 14 of 50
    guest,





    re: thread, I saw a blurb on MTV about this and it said that eminem actually hadn't copy protected the song until after the commercial was made, but I think that the commercial itself aired after they did copyright the material. I think there was a 1 or 2 month difference.



    So, they may not really have quite a strong case...



    as for 50 cent, I'm sure he gave permission, it's called cashing in, selling out, getting dollars, supporting yourself in the music business, some people think it's shameful, personally, I think it's fine, record sales barely pay artists anything these days, it's all about touring and endorsements.
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  • Reply 14 of 50
    johnqjohnq Posts: 2,763member
    Quote:

    Originally posted by guest

    Eminem? Never heard of him. He's a rapper, just tell him his song was "sampled". Problem solved.



    Actually Jacob was reciting a poem. Each word was a sentence. That the entire poem is identical to Eminem's song is purely coincidental.



    Can I work for Apple Legal now?



    Quote:

    "Look, if you had one shot, one opportunity

    To seize everything you ever wanted?one moment

    Would you capture it or just let it slip?



    His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy

    There?s vomit on his sweater already, mom?s spaghetti

    He?s nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready

    To drop bombs, but he keeps on forgettin

    What he wrote down, the whole crowd goes so loud

    He opens his mouth, but the words won?t come out

    He?s chokin, how everybody?s jokin now

    The clock?s run out, time?s up over, bloah!

    Snap back to reality, oh there goes gravity

    Oh, there goes rabbit, he choked"



    Hey, isn't this song about Gil Amelio??? Or Steve Jobs?



    I noticed the ad was quietly yanked relative to the others, but I had actually assumed it was from pressure from parent or religious etc. for "aligning themselves with Eminem" or somesuch.



    Now we know its because they didn't cough up the royalty.



    Oh well, they paid off Apple Records enough over the years, what's 10 million more?
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  • Reply 16 of 50
    Quote:

    Originally posted by johnq

    Actually Jacob was reciting a poem. Each word was a sentence. That the entire poem is identical to Eminem's song is purely coincidental.



    Can I work for Apple Legal now?









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  • Reply 17 of 50
    amorphamorph Posts: 7,112member
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    Originally posted by Wrong Robot

    guest,





    re: thread, I saw a blurb on MTV about this and it said that eminem actually hadn't copy protected the song until after the commercial was made, but I think that the commercial itself aired after they did copyright the material. I think there was a 1 or 2 month difference.




    Since 1976, material is automatically protected by copyright at the moment of creation in the US and in the EU, and anywhere else where the government has adopted the stance of the WIPO.



    If Eminem has a song written out in his notebook that nobody else has ever seen, the lyrics to that song are protected by copyright. No action on his part, or on anyone's part, is required. People do still submit works to the Library of Congress so that there's some fairly solid proof of authorship in case of a dispute, but the law does not require this. It's an optional precaution.



    Unless someone dropped the ball in a truly spectacular way, this is a licensing issue.
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  • Reply 18 of 50
    baumanbauman Posts: 1,248member
    Does anyone have a link to the commercial?
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  • Reply 19 of 50
    Blame it on the Ad agency... Which knuckle Head, signed off on the concept any way...



    Let it Bee.. oh no thats going to cost me...
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